* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] HELLO, CHINO HILLS. WELCOME TO THE VALENTINE'S DAY EDITION OF THE CHINO HILLS CITY COUNCIL. [ 7:00 P.M. - CONVENE MEETING / ROLL CALL] , YOU ARE THE BRAVE ONES TO SHOW UP TONIGHT. OUR SPOUSES ARE LOOKING AT US AT HOME, GOING, WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE AREN'T, WHERE AREN'T YOU HOME? WHERE, WHERE AREN'T WE OUT TO DINNER? BUT WELCOME TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING. ROLL CALL PLEASE. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT. IF YOU WOULD, [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG] UH, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US WITH TWO ITEMS. ONE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ART BENNETT, AND IN THE INVOCATION LED BY CHAPLAIN HARRY AGUIRE AGUILAR OF THE CHINO VALLEY INDEPENDENT FIRE DISTRICT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AS A VERY PROUD VIETNAM VETERAN, I CAN ASK YOU TO PLACE YOUR HAND ON YOUR HEART AND JOIN WITH ME IN THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG FOR THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. READY? BEGIN PLEDGE. I PLEDGE. PLEDGE PLEASE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LITERACY AND JUSTICE FOR HELP. THANK YOU, ART. THANK YOU. [ INVOCATION: Chaplain Henry Aguilar, Chino Valley Independent Fire District] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. LET US PRAY. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, LORD JESUS, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, FATHER, AND WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU WOULD MEET US HERE, THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THIS CHINO HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING LORD, AND BLESS THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MEMBERS, LORD AND THE CITY COUNCIL. FATHER, I PRAY BLESSINGS UPON OUR POLICE AND FIRE. AND LORD, I ASK THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. AND FATHER, FOR THESE BEAUTIFUL MEN AND WOMEN, FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD FILL OUR HEARTS WITH YOUR AGAPI. LOVE THAT WE WOULD SHARE IT WITH ONE ANOTHER. WE PRAY THIS IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. THE [4. RECOGNITION - Recognition of 2022 Photo Contest Winners] FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PRESENTATIONS. RECOGNIZING THE 2022 PHOTO CO CONTEST WINNERS, VANESSA BEZA WILL JOIN THE MAYOR AT THE PODIUM TO ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, CHERYL. WELCOME, VANESSA. IN 2017, WE HELD OUR FIRST ANNUAL PHOTO CONTEST, AND EACH YEAR THE CONTEST HAS GROWN, UH, AS A WAY OF FOR RESIDENTS TO SHARE THE PRIDE OF OUR CITY. IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SHOW OFF THEIR SKILLS, UH, AND WE SURE HAVE A LOT OF TALENTED INDIVIDUALS IN CHINO HILLS. I'M GOING TO ENLIST VANESSA HERE TO HELP US, UH, ANNOUNCE OUR WINNERS. BUT FIRST, ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR WINNERS. SO CONGRATULATIONS TONIGHT. WE HAVE A GIFT CARD AND A CERTIFICATE FROM EACH OF, FOR EACH FROM THE CITY, FOR EACH OF YOU, AS WELL AS CERTIFICATES FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HELP PRESENT THE CERTIFICATES. AND TELL US MORE IS VANESSA SETH, WELCOME. THANK YOU. UM, SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT SUBMITTED PHOTOS FOR THIS CONTEST. UM, WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT ENTRIES, AND SO THE COMPETITION WAS REALLY TOUGH. AND SO WE ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR JUDGES WHO HAD THE CHALLENGING TASK OF JUDGING THIS CONTEST, UM, WHICH INCLUDED MAYOR PETER ROGERS HERE. UM, SO ALL OF OUR, AS FAR AS THE PRIZES, UM, ALL OF OUR WINNERS ARE GONNA RECEIVE GIFT CARDS FROM THE SHOPS. UM, OUR THIRD PLACE WINNERS ARE RECEIVING A $50 GIFT CARD. THE SECOND PLACE WINNERS ARE RECEIVING A $75 GIFT CARD. FIRST PLACE, UH, GETS A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THE GRAND PRIZE WINNER GETS $250 TO THE SHOPS. MM-HMM. , SO GREAT PRIZES TO GIVE AWAY. UM, I'M GONNA CALL EACH WINNER UP INDIVIDUALLY. UM, AND WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE STAY UP HERE SO THAT WE CAN GET A GROUP PHOTO AT THE END. UM, UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL OF OUR WINNERS COULD BE HERE TONIGHT DUE TO WORK VALENTINE'S DAY AND SICKNESS. SO, SO WE'LL SEE WHO WE HAVE HERE. . SO IN THE ANIMALS CATEGORY, IN THIRD PLACE, WE HAVE AMBER GAONA. AMBER, COME ON UP. CONGRATULATIONS. THAT'S EXCITING. AMBER. PETER. AMBER, CONGRATULATIONS. IN SECOND PLACE, WE HAVE SHERRY SCHMIDT, SCHMIDT, SHERRY. SHE'S, SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY. AND IN FIRST PLACE IN THE ANIMALS CATEGORY, WE HAVE SUSAN DUNHAM. [00:05:01] DON'T WE USUALLY HAVE THOSE ON THE SCREEN? NOT, NOT THIS TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE CATEGORY. IN THIRD PLACE AGAIN, WE HAD SHERRY SCHMIDT. IN SECOND PLACE, WE HAD ELLIE SHAVA, CLAUDE FILTER, YOUR NEIGHBOR. THERE YOU GO. AND IN FIRST PLACE WE HAVE JOHN CLAUDE FELT. SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A HUSBAND AND WIFE, LITTLE. IT'S VALENTINE DAY BACK. WE'LL DO A PHOTO. THANK YOU. ALSO, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS BEFORE, NONE OF THESE WINNERS KNOW WHAT PLACE THEY GET. SO THEY'RE FIGHTING OUT RIGHT NOW, . SO THIS IS EXCITING STUFF. UM, IN THE HOMETOWN PRIDE CATEGORY, IN THIRD PLACE, WE HAVE JOY MILLER. IN SECOND PLACE, WE HAVE RONNIE PALOS. RONNIE, CONGRATULATIONS. AND ONCE AGAIN, IN FIRST PLACE, WE HAVE JOHN CLAUDE FELT . OH, YES. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS YEAR'S GRAND PRIZE WINNER WAS IN THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE CATEGORY, AND JAMIE DS WAS OUR WINNER FOR THAT CATEGORY. UNFORTUNATELY, JAMIE I KNOW, IS NOT HERE TODAY. NO. SO I HAVEN'T SEEN SOME OF JAMIE'S WORK ON, UH, HIKING. OH, HAVE YOU? YEAH. AWESOME. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT PHOTO. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, I KNOW ALL OF OUR WINNING ARTISTS WEREN'T HERE TONIGHT, SO WE ALSO HAVE, UH, NEXT WEEK WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR PHOTOGRAPHER'S, UM, RECEPTION AND ART SHOW. THAT WILL BE ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD FROM SIX 30 TO 7:30 PM SO YOU CAN COME ON OUT. UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL OF THE WINNING CANVASES OF, UM, PRINTED ON CANVASES, AND THEY'LL BE HANGING IN THE LOBBY AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THEN WE HAVE A BUNCH OF HONORABLE MENTIONS THAT WILL ALSO BE UP AS WELL. SO COME ON OUT AND MEET THE ARTISTS. SO, THANK YOU. VANESSA DID AN AWESOME JOB OF COORDINATING EVERYTHING. IT WAS SO ORGANIZED WHEN WE SHOWED UP TO JUDGE, SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'RE, THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. OUR NEXT PRESENTATION [6. PROCLAMATION - Proclaiming February as Black History Month] WILL BE A PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING FEBRUARY AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH TO BE ACCEPTED BY AYALA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN THE MAYOR AT THE PODIUM? ANYBODY FROM HERE? FROM ILA HIGH TO REPRESENT? OH, HERE WE GO. IF YOU COME ON DOWN, YOU CAN COME ON OVER HERE. WE'LL, UH, WE'LL DO A GROUP SHOT IN A FEW MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. EACH YEAR, BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS OBSERVED IN FEBRUARY PRINCIPLE YARD. BOY, COME ON OVER. ALSO, IN 1926, DR. CARTER WOODSON BEGAN THE ANNUAL OBSER OBSERVANCE TO HELP RECTIFY THE MISSION OF AMERICAN AFRICAN MEMBERS FROM HISTORY BOOKS. IN 1976, THE WEEKLONG COMMEMORATION WAS EXPANDED TO ONE MONTH AND IS NOW RECOGNIZED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. DURING THIS MONTH, WE CELEBRATE THE ACHIEVEMENT OF BLACK AMERICANS IN EVERY FIELD, FROM SCIENCE TO THE ARTS, TO POLITICS AND RELIGION. WE ARE PROUD OF OUR CITY'S DIVERSITY AND ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO USE THIS TIME TO BECOME MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT BLACK HERITAGE AND TO HONOR THE MANY BLACK LEADERS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR NATION'S PROGRESS. [00:10:02] TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION, WE HAVE AYALA HIGH SCHOOL, BLACK STUDENT UNION. WELCOME, FIRST OF ALL, AND, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? PRINCIPAL? YA BOY, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAYBE AN INDIVIDUAL STEP UP, UH, TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH. . ALL RIGHT. WHO WANTS TO DO THE OLD, UH, NO, I THINK I HAVE, I HAVE THE FOLLOWING , I HAVE THE FOLLOWING BAKER, LAST NAME. BAKER. TELL WHY I MENTIONED YOUR NAME. STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME, WHERE YOU GOING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IDENTIFIER, WHO YOU ARE? I'M DOMINIC BAKER. AND WHAT IS IT? AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GONNA SAY A FEW WORDS, DID YOU? NO, NOT, NO. OKAY. , UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED? I'M GETTING THIS AWARD BECAUSE I GOT A SCHOLARSHIP FOR $10,000 AT A, UH, COLLEGE EXPO IN LA CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY. YOU'RE ALL GONNA, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ALL GONNA BE SAYING A FEW WORDS. . UM, I'M ROCHELLE PANARI, AND I ALSO DID GET $10,000 FOR, UH, COLLEGE AT COLLEGE EXPO. AND I PLAN TO GO TO AN H B C U, WHICH IS A HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGE. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE A STUDENT, HIS NAME IS JAYDEN SMITH. HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT HE GOT ACCEPTED INTO A COLLEGE NAMED VOORHEES UNIVERSITY INSIDE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND I ALSO HAVE A CERTIFICATE THAT LET'S HAVE THE, THE TWO OF YOU SINCE YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO COME TO. I KNOW, I KNOW. . I'M GONNA PRESENT TO BOTH OF YOU AND ON BEHALF OF YOUR WHOLE GROUP PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK BLACK HISTORY MONTH. ALL RIGHT? RIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY, GO FOR IT. OH, NO, SHE'S THE PRESIDENT. OH, HI, . SORRY I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. UM, THIS MEANS ACTUALLY A LOT BECAUSE, UM, GROWING UP IT WAS VERY HARD. AND TO GET NOTICED BY SUCH A LOVING COMMUNITY IS LIKE A LOT. YEAH. YEAH. IT MEANS A LOT. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST VERY NERVOUS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. BUT YES, MY NAME IS LAIA EPS AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF BSU. AND, UM, THANK YOU. YEAH, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I DID IT. PARENTS, CHRIS CAN COME UP CLOSER. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE WAY BACK. OH, YOU PARENTS? YEAH. COME ON, COME ON, COME ON. EMBARRASS HIM. EVEN MORE PHOTOS. THANK. HI DIANA. HI. YEAH. NEXT, [5. PROCLAMATION - Lunar New Year] WE HAVE A PRO PROCLAMATION FOR LUNAR NEW YEAR TO BE ACCEPTED BY AYALA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN? MAYOR, COME ON. COME ON DOWN. THEY'RE GONNA, AREN'T THEY GONNA DO? COME ON DOWN FIRST. THEY CAN COME HERE AND THEN THEY'LL DO, THEY'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE PERFORMANCE RIGHT AFTER WE DO A LITTLE FEW INTRODUCTIONS. I'M GONNA GO DOWN THERE AND VIDEO. GO AHEAD. I'M GONNA GO DOWN THERE. AND VIDEO. LUNAR NEW YEAR IS A TI TIME OF JOY AND RENEWAL THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY CELEBRATED BY MILLIONS OF ASIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS OF CHINESE, KOREAN, SINGAPOREAN, AND VIETNAMESE DESCENTS. YOU GUYS LOOK GREAT, BY THE WAY. LUNAR NEW YEAR TYPICALLY FALLS SOMETIME BETWEEN JANUARY 21ST AND FEBRUARY 20TH. AND THIS YEAR THE LUNAR NEW YEAR, YEAR FELL ON JANUARY 22ND. ON THAT SPECIAL DAY, FAMILIES CELEBRATE AND PREPARE FOR THE ARRIVAL OF A GOOD A YEAR OF GOOD HEALTH [00:15:01] AND PROSPERITY. THE CHINESE LUNAR CALENDAR IS MADE UP OF A CYCLE OF 12 YEARS, EACH OF THEM BEING NAMED AFTER ONE OF 12 CHINESE ZODIAC ANIMALS. THIS YEAR MARKS THE YEAR OF THE RABBIT. TODAY WE COMMEMORATE LUNAR NEW YEAR AND WISH GOOD FORTUNE, HEALTH, LONGEVITY, AND HAPPINESS TO EVERYONE CELEBRATING THE YEAR OF THE RABBIT. JOIN US TONIGHT IN ACCEPTING FOR ACCEPTING THIS PROCLAMATION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND, UH, ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION? SAY A FEW WORDS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PERFORMANCE. TELL US WHO YOU ARE. HI. UM, HELLO GUYS. UH, I AM THE CAPTAIN OF THE LION DANCE TEAM IN, UM, CHINESE CLUB IN AYALA. SO, UM, WE'RE THE STUDENT FROM AYALA CHINESE CLUB, AND OUR CLUB HAS ESTABLISHED FOR NINE YEARS. AND THIS CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT THE HELP FROM OUR MANDARIN TEACHER AND OUR CLUB ADVISOR IN SCHOOL. WE HAVE PERFORMED NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF PERFORMANCE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE PERFORMANCE TEAM IN OUR CLUB, WHICH ARE LINE DANCE, CHINESE FOLK DANCE, CHINESE TRADITIONAL INSTRUMENT, CHINESE YOYO AND CHOIR. IT'S OUR, IT IS OUR HONOR TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO PERFORM TWO OF OUR PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS OUR LINE DANCE AND CHINESE FOLK DANCE TO YOU GUYS TODAY. UM, NOW I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR MEMBER OF THE LINE DANCE TEAM AND THE FOLK, FOLK DANCE TEAM. SO FOR, FOR LINE DANCE, UH, WE HAVE KELLY, JOHN, LUKE, JOHN KAIN, TOKU MASU, CONNIE LONG, GARY LONG, ALEX NA, PALM, CHRISTINE HALL, HOWARD CHEN, AND GABRIEL JOHN. AND FOR OUR CHINESE FOLK DANCE TEAM, WE HAVE EMILY, LEE, RE, JUAN, JENNY, SH, AND , AND YEAH, ANNA, UH, THANK YOU GUYS AND I WISH YOU GUYS WILL ENJOY THE PERFORMANCE TODAY. ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS WE'RE GONNA DO A GROUP PHOTO FIRST INSTEAD OF, UH, THE DANCE FIRST. AND WE'LL DO THE DANCE AT THE VERY END. OKAY. WOULD YOU GUYS BE ABLE TO GO INTO, UH, TWO LINES? WE'LL DO ONE RIGHT HERE WITH THE CITY CAMERA FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL THE PARENTS TAKE THEIR PHOTOS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF YOU WISH YOU, IS THAT YOU MY IS DOING REALLY WELL, [00:22:57] THANK, [00:25:23] WANNA THANK ALL THE STUDENTS FROM CHINO HILLS HIGH, THE CHINESE CLUB. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S OUR A HIGH, SORRY, UHOH UHOH, MAN, LET ME TAKE THAT BACK A HIGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, IF ANYBODY WISHES TO LEAVE, NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO LEAVE . WE'RE GONNA JUMP INTO, UH, SOME BUSINESS NOW, SOME CITY BUSINESS. ALL RIGHT, [ ANNOUNCEMENT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION] NEXT IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION. THERE WAS NO REPORTABLE ACTION TAKEN THIS EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK. NEXT WE'LL [7. PUBLIC COMMENTS: At this time members of the public may address the City Council regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Council, whether or not the item appears on the agenda, except testimony on Public Hearing items must be provided during those hearings. Please complete and submit to the City Clerk a "Request to Speak" card. Comments will be limited to three minutes per speaker.] MOVE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. YES. AT THIS TIME, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEMS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE COUNCIL, WHETHER OR NOT THE ITEM APPEARS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT TESTIMONY ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, WHICH MUST BE PRESENTED DURING THOSE HEARINGS. PLEASE COMPLETE AND SUBMIT TO THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK A REQUEST, A SPEAK CARD. COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS ERIC JOHNSON. WELCOME, ERIC. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I'M ERIC JOHNSON FROM THE CARBON CANYON FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, AND HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN. THE CARBON CANYON FIRE SAFE COUNCIL INCLUDES THE CITIES OF CHINO HILLS AND BREA. WE WORK WITH CHINO VALLEY FIRE, BREA FIRE, CAL FIRE. THE CITIES OF CHINO HILL AND BREA WE'RE LOCATED IN, OR, AS YOU KNOW, SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY AND ORANGE COUNTY. WE WERE FORMED TO EDUCATE AND ENCOURAGE CARBON CANYON RESIDENTS TO PREPARE FOR WILDFIRES. THIS PLAN IS THE FIVE YEAR UPDATE OF PREVIOUS PLANS TO IDENTIFY AND PRIORITIZE FIRE SAFETY ISSUES IN THE CANYON, INCLUDING CREATING FIRE SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, DISASTER COMMUNICATIONS, AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT. THIS INCLUDES RECENT FUNDING FROM SUPERVISOR HAGMAN AND THE CITY OF TUNA HILLS TO REMOVE NON-NATIVE VEGETATION IN THE CANYON. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU MAYOR ROGERS FOR YOUR HELP WITH THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. THE SIGNATURES FROM THE VARIOUS AGENCIES ARE NEEDED FOR US TO FILE THE PLAN WITH THE STATE. THIS WILL HELP US AS WE APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS THAT I MENTIONED. SO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT, YOUR SUPPORT AND SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE AROUND FOR DURING CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COOL. THANK YOU FOR CHECKING IN. NEXT WE HAVE CHRISTINE CHARLAND. GOOD EVENING. UH, CHRISTINE CHARLAND FROM POMONA VALLEY, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. SO, AND MR. JEFF VACA, UM, CITIZEN OF CHINO HILLS AND BOARD OF DIRECTOR. UH, WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, SAY THANK YOU. UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRESS THAT'S GOING ON ON FAIRWAY BOULEVARD ARE TWO HOUSES THAT WE ARE BUILDING FOR, UH, TWO VETERAN FAMILIES. UH, WE ARE STILL IN THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THOSE, UM, HOMEOWNERS AND, BUT WE ARE CLOSE TO HAVING THOSE NAMES. AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, GIVING AN UPDATE ON THAT PROBABLY SOMETIME IN MARCH. UH, WE EX WE, IF YOU DRIVE BY FAIRWAY BOULEVARD, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND, UH, DIRT MOVING, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE RETAINING WALLS GOING IN AND, UH, COMPACTION HAPPENING AND SOILS APPROVALS HAPPENING, AND ALL THE GOOD STUFF THAT THAT GOES ON RIGHT BEFORE WE HAVE TO EVEN LAY A FOUNDATION. SO, JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. WE EXPECT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCEPT VOLUNTEERS, UH, SOMETIME IN APRIL. UH, WE DO DO THE SKILLED, UM, MACHINERY WHEN WE HAVE THE BIG STUFF. UH, WE, WE KEEP THAT FOR THE SKILLED PEOPLE AND KEEP VOLUNTEERS AWAY, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED, UM, ASSISTANCE IN OUR ONGOING FUNDRAISING FOR THAT PROJECT. UH, WE ARE A NONPROFIT, SO ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT CAN GO TO WW HABITAT PB.ORG AND MAKE A MONETARY CONTRIBUTION TO THE SUCCESS OF THAT PROJECT. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE [00:30:01] OF THE GENEROSITY OF OTHERS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BUILD. AND SO WE THANK EVERYBODY, ALL OF, UH, CHINO HILLS AND THE RESIDENTS, UH, TO, UH, ALLOWING US TO SERVE, UH, IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND BUILD, UH, TWO AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THESE, THESE FAMILIES THAT ARE, MAY BE ABLE TO START AND LIVE THE DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR ALLOWING US TO SERVE HERE IN CHINO HILLS. THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE EVENING. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. NEXT WE HAVE SUZETTE. DANG. WELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR ROGERS. HELLO SU IS MAYOR MORAN, COUNCIL MEMBER CITY STAFF AND AUDIENCE MEMBERS SUZETTE DING WITH YOUR FOURTH DISTRICT COUNTY SUPERVISOR, KURT HAGMAN'S OFFICE. UH, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR ALL OF OUR PHOTO CONTEST WINNERS TONIGHT, SUPERVISOR HAGMAN'S. NEXT DOCUMENTS WRITING EVENT WILL BE ON SATURDAY, MARCH 11TH AT THE MONTCLAIR CITY HALL PARKING LOT, LOCATED 5 1 11 BENITO STREET IN MONTCLAIR. TIME WILL BE BETWEEN 9:00 AM TO 12:00 PM OR UNTIL THE SHREDDING TRUCK REACHES CAPACITY. IT IS LIMITED TO THREE STANDARDIZED FILING BOXES PER VEHICLE. THIS WILL BE A DRIVE-THROUGH EVENT, AND IT IS FREE FOR ALL SANMAR BERNARDINO COUNTY RESIDENTS. WE DO, UM, STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU PRE-REGISTER VIA EVENTBRITE JUST TO EX EXPEDITE THE PROCESS. UH, SECONDLY, SUPERVISOR HAGMAN IS ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FROM OUR FOURTH DISTRICT, UM, RESIDENTS TO FILL THREE MEMBERS FOR THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION IN THE BERNARDINO COUNTY DA'S OFFICE. FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN SERVING AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COUNTY, PLEASE SUBMIT A LETTER OF INTEREST, A RESUME, AND THREE REFERENCES. YOU MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE FOURTH DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES CHINO, CHINO HILLS, MONTCLAIR, ONTARIO, AND PORTIONS OF UPLAND. IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, SPEC SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR NEED MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE REACH OUT TO SUPERVISOR HACKMAN'S DISTRICT OFFICE AT 9 0 9 4 6 5 5 2 6 5. MEETINGS FOR THIS COMMISSION, UH, TAKES PLACE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, UH, IN SAN BERNARDINO, AND THE TERM OF SERVICE IS FOR ONE TERM, UH, WHICH CONSISTS OF 18 MONTHS OF, UM, AS A COMMISSIONER. SO THAT IS IT. AND IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE, UM, PLEASE DO SHARE THE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY MAY ALSO SUBMIT. OKAY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. AND HAPPY VALENTINE'S TO VALENTINE'S TO EVERYONE, EVERYONE AND THEIR FAMILIES. THANK YOU. THANKS, SUZETTE. THAT IS THE FINAL SPEAKER CARD THAT I HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. ANY [ CONFLICT OF INTEREST ANNOUNCEMENTS: Council Member abstentions shall be stated at this time for recordation on the appropriate item.] CONFLICT OF INTEREST? ANNOUNCEMENTS, CONFLICTS? ANYBODY? NOPE. GUESS WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. NEXT IS [ CONSENT CALENDAR (6 ITEMS) - All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are considered routine by the City Council and may be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless, before the City Council votes on the motion to adopt, Members of the City Council or staff request the matter to be removed from the Consent Calendar for separate action. Removed consent items will be discussed immediately after the adoption of the balance of the Consent Calendar.] THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THERE ARE SIX ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, SO LOOKING TO SEE IF ANYBODY WISHES TO PULL EIGHT THROUGH 13. BRIAN? NO SIR. ALRIGHT. NO. RIGHT. ONE NUMBER 10. ONE 10. CYNTHIA? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CAN I MOVE THE, UH, REMAINDER? OH, SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. ITEM NUMBER [10. Authorize execution of agreement for 2023 Carbon Canyon Wildfire Protection Plan with development partners Cal Fire, Chino Valley Independent Fire District, Brea Fire Department, and California Department of Parks and Recreation] 10 IS TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT FOR THE 2023 CARBON CANYON WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN. OKAY, RAY? YEAH, MR. MAYOR, THE REASON I PULLED THIS IS WHEN YOU READ THE ITEM NUMBER 10, YOU KNOW, IT TALKS ABOUT CAL FIRE, CHINO VALLEY INDEPENDENT FIRE DISTRICT, ROYAL FIRE, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. AND I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT, UM, OUR CARBON CANYON FIRE SAFE COUNCIL. UM, AT ONE TIME IT WAS JUST CHINO HILL'S RESIDENCE. I WOULD SAY ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, WE OPENED IT UP TO, UH, THE CITY OF BREA, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THE WORKER BEES. AND MR. JOHNSON, ERIC, YOU'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, BASICALLY COMPILING INFORMATION DATA, AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU WENT BACK A HUNDRED YEARS AS FAR AS FIRES IN CARBON CANYON. IS THAT CORRECT, ERIC? YES, IT IS CORRECT. BUT I'D LOVE TO TAKE ALL THE CREDIT FOR THAT. THE, UM, THE FIRE HISTORY WAS DONE BY MELANIE SLAUGHTER BECK FOR HILLS FOR EVERYONE, WHERE SHE SPENT MANY, MANY HOURS GOING BACK THROUGH NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, YOU KNOW, WELL, MY KEY ISSUE IS THAT IT'S THE CARBON CANYON FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, WHICH SHE'S PART OF. AND I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THIS DOCUMENT. GR GREAT JOB. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. ONE SECOND. [00:35:05] MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. EXCELLENT. SO THAT'S IT FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MM-HMM. . MOVING ON. NEXT [14. Introduce ordinance proposing reasonable and necessary regulations on massage businesses to protect legitimate business owners and massage professionals entitled: “An Ordinance of the City of Chino Hills Amending Chapter 5.24 (Massages) of the Chino Hills Municipal Code and Finding That the Ordinance is not a Project Under the California Environmental Quality Act” for first reading by title only and waiving further reading] IS ITEM NUMBER 14. I DO WANNA MENTION THAT THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED ON THE DIAS, AND IT IS IN THE PUBLIC BINDER OUT ON THE, UM, OUT ON THE FOYER OUT THERE. AND ALSO THERE IS A RED LINE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ALSO DISTRIBUTED FOR THIS ITEM. EXCUSE ME. THIS ITEM IS TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE PROPOSING REASONABLE AND NECESSARY REGULATIONS ON MASSAGE BUSINESSES TO PROTECT LEGITIMATE BUSINESS OWNERS AND MASSAGE PROFESSIONALS. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THIS. BEN, I'LL, WHERE ARE WE GOING? ASSISTANT, UH, CITY ATTORNEY CALANO WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION ON THIS. AH, BETH, COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, WE'VE PROPOSING AN ORDINANCE TO, UM, UH, REGULATE THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS IN TOWN. WE REALIZED WHEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT, THAT WE NEEDED TO STRENGTHEN THE ORDINANCE WHILE STILL, UM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO REGULATE, UH, IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD, UH, HELP US IN ADDRESSING ANY ILLICIT BUSINESSES WHILE NOT OVERBURDENING OUR, UH, LEGITIMATE MASSAGE BUSINESSES. SO THERE WERE THREE ASPECTS TO THE ORDINANCE. UM, THE FIRST WAS, UM, THE ENABLING LANGUAGE TO ALLOW WARRANTLESS EXPECT INSPECTIONS. MASSAGE BUSINESSES ARE U UNIQUE AMONGST A FEW OTHER KINDS OF BUSINESSES, BUSINESSES WITH ALCOHOL, OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE PERVASIVELY REGULATED. THE COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT, UM, BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THEY ARE, THEY CAN BE MORE REGULATED. SO YOU CAN DO THESE WARRANTLESS INSPECTIONS, BUT WE NEEDED THAT ENABLING, UM, ENABLING, UH, LANGUAGE IN OUR ORDINANCE TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S, UH, A BIG PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT. THE OTHER REQUIREMENT WAS THAT THERE IS AN OPERATOR REQUIREMENT THAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO, UH, RECOMMENDING BE PUT INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT ANY BUSINESS, UH, MANAGER OR OWNER WOULD HAVE AN OPERATOR REQUIREMENT AND GET A, A BACKGROUND CHECK AND, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW OTHER REQUIRED PROCEDURES. UH, IF THEY HAVE A CAM TECH CERTIFICATION THAT CAM TECH IS THE INDUSTRY, THE VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATION THAT REGULATES MASSAGE THERAPISTS, THEN THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH OUR, OUR, OUR BACKGROUND CHECK. BUT IF NOT, THEN THEY WOULD. SO THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF IT. AND THIRD IS WE JUST HAD A NUMBER OF UPGRADES TO THE ORDINANCE AND BEST PRACTICES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS. WE RELIED HEAVILY ON BRANDY CASTRO, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE SHE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN OTHER CITIES REGULATING MASSAGE BUSINESSES. SO WE ADDED A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS TO STRENGTHEN IT. UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK HER FOR HER WORK. UM, WE DID RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS. WE PROVIDED, UH, WE GAVE NOTICE TO THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS IN TOWN, AND WE SENT THEM THE MASSAGE ORDINANCES. WE RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS, SO WE HAVE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS. SOME OF THOSE WE WERE IN BEF BEFOREHAND. UM, WELL, THE PACKET AND SOME OF THEM CAME IN AFTERWARDS. SO THE LETTER THAT YOU HAVE TODAY, UM, WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND WE'VE REDLINED THEM FOR YOU. IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE CHANGES OR ANY, UH, OTHER ASPECT OF THE ORDINANCE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UM, I'M HERE AND I'M TAG TAING WITH ROD HILL. IF IT'S A POLICY ISSUE, I WILL REFER TO HIM. AND IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S A LEGAL ISSUE, THEN I WILL TAKE THE QUESTION. NOPE. ANY QUESTIONS TO START OFF? QUESTIONS OF BETH? GOOD, NO QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT, BUT WAIT. OKAY. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD FOR NOW. HERE IF YOU NEED ME, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON THE SIDE. OKAY. MAY BER BERTES. HI, WELCOME. HI, MY NAME IS MAY BURKS AND I AM THE MANAGER OF HAND AND STONE MASSAGE AND FACIAL SPA HERE IN CHINO HILLS. AND I REALLY JUST WANTED TO COME AND SAY WITH THE, THE OWNER, IRMA ALTON, OUR MASSAGE LEAD, JACKIE HERNANDEZ, TO SAY THANK YOU. UM, WE WORKED WITH RANDY CASTRO, PUT IN OUR SUGGESTIONS. SHE REALLY DID THE EDITS AND REALLY PAID ATTENTION, AND WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH HER ANSWERS AND EDITS. AND IT MADE THE, THE ORDINANCE SO CLEAR AND ABSOLUTELY WORKABLE. AND SO WE ARE, WE JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB IN, IN LISTENING TO US. [00:40:01] EXCELLENT. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM. . GOOD JOB, RANDY . OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? NO OTHER SPEAKERS. ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. COME ON UP. I DIDN'T TURN THE CARDS FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE CALLING AN AUDIBLE. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. MAYOR. UM, MY NAME IS DAVE FRIDA. MY WIFE, NOW I'M HAPPY TO SAY, IS A MASSAGE THERAPIST AND A SHOP OWNER HERE IN CHINO HILLS. WE'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS. UH, YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO HER SHOP MAYOR, AND I'LL JUST LET IT GO AT THAT. UM, NO. TO DROP SOMETHING OFF, FOLKS TO DROP SOMETHING OFF. OKAY. SHE WAS AWARDED A, UH, A, A CHECK. A CHECK, YES, EXACTLY. FOR THE COVID PANDEMIC STUFF AND WHATNOT. UM, I, I REVIEWED THIS AND I, I AGREE. IT'S, IT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY WELL PUT TOGETHER. AND I HAVE ONLY TWO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. MY BACKGROUND IS SECURITY. NOPE, NOT POLICE WORK, BUT SECURITY WORK. UM, ONE OF THEM IS THAT ALL EXTERIOR DOORS, UH, EXCEPT THE REAR EXIT DOORS, ONLY EMPLOYEES ENTRANCE, UH, MUST REMAIN UNLOCKED DURING THE DAYTIME. I AGREE. AS LONG AS WE CAN LEAVE THE BACK DOOR LOCKED, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY WALKING IN UNANNOUNCED THROUGH THE BACK DOOR BEHIND A BUSINESS. VERY SCARY FOR ME. SO THAT, THAT'S ONE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE. UM, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, UM, THE BUZZER. MASSAGE HILLS MAY NOT BE EQUIPPED WITH A BUZZER ALARM OR INTERCOM SYSTEM. I CONCUR WITH INTERCOM, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. BUT WE HAVE A DOOR CHIME. UH, IF MY WIFE OR ONE OF HER WORKERS IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THERE, SHE NEEDS TO KNOW SOMEONE'S ENTERED THE FRONT DOOR, SO THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT. UM, SHE DOES NOT HAVE DOORS, SHE DOES NOT HAVE WALLS, SHE HAS CURTAINS. BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE'S CAME IN. I WORRY FOR HER SAFETY. I DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT AS MUCH HERE IN CHINO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHINO HILLS. BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT IT. SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND, UH, HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK HERE. COMMENTS, RIGHT? YEAH. MR. MAYOR, REAL FAST. UM, POLICE CHIEF, OUR FIRE CHIEF, EXCUSE ME. UH, DURING BUSINESS HOURS, ALL EXIT DOORS HAVE TO BE UNLOCKED, CORRECT? I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE PANIC HARDWARE OR IT IS LOCKED FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT FROM THE INSIDE, YOU PUSH THE DOOR AND IT WOULD OPEN CORRECT? AN EXIT DOOR COUNCIL MEMBER, MARTINEZ, I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THE CODE. I, I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST THAT I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THE BACK DOORS, BUT THERE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE A MEANS OF EGRESS IN, IN ENTERING EGRESS. AS FAR AS THE BACK DOOR'S CONCERNED, LIKE ON AN ALLEYWAY, THERE MIGHT BE AN EXCEPTION. I'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO LOOK AT THE CODE TO ADDRESS THAT. HONESTLY, FOR MY EXPERTISE, I WOULD SAY, UH, PER CODE, ANY EXIT DOOR THAT'S CONSIDERED AN EXIT DOOR HAS TO BE UNLOCKED. SO THAT'S MY, MY EXPERIENCE, AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT TOO, SO, BUT THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT. RIGHT? NOT FOR INGRESS. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE COMMENTS? THE ONLY COMMENT I HAD, AND MAY ALREADY GOT UP TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK, UM, HAND AND STONE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE LETTER AND TO BE SO DETAILED, UH, WITH YOUR INPUT. AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT AND WORK TOGETHER ON IT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT, IS THAT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE HERE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES TO MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND, AND DOING THAT. THAT'S IT. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, SIR. QUESTION OF STAFF. UH, BEN, THE TWO COMMENTS ARE TWO EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED. THE, THE BUZZER, LETTING SOMEBODY LET SOMEONE KNOW IF THEY'RE IN THERE BY THEMSELVES, THAT SOMEONE'S COMING IN THE FRONT DOOR AND THE ISSUE OF A LOCKED OR A LOCKED EXIT DOOR OR ENTRANCE, EXIT DOOR AT THE BACK. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE? CAN WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES, UH, TO REVIEW THOSE? IS IT A LEGAL, UH, QUESTION? WHAT'S, CAN WE, CAN WE ADDRESS THOSE TWO ITEMS? UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BENNETT, I KNOW THAT OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ROD HILL'S, BEEN WORKING DIRECTLY WITH ALL THE PARTIES ON THIS. UH, I'M GONNA DEFER TO HIM ON WHETHER OR NOT I, I THINK FIRST I'LL PHRASE IT AS ARE THOSE, UH, EXPLICITLY PROHIBITED? UH, UH, AND, UH, IF SO, UH, WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS WOULD MAKE SENSE? UH, ROD, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? I KNOW THE BUZZERS ARE SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED. I'M LOOKING FOR BRANDY OR FOR BETH ON THIS OTHER ITEM ABOUT THE DOORS. I THINK WE DID HAVE, THERE WAS ONE EXCEPTION RELATED TO A SOLE OCCUPANT, UH, OPERATOR THAT THEY HAD SOME PROVISIONS THEY COULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ROB, CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE? SORRY. AND TIP UP. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE DOOR REQUIREMENTS THAT'S NOT WITHSTANDING. THE ABOVE. THE EXTERNAL DOORS MAY BE LOCKED IF THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT IS OWNED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL WITH ONE OR NO EMPLOYEES OR INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS. I THINK TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT THE, UM, MASSAGES OPERATOR SUGGESTED, WE COULD MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE EXPLICIT THAT [00:45:01] IF THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON IN THE ESTABLISHMENT AT THE TIME, THAT, UM, WE WOULD, UM, THAT IT MAY BE LOCKED. SO I THINK I'LL, I'LL MODIFY THAT TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE. SO IF ONLY ONE PERSON IS IN THERE, IT COULD BE LOCKED. UM, THE BUZZER IS EXCLUDED THOUGH, RIGHT NOW. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT ALLOW ANY BUS ENTRY BUZZERS OF ANY SORT. I, I, I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT REASON. THAT WAS SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OTHER AGENCIES, I BELIEVE. RIGHT? SO THAT IS, IF THERE IS ILLICIT ACTIVITY GOING ON, WE, THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS TO PREVENT THE FRONT FROM BEING ABLE TO WARN EVERYONE TO STOP THE ILLICIT ACTIVITY. AND, UH, SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT. WE DID MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR ONE OF THE BUSINESSES WHO'D REQUESTED THAT PATRONS, IF THEY WERE UNCOMFORTABLE, BE ABLE TO HAVE A BUZZER UNDERNEATH THE MASSAGE TABLE THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, IF THEY FELT UNCOMFORTABLE AT ANYTHING, THEY COULD PRESS THAT. SO WE MADE THAT EXCEPTION. BUT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I BELIEVE, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS, WAS NOT TO MAKE A REC, NOT TO, UM, ALLOW AN EXCEPTION FOR THE BUZZER AT THE FRONT DOOR. OKAY, SIR, COME ON UP. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID SEND AN EMAIL IN REGARDING THIS, AND THE RESPONSE I GOT BACK WAS THAT IT DID NOT INCLUDE A DOOR POSITION. THIS ISN'T A DOOR BUTTON, IT'S, THIS IS WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR, YOU GET A DING DONG CHIME SO THAT SOMEBODY IN THE BACK KNOWS SHE'S IN BEHIND A CURTAIN DOING MASSAGE. SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT FRONT DOOR'S OPEN. SHE HAS NO SOUND, NO NOTIFICATION, NOTHING. I UNDERSTAND THE NOTIFICATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ROD. MM-HMM. , I WOULD PROMOTE THAT 155%. HOWEVER, WALKING IN NOT BEING ABLE TO TELL SOMEBODY'S WALKED IN THE DOOR, YOU'RE ALONE. BAD SITUATION. SO THERE'S SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS I THINK THAT BEST PROPOSE THAT WILL MAKE BEFORE THE FINAL ORDINANCE COMES FORWARD. THIS IS ONE THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OTHER THOUGHTS? BRIAN, SIR? SO IF WE PROCEDURALLY, IF WE MOVE THIS ALONG WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL REVIEW THOSE TWO, CAN WE DO THAT OR DO WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO US WITH WHATEVER THE FINAL RESOLUTION IS? MARK, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, THE INTENT WAS TO INTRODUCE US THIS EVENING. SO, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, BETH ALREADY EXPLAINED HOW SHE WOULD CHANGE THE ONE ISSUE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE REMAINING ISSUE IS THIS, UM, BUZZER SYSTEM, WHICH, UM, AS, AS I WOULD UNDERSTAND IT, THE, WHAT THE GENTLEMAN'S SAYING IS THAT HAVING SOME SORT OF CHIME ON THE DOOR, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS BUZZER SYSTEM IS, IS SOMEBODY SITTING THERE AND PRESSING THE BUZZER THAT EVERYONE IN THE BACK CAN HEAR AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT THE, THE DOOR WILL JUST CHIME WHEN SOMEBODY OPENS IT. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE EQUIVALENT TO MY BETH, DON'T YOU GO. SO THAT, SO YEAH, THIS STATES THAT NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO PROHIBITS SMOKE, FIRE ALARMS. IT ALSO SAYS THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT MAY NOT BE EQUIPPED WITH A BUZZER ALARM OR INTERCOM SYSTEM EXCEPT FOR ALARMS INSTALLED UNDER MASSAGE TABLES FOR USE OF THE PATRON. UM, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN'S TALKING ABOUT. IS SOMETHING ON THE FRONT DOOR, LIKE WHEN YOU GO INTO ANY CORRECT. IT PUTS A A DOOR CHIME. DOOR CHIME. SO THIS IS NOT, I MEAN, SEVERAL BUSINESSES HAVE THOSE TYPES OF CHIMES, SO I DON'T, THESE ARE NOT, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S READY TO GO. I THINK IT ALSO ALLOWS SECURITY SYSTEMS APPROVED BY THE CITY, AND THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT'S SET UP LIKE A SECURITY SYSTEM. I GUESS THAT COULD ALSO BE A CONSIDERATION, I SUPPOSE WE COULD ADD IN OR AUTOMATIC DOOR CHIME IN THE EXCEPTION TO MAKE IT EXPLICIT. MM-HMM. . SO, OKAY, SO THEN THE ORDINANCE WE'LL READ, UM, IN, IN THE SECTION T OF 5.2, 4.100, UH, AT THE END OF YOU, SORRY, IT WILL HAVE THE WORDS OR AUTOMATIC DOOR CHIME ADDED. AND THEN ON T AT THE END OF T, UM, THE WORDS IS OWNED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL WITH ONE OR NO EMPLOYEES OR INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS REMOVED, AND INSTEAD HAVE THE WORDS, IF ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL IS IN THE BUSINESS AT THE TIME, THAT WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION FOR LOCKING THE DOORS. OKAY. SEEMS IS THAT ONE EMPLOYEE OR IS THAT THE EMPLOYEE AND ONE CUSTOMER? OH, GOOD POINT. . I'M THINK EMPLOYEE, I THINK, I THINK CUSTOMER. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT IS FOR ONE EMPLOYEE. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES. NO, NO ISSUE. RIGHT. THEN YOU CAN INTRODUCE, SO OUR ACTION TONIGHT, WE RECEIVING, WE'RE GOING TO PASS ON THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING IS TO ADOPT IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. [00:50:01] SO WE'RE INTRODUCING IT. WE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. UH, I'LL MOVE THE ITEM YEAH. AS CHANGED AS SECOND IT, YEAH. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHATEVER THE FIRE CODE STATES, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT. SO IF IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW, THE FIRE CODE WILL SUPERSEDE AS FAR AS ANY LOCKED DOORS, CORRECT, MARK? CORRECT. AND, OKAY. AND I, I THINK THE POINT WAS THAT, AND YOU'RE CORRECT, IS THAT THE DOORS HAVE TO BE, UM, THE BACK DOOR, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT. YEAH. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN TO GET IN. WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN TO GET OUT. I KNOW I'VE DONE INSPECTIONS BEFORE IN THE PAST WHERE PEOPLE DO LOCK DOORS WHERE YOU CAN'T PUSH IT OPEN. AND THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, RIGHT? SO IF WE SAY THAT IT CAN BE LOCKED, SOMEBODY'S GONNA THINK, HEY, LET ME PUT A LOCK IN THE BACK DOOR, WHICH WOULD BE AN EXIT DOOR. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'VE VOTED, WE'RE WAITING ON A VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER BENNETT VOTED. OH, I THOUGHT I DID. YES. LOCKED. COME ON, MARK. LET'S VOTE. IT'S LOCKED. I HAVE TO HIT AGAIN. THERE YOU GO. IT SAYS YES. OKAY. THERE WE GO. DO YOU GET MY SHOW? MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM [15. Provide direction regarding permitting Major Wireless Facilities in City Open Space] IS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION REGARDING PERMITTING MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES AND CITY OPEN SPACE. UM, WE DID DISTRIBUTE A REVISION OF THE REPORT. THE ONLY REVISION WAS THE ADDITION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S SIGNATURE. THIS IS TO BE PRESENTED BY SENIOR PLANNING ANALYST, BRUNETTO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR ROGERS, VICE MAYOR MORAN AND FELLOW COUNSEL. WELCOME. UM, WE'RE HERE CIRCLING BACK TO DISCUSS MAJOR FACILITIES IN THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AND, UM, OUR POLICIES FOR THOSE. SO I APOLOGIZE, I'M A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE WEATHER AND SO ARE MY SLIDES. SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER RIGHT NOW. THAT'S OKAY. UM, UM, FIRST, UM, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON OUR CURRENT POLICY, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, HOW WE GOT THERE. UM, THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR APPROVED MAJOR FACILITIES, HOW, UM, THOSE FACILITIES ARE MAINTAINED. PROS AND CONS OF THESE FACILITIES. UM, IN, UM, CITY OPEN SPACE, UH, THE FIRST NET EMERGENCY RESPONDER NETWORK THAT IS, UM, UH, FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, THAT IS USED WELL, THAT ONE MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES, UM, PHOTO DESIGNS, UH, OF DIFFERENT SAMPLES OF PHOTO DESIGNS OF MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES, OPTIONS FOR, UM, COMPARABLE COVERAGE. AND THEN, UM, WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD. 10 MINUTES. NO WORRIES. UH, LITTLE BACKGROUND. IN 1996, WE, UH, THE HAD THE FEDERAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT. AND, UM, WITH THAT LOCAL, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY BECAME A BIT CONSTRAINED. UM, AT THAT TIME, ALL SEGMENTS OF SOCIETY BECAME INCREASINGLY RELIANT ON WIRELESS TECHNOLOGIES. AND, UM, WE CONTINUED TO BE CONTINUALLY, UM, RELIANT ON WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY. UH, WE ALSO, UM, NEED TO PROVIDE, UM, ADEQUATE, I'M SORRY, FOR CARRIERS NEEDED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICE. UM, THEY STARTED, UM, I'M GONNA START AGAIN TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICE. WIRELESS PROVIDERS RELY ON MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES DESIGNED TO REACH LARGE POPULATION AREAS FOR A COMMUNITY WITH VARIED TOPOGRAPHY SUCH AS COMMUNI, SUCH AS CHINO HILLS. THE BEST LOCATIONS FOR MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES ARE ON OR NEAR THE TOP OF THE HILLS. MOST OF THE CITY'S HILLS ARE IN OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY. AND, UM, PREVIOUSLY MANY MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES HAVE LOCATED ON OR ADJACENT TOITY WATER TANKS. WHEN WE HAVE ABOUT, UM, EIGHT MAJOR FACILITIES ON OR ADJACENT TO CITY'S WATER, CITY WATER TANKS, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE ALLOWS MAJOR FACILITIES TO, UH, LOCATE IN PUBLIC OPEN SPACES. WE DO REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS. SO THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THEY NEED TO BE DESIGNED TO MINIMIZE VISUAL IMPACTS, INCLUDING STEALS TECHNOLOGY. WE DO REQUIRE THAT THEY PROVIDE WORSE CASE VIEW SIMULATIONS. UM, THEY NEED TO BE A MINIMUM OF 200 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. UH, WE DO REQUIRE THAT THEY PROVIDE US, UM, AND DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE SITES, AND THIS IS THE BEST LOCATION. UH, THEY NEED TO BE AT LEAST A THOUSAND FEET FROM EACH OTHER. AND CURRENTLY THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET [00:55:01] FOR A WIRELESS FACILITY, UM, WHEN MEASURED FROM LOS ADJACENT GRADE. HOWEVER, THEY CAN ASK FOR AN ADJUSTMENT IF THEY DO NEED TO GO HIGHER, BUT THEY NEED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT IS A LESSER IMPACT ON AESTHETICS AND WELFARE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. AND THE PROPOSED FACILITY ALLOWS FOR A CO-LOCATION. WE RECENTLY APPROVED, UM, SEVERAL FO UM, FO WIRELESS FACILITIES. ONE IS A EUCALYPTUS TREE ON CA, NEAR CAAS AND MARCOS AND GRAND AVENUE. ANOTHER IS ADJACENT TO THE EASTVIEW TRAIL, UH, BETWEEN THE BUTTERFIELD RANCH ROAD AND THE 71 AND THE THIRD WAS RECENTLY APPROVED, UM, OFF OF SOCAL CANYON PARKWAY. UH, BEHIND THE ALBERTSON CENTER, THE ONE ON THE EASTVIEW TRAIL AND THE ONE ON SOCAL CANYON PARKWAY. THEY'RE BOTH FULL WATER TANKS. UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR FACILITIES THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW, AND THEY ARE, THREE OF THOSE ARE WATER TANKS AND ONE IS A TREE. THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES, UH, THE RECENTLY APPROVED FACILITIES. THE LITTLE PURPLE STARS ARE THE THREE THAT I JUST MENTIONED. AND, UM, THE FOUR GREEN ICONS ARE THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW. THIS MAP DEMONSTRATES ALL THE EXISTING FACILITIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, INCLUDING THOSE THAT I IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. AND THESE ARE THE MAJOR FACILITIES ON PUBLIC AND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS EVERYTHING PROPOSED, EXISTING AND, UM, ON PUBLIC AND ON PRIVATE. SO ON THE PUBLIC FACILITIES, WE HAVE FOUR RESERVOIRS CONTAINED FACILITIES. WE HAVE TWO STANDALONE FACILITIES THAT ARE FAUX TREES, FIVE THAT ARE CO-LOCATIONS, AND THEN TWO THAT ARE UNDER, UM, PENDING CONSTRUCTION. AND THE, AND THE CO-LOCATIONS ARE THOSE THAT ARE KIND OF LIKE AN SCE TOWERS ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, WE HAVE FOUR STANDALONE, WHICH ARE LIKE, THERE'S THE RESERVOIR, THE QUE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE SIX CO-LOCATIONS, WHICH YOU WOULD, YOU ACTUALLY WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE THERE. THERE'S ONE AT CROSSROADS, MARKETPLACE ONE, UM, AT THE CVS. UM, WELL, THERE'S THE AL LIST OVER AT THE COMMONS, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU THOUGHT THAT WOULD JUST BE A COOL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, SO WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW RIGHT NOW AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH. SO HERE WE GO. UM, SO NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK. UM, WHAT WE DO REQUIRE, AND WE, AND WE'VE DEVELOPED THESE, UM, REQUIREMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, IS FOR MAJOR FACILITIES, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THEIR YOUTH, YOUTH USEFUL LIFE, THAT, UM, THE FACILITIES ARE MAINTAINED IN THEIR CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PLANS, INCLUDING TYPE, COLOR, EXTERIOR MATERIALS. SO, UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE FAUX TREES, OCCASIONALLY WE REQUIRE THAT THEY REPLACE THE, THE STOCKS THAT ARE USED TO, UM, LOOK LIKE, SO THAT THE ANTENNAS LOOK LIKE BRANCHES. THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE, THOSE ARE REPLACED PERIODICALLY. UM, THE SITE HAS TO BE MAINTAINED FREE OF TRASH AND DEBRIS. THE GRAFFITI HAS TO BE REMOVED WITHIN 48 HOURS. AND IF IT'S DISCONTINUED OR ABANDONED OR NO LONGER AN OPERATION, THE OPERATOR MUST REMOVE THE FACILITY AND RETURN THE PROJECT TO ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE, LIKE AVERAGE LIFE, OH, HELLO, . SORRY. I KNOW. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN IS OF ONE OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES? I KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC ONES IS THE ONE ON THE SOUTH PART OF TOWN WITH THE, THE CITY LOGO ON THE SIDE. AND IT JUST, LIKE, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. I PROBABLY WANNA SAY IT'S PROBABLY BEEN LIKE 15 YEARS AT LEAST. YEAH, I DO NOT KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE DO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CARRIERS HERE THAT'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO ANSWER, ANSWER THAT FOR YOU SEE A GENTLEMAN WITH A T-MOBILE, T-MOBILE, UH, WIN BRAND. YEP. SO, UM, AS WE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT, UM, AT AND T IS A PROVIDER OF WHAT WE CALL, UM, WHAT'S CALLED THE FIRST NET, UM, EMERGENCY RESPONDER SERVICE. UM, IT'S A NATIONWIDE COMMUNICATIONS PLATFORM. UM, IT DEPENDS ON MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES TO OPERATE AND EXPAND, UM, WITHIN ITS REACH. UH, CURRENTLY THE CHINO HILLS POLICE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DISTRICT U UTILIZE FIRST NET IN ADDITION TO, [01:00:01] UM, THEIR LOCAL WHATEVER CONTRACT THEY HAVE FOR THE LOCAL CARE FOR THEIR CELL PHONES, UM, AT AND T'S ACTIVELY PURSUING, UM, MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES, THREE APPROVED, UM, FOR PENDING THAT WILL HELP ACTUALLY FURTHER EXPAND THIS SERVICE. UM, AND THEN IF OPEN SPACE IS NOT, UH, AVAILABLE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'LL HAVE TO DEPLOY TEMPORARY SITES, UM, WHILE THEY'RE SEEKING, UM, PERMANENT LOCATIONS. SO, UM, THIS IS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THAT IT'S NOT JUST, UM, YOUR, YOUR DAY-TO-DAY RESIDENTIAL USE OR BUSINESS USE. THERE'S ALSO AN EMERGENCY COMPONENT TO THESE MAJOR FACILITIES. SO HERE'S THE PROS. IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW, UM, MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES AND OPEN SPACE, IT EXPANDS WIRELESS SERVICE, PARTICULARLY IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, EXPANDS EMERGENCY SERVICES, UM, ABILITY TO RESPOND TO 9 1 1 CALLS. AS A PROPERTY OWNER, THE CITY HAS GREATER DISCRETION IN ITS REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY, INCLUDING AESTHETICS AND WHETHER OR NOT THE FACILITY IS SUITABLE FOR THE LOCATION. AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT IS THAT THE CITY DOES RECEIVE REVENUE FOR THE LEASE OF THE LAND. THE LEASE REVENUE GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND IT CAN BE USED TO HELP TO MAINTAIN THE OPEN SPACE OR FOR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICES. UM, A CON IS THAT IT'S, THERE IS A VISUAL IMPACT TO THAT. THIS MAP ILLUSTRATES OUR EXISTING OPEN SPACE PARCELS. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME DESIGNS OF FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED OR WILL BE BUILT WITHIN THE CITY. SO IT'S THE GORDON RANCH FULL WATER TANK. THE, THE TWO ON THE, UM, THE OPEN SPACE FACILITIES. THE RENDERINGS ARE FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON CIRCLE CANYON AND EASTVIEW TRAIL. YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT, BUT THERE'S A FAUX TREE. UH, THIS IS THE CAIUS AND MARCOS, UH, FAUX TREE, AND THEN THERE'S THE MONOLITH AT THE COMMONS. THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT OTHER SITES COULD LOOK LIKE. I'M A LITTLE, I LIKE THE BISON, BUT, UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE DO HAVE OUT THERE. UM, SO AS FAR AS FOR COMPAR COMPARABLE WIRELESS COVERAGE, IF THE FACILITIES ARE NOT PERMITTED IN OPEN SPACE, THE CARERS WOULD NEED TO, UM, SEEK AVAILABLE PRIVATE OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE FACILITIES, OR THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO, UM, EXPAND THE USE OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF AWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WOULD BE CO-LOCATING ON STREETLIGHTS. SO, UM, THE, THERE ARE PUBLIC UTILITY. THEY, THEY DO HAVE THAT RIGHT TO UTILIZE, UM, ANY, UM, PUBLIC STREET LIGHTS. AND THAT IS, THAT WOULD, THERE'S AN OPTION THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THEM. UM, OPTIONS IN A RESIDENTIAL ONLY NEIGHBORHOODS MAY BE LIMITED, UM, DUE TO LACK OF AVAILABLE OPTIONS AND IN ZONING RESTRICTIONS. SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER WOULD NOT BE, PER OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LEASE SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A FULL, UM, A OR A, UM, MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITY. WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION TO, UM, SHOULD MAJOR FACILITIES BE CONTINUED TO BE PERMITTED IN CITY OPEN SPACE. IF YES, SHOULD WE ADD ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON SHOULD WE, UM, WHAT TYPE OF FOE DESIGNS SHOULD BE USED? IF NO, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, SUCH AS INCREASING THE HEIGHT OF A FACILITY, UM, AND ALLOWING IN OTHER ZONES OR, UM, ANY OTHER DIRECTION OR QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. WELL, THANK YOU. YOU BET. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. SO LET'S HAVE SOME DIALOGUE READY? SURE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION. UM, DO WE HAVE A STUDY BY OUR OWN ENGINEER AS FAR AS WHERE THE WEAK AREAS ARE THROUGHOUT CHINO HILLS WHERE WE NEED IMPROVEMENT? NO, WE DO NOT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO? I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, TO FIGURE OUT THE CERTAIN AREAS THAT NEED, I MEAN, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS IN OPEN SPACE, I'D WANNA PUT IT WHERE WE ACTUALLY NEED IT NOW, WHERE WE DUPLICATE SERVICE, BUT BY CO BY CARRIER OR JUST IN GENERAL? IN GENERAL. OKAY. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, IF I CAN, UH, RESPOND TO THAT. CURRENTLY, WE RELY ON OUR WIRELESS PROVIDERS, UH, TO, UH, INFORM US OF WHERE THEY HAVE AREAS THEY'D LIKE TO INCREASE, UH, [01:05:01] THEIR COVERAGE. WE DO NOT, UH, REVIEW THAT WITH INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION. UH, WE WORK, UH, TO REQUIRE CO-LOCATION OR OTHER WAYS TO, TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT. BUT, UM, I, WE COULD INVESTIGATE IT. IT, I'M NOT SURE HOW, UH, UM, UH, COSTLY IT WOULD BE FOR US TO HIRE AN INDEPENDENT, UH, PERSON. I KNOW THROUGH MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE CARRIERS, THIS TENDS TO BE SEMI-PRO PROPRIETARY. THERE ARE MAPS AND INFORMATION LIKE THAT. UH, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEONE WHO SPECIALIZES IN THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE, THE CONCERN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERIFYING THE NEED. UH, CURRENTLY THE WAY WE DO THAT IS, UH, THROUGH OUR INTERACTIONS WITH THE CARRIERS. OKAY. AND THEN SECOND OF ALL, I KNOW WE DO HAVE, UM, BIG TOWER, UH, 200 FOOT POWER, POWER, UH, TOWERS. I GO FOR THE HILLS, HAD SOME OF 'EM TAKEN DOWN IN OAK TREE DOWNS. UM, THEY'RE ABOUT 200 FEET TALL. IS THAT'S A PLACE WHERE THEY COULD PUT, UM, SATELLITE OR, UM, CELL CELL ANTENNAS THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THEIR EXISTING COVERAGE AND WHAT THEIR NEED IS THAT I, I, I CAN'T ANSWER. SO IF THERE WAS A NEED, COULD THEY DO THAT FOR A CO-LOCATION? YES. OKAY. AND THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE, SINCE THERE IS A HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, SOME OF THESE TOWERS ARE 200 FEET TALL, SO WOULD THAT MEAN ANYTHING OR COULD THEY GO SAY 180 FEET ON THE TOWER? OH, OH. SO OKAY. YES. IF THEY WANTED TO CO-LOCATE, YES, THEY COULD GET A DEVIATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. OKAY. JUST WANNA GET CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I'M, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, THE TOWERS BEING IN THE OPEN SPACE, BUT I THINK THE CONCERNS ME WOULD BE LIKE THE DENSITY OF THE TOWERS AND SOME OPEN SPACE ALREADY HAS, LIKE THE TREES WHERE THEY WAS, ONE TREE WAS AMID THE OTHER TREES. BUT IF IT'S THE COMPLETELY OPEN SPACE, WE WOULD HAVE THE DIRECTION TO SAY WE DON'T WANT MM-HMM. THERE OR WHATEVER. AND THEN, UM, WHEN SHE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWERS ARE GONNA GO SOMEWHERE, SO IF WE SAY NO IN OPEN SPACE, THEY'RE STILL GONNA GO SOMEWHERE. SO I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY COULD ATTACH TO OUR STREET LIGHTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A PICTURE TO SAY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE VISUALLY IMPACTFUL THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE WATER TOWERS IN OUR OPEN SPACE. SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS. DIDN'T WE HAVE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO, DIDN'T WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIONS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON A, I I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING. I WATCHED IT, BUT I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING. OH, OKAY. I, I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE UPDATED THE ORDINANCE A YEAR OR SO AGO MM-HMM. , WE DID INCLUDE, UM, SOME VISUAL REPRESENTATIONS OF THE STREET, THE STREETLIGHT AND CO-LOCATIONS. YEAH. IT'S JUST NOT AS, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT AS POWERFUL. IT DOESN'T TAKE UP AS MUCH. IT, IT, IT'S A SMALL ANTENNA IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT'S NOT, UH, THERE VALLEY 10, I THINK 10. MM-HMM. NO, NOT, AND THEN SIX FEET OR SO IN HEIGHT IN ADDITION TO, OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. MY UNDERSTANDING ON 5G, UM, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY THE EXPERT, IT DOES HAVE TO BE CLOSER. IS THAT CORRECT OR NO? AND, AND I CAN COME UP AND ANSWER PLEASE, IF YOU COULD, I'D APPRECIATE THAT. COME ON UP. UM, PLEASE, MAYOR, WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS FROM SOME OF THE CARRIERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP. DID WE WANNA HAVE, WELL, HE'S AN EXPERT AND I'M ASKING HER QUESTIONS THAT SHE CAN'T ANSWER. OKAY. BUT WE HAVE OTHER CARRIERS THAT ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING ALSO THAT, OH, DO WE HAVE OTHER CAR CARRIERS TOO? THAT SOUNDS LIKE YES, WE DO. OKAY. THAT'S COOL. I THINK THERE'S, I WILL COMMENT NOW. WELL, THEY SHOULD GO IN THE ORDER THAT SHE HAS THEM. YEAH. OKAY. THEY RECEIVED TYLER GENTRY, GENTRY T-MOBILE. THERE YOU GO. GO RIGHT THERE. MAKE AN OFFICIAL LUCKY TO DROP. PERFECT. HI EVERYBODY, I'M TYLER GENK WITH T-MOBILE. UM, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS ITEM. AND, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE PROS AND CONS SLIDE BACK UP ON HERE? NOT SURE WHO'S WORKING THAT. OH, IF YOU, IF WE CAN, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO PUSH SOMETHING? I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME. I THINK YOU HAD SAID 5G CLOSER TO THE USER. UM, THAT DOES DEPEND ON WHICH TYPE OF SPECTRUM, UH, YOU'RE UTILIZING. SO VERIZON, AT AND T AND T-MOBILE ALL UTILIZE DIFFERENT SPECTRUM VANS TO, YOU KNOW, PROPAGATE OUR 5G TECHNOLOGY, OUR 5G SERVICE. UH, FOR US AT T-MOBILE, UH, I THINK WHERE YOU HEAR MOST OF THE, IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSER TO THE USER IS IN THE MILL MILLIMETER WAVE TECHNOLOGY. UM, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT T-MOBILE UTILIZES. WE DO HAVE SOME MILLIMETER WAVE, BUT TYPICALLY, UM, IN AREAS LIKE THIS THAT WE USE 2.5 AND LOW BAND, UM, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CLOSER TO THE USER, BUT WITH THE EMERGENCE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, THERE'S A LOT MORE USE CASES, A LOT MORE DATA BEING TRAFFICKED. SO THAT ADDS TO THE NEED FOR DENSIFICATION OF WIRELESS SITES [01:10:01] JUST BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY AND CAPACITY OF DATA FLOW. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , DID YOU GET THAT? SO FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT'S THE BEST LOCATION ON, ON STREET LIGHTS OR ON A HILLTOP IN A SPACE? IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SERVICE OBJECTIVE. SO THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TWO WAYS OF, OF LOOKING AT THIS. UM, IN AR IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN AREA OF COVERAGE NEED, HEIGHT IS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, OPTIMAL. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA OF DENSITY OR CAPACITY NEED WHERE THERE'S A LARGE USER, A LARGE AMOUNT OF USERS TAKING UP A LARGE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY ON THE NETWORK, THEN YOU NEED THAT DENSITY. SMALL CELLS, YOU KNOW, STREETLIGHT ATTACHMENTS ARE GREAT FOR DENSITY. UM, ALSO OTHER, YOU KNOW, ROOFTOP ATTACHMENTS, CHINO HILLS IS, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY UNIQUE IN THAT THE COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE IN LOWER LYING AREAS. AND THEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE YOU GET SOME MORE DENSITY OF USERS, YOU KNOW, AT SAY FIVE O'CLOCK TO NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. UM, THOSE DO TEND TO BE MORE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HILLSIDE AWAY FROM THE COMMERCIAL AREA. SO IT DOES CREATE MORE CHALLENGES IN THAT WE DON'T HAVE PROXIMITY UNLESS YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, UP HIGHER AND THEN THAT'S HOW YOU PROPAGATE A TO A GREATER EXTENT. AND WHAT'S T-MOBILE'S POSITION WITH RESPECT TO, UH, CO-LOCATION OF YOUR SITES? DO YOU AGREE WITH? YEAH, NO, WE, WE, WE SEEK TO CO-LOCATE FIRST. UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME WE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT A COVERAGE NEED OR A CAPACITY NEED, IT'S ALWAYS, UH, SERVICE OBJECTIVE VERSUS LEASE, UH, LEAST OBTRUSIVE MOONS MEANS. SO IT'S REALLY SEEING, OKAY, WHERE, WHERE'S THE, THE HAPPY MEDIUM THERE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CITE PERSPECTIVELY. UH, IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO DO SITES. IT COSTS A LOT OF TIME TO DO SITES, AND WE DO A LOT OF SITES, AND SO WE DON'T DO IT PERSPECTIVELY UNLESS THERE'S A NEED. SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN REGARDS TO ANTICIPATED NEED, IF THERE'S MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS, STADIUMS, THINGS LIKE THAT GOING IN FREEWAYS. UM, THEN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, A CHANCE WHERE WE WOULD DO SOMETHING PERSPECTIVELY. BUT TYPICALLY IT'S BASED OFF OF A DEMONSTRABLE NEED. AND FINAL QUESTION, ARE YOU ALERTED TO, UH, DROPS AND EVERYTHING MOSTLY BY YOUR CUSTOMERS? A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. SO IF WE'RE TALKING, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL SERVICE DROPS, IT COULD BE BY CUSTOMERS, WE DO HAVE THE DATA. IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, A FULL DROP, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE GET ALERTS ON IF IT'S ACTUALLY A DOWNED PART OF THE NETWORK, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. UM, WE HAVE A WHOLE TEXT CHAIN THAT GOES OUT. I'M IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BIG OFFICE OUT HERE IN ONTARIO. SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF OUR, OUR, UH, T-MOBILE ENGINEERS HERE IN THE CITY. UM, WE'RE ON BIG TEXTING. IT COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, COULD BE WHENEVER. AND THEN WE NEED ALL NEED TO GET ON THE PHONE, GET ON THE, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS AND START FIGURING OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS TO FIX IT. TYPICALLY, IT'S A BACK HAUL ISSUE. IF YOU SEE A LARGE SCALE DROP, UH, T-MOBILE HAD SOMETHING LAST NIGHT, I THINK THAT AFFECTED ABOUT 80,000 PEOPLE. AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AROUND 10:00 PM AT NIGHT. AND THAT WAS A, A BACK HAUL ISSUE. SOMETHING WAS CUT OR, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. SORRY TO TIE YOU UP ALL THE QUESTIONS. YOU'RE GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA HEAR FOR ANOTHER OKAY. PROVIDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE ELI VETO. I'M SMARTLINK AT AND T TIME TO SPEAK. THEY'RE THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TIME TO SPEAK. HE SPOKE FOR LIKE 10 MINUTES. NO, HE DIDN'T JOKE. OKAY. YES. YES. GOOD COUNCIL. MAYOR ROGERS. WRONG ONE. LET'S MOVE OVER. SEE, LEARN SOMETHING EVERY DAY, RIGHT? ? UH, WELL, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR ROGERS. MY NAME IS ELI ACEVEDO. I AM WITH, UH, SMARTLINK ON BEHALF OF AT AND T. UH, MY ROLE, UH, IN THIS ENTIRE PROCESS IS TO EFFECTIVELY FACILITATE THE SITE ACQUISITION PROCESS OF, UH, UM, NEW FACILITIES. UM, PARTICULAR I AM REPRESENTING A FEW SITES OUT HERE, UH, WHICH WERE REFERENCED PRIOR, UM, THROUGH YOUR STAFF, UH, THAT KIND OF OUTLINES WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT. UH, ADDITIONALLY, I DO HAVE MY COLLEAGUE HERE, UH, JULIO FIGUEROA, WHO REPRESENTS AT AND T FROM A MORE OF A, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, WE ARE HERE TO BE A RESOURCE. UM, AND AGAIN, JUST ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTED TOWARDS US, UH, UM, PLEASE ALLOW US TO, JUST TO KIND OF EDUCATE YOU GUYS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, UH, IN, IN SUPPORT OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. OKAY. MAYOR, UH, COUNSEL AND STAFF. UH, MY NAME IS DIRECTOR OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS. I THINK I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN DECEMBER, UH, LAST TIME WE WERE HERE. BUT BEFORE I GO INTO MY COMMENTS, I'M ALSO THE STATEWIDE TRIBAL LIAISON FOR AT T AND I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTIVELY ACKNOWLEDGE AND RECOGNIZE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE ORIGINAL AND CURRENT TAKE CARE CARETAKERS OF THIS LAND, WATER, AND AIR, THE KOYA, TOGO LU, AND, AND SERRANO PEOPLE AND OTHER ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE. TODAY'S MEETING PLACES HOME TO MANY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE AND WORK ON THESE HOME MEDS. UM, GREAT PRESENTATION, UH, REGARDING, UM, UM, AT [01:15:01] AND T AND FIRSTNET. UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, AT T'S ON A 25 YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN, UH, THIS MOBILE BROADBAND NETWORK FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE, UH, ADDRESS ALL THE GAPS IN COVERAGES AND, UM, THE NEED TO IMPROVE, UH, SERVICE WHERE THERE IS A HIGH DEMAND FOR OUR NETWORK. UH, MY COLLEAGUE IN, UH, IN T-MOBILE, UH, PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE INDUSTRY-WIDE RESPONSES THAT WE WOULD ALL GIVE THE VERY SIMILAR, SIMILAR, UM, IN CHINO HILLS, IT'S DIFFICULT TO CO-LOCATE WHEN YOUR LIMIT IS 35 FEET. I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, IN THE YEARS THAT I'VE SEEN OF OUR, OUR CELL SITES, IT'S VERY RARE THAT I SEE A CO-LO CAPABLE CELL SITE AT 35 FEET. IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 75 FEET OR HIGHER, OR YOU WILL NEVER GET A TWO CARRIERS ON THAT CELL SITE. UH, THE PLACEMENT OF CELL SITE IS REALLY DEPENDENT ON, ON THE USERS, RIGHT? IF THIS, THIS, THIS ENTIRE CITY WAS ALL T-MOBILE AND VERIZON, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE CARRIERS THAT PRETTY MUCH POPULATE THE WIRELESS INDUSTRY. SO EVERY CARRIER HAS, HAS ITS NEEDS, AND, UM, WE WILL RESPOND TO THOSE NEEDS JUST LIKE T-MOBILE, VERIZON DO. IF CUSTOMERS DECIDE TO GO OFF OF OUR NETWORK, THEN WE WON'T NEED AS MANY CELL SITES, BUT AS MORE COME ONTO OUR NETWORK ONLY TO ADDRESS THAT DEMAND, INCLUDING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS. SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, GOT A QUICK QUESTION. DO WE, DO EITHER ONE OF YOU, I GUESS EITHER ONE OF YOUR COMPANIES HAVE, UM, HAVE, UH, CELL TOWERS AFFIXED TO ANY OF OUR STREET LIGHTS CURRENTLY? I JUST WONDER. NO, I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW, UH, THE MASTER LICENSE AGREEMENT IS STILL IN THE WORKS. SO UNTIL THAT GETS PLACED, UM, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GO ONTO, UH, ANY OF YOUR, UH, CITY OWNS, UH, STREET LIGHTS. UH, WITH THAT, THOUGH, WE DON'T, OUR, OUR BUILD FOR SMALL CELLS IS GONNA BE VERY, VERY LIGHT. EVEN WHEN WE DO SIGN THAT MLA. UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT EIGHT IN THE WORKS TO ADDRESS CURRENT DEMAND. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT NEW SITE, THE LARGE MACRO CELL SITES, AND SIX OF THOSE, UH, OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS ARE SITTING ON OPEN SPACE. SO IF, IF THERE IS A BAN ON THAT AREA, THEN IT'S GONNA IMPACT OUR COVERAGE AND CAPACITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL QUICKLY ANSWER. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, I WOULD SAY IF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CONTRACT CROWN CASTLE TO DO OUR SMALL CELL. SO IF THERE'S CROWN CASTLE SMALL CELL CO-LOCATIONS IN THE CITY, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THERE. OURS OR YOU, I BELIEVE AT AND T AND VERIZON ALSO CONTRACT WITH THEM. THEN I'LL ASK JOANNE. JOANNE, I, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? CAUSE I KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR, AS AN EXAMPLE, SO CANYON OVER BY, UH, WICKMAN ELEMENTARY, THERE'S A NUMBER OF, I, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WERE SOLD, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES ON TOP OF POLES GOING UP SOHO CANYON. I, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA ASK YVETTE TO COME UP. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE BE BEEN APPROVED, BUT THEY HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET. UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW. BUT LET ME HAVE YVETTE COME UP BECAUSE SHE IS DEFINITELY THE EXPERT IN OUR DEPARTMENT, AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY, 18 T DOES NOT HAVE ANY SMALL CELLS IN THE CITY, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE MLA TO BE MLA TO BE, UH, SIGNED BY THE, THE CITY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY, OFF, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, MM-HMM. , I BELIEVE THAT ACTUALLY T-MOBILE DOES HAVE ONE EXISTING ON BIG OAK AVENUE. IT IS A, UH, STREETLIGHT CO-LOCATION. IT WAS ONE OF THE EARLIER DESIGNS. OKAY. YEAH. TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IN JURISDICTIONS, IF ONE GOT PLACED, IT WAS BEFORE THE MLA WAS, UH, NEGOTIATED, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IN BEFORE THE, GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR, YOU DECIDED TO GET THAT IN. SO YEAH, IT'S USUALLY YOUR OLDER ONES. YEAH. OKAY. IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST WOULD, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF IT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I, I KNOW THERE WAS AN EARLIER QUESTION REGARDING HOW LONG WE PLAN ON BEING ON THESE CELL SITES. WE'RE WE WANT TO BE THERE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. THERE IS NO END OF LIFE, UM, THE INVESTMENT THAT IS MADE TO BUILD ONE OF THESE CELL SITES. IT'S, IT'S PRICING. WE WANT TO BE THERE AS AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. SO FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, AMORTIZE IT OUT. I GOTCHA. RIGHT. . OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE TO SPEAK? WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE FROM, UM, RESIDENTS AS OPPOSED TO CARRIERS. OKAY. ANYBODY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS WITH OUR CARRIERS? WE'RE GOOD. WAIT TILL AFTER PUBLIC. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WAIT TILL AFTER. NO, I'LL WAIT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD FOR YOU NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DARRELL GASLIN. WELCOME, DARRELL. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE, UH, UH, COMMUNITY COUNCIL HERE, CITY COUNCIL, UH, I AM A RESIDENT OF, UH, THE ALARA PARK AREA, AND I AM UP ABOVE ALBERTSON'S AND ACROSS SOWELL, UH, PROBABLY A QUARTER A MILE FROM SOWELL ITSELF, [01:20:01] AND I'M ON THE HILLSIDE ALONG SLATE. AND I LIKE TO, UH, THANK THE, UH, PEOPLE FROM THE, UH, CELL PHONE COMPANIES. AND YOU BET I SPOKE TO YOU, UH, THE OTHER DAY. YEAH, THAT WAS ME ON THE PHONE. SO THANK YOU. AND SO WHAT YOU GAVE HERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION AND A LOT OF THE RESPONSES TO THAT THE CELL PHONE REPRESENTATIVES GAVE. SO I THINK THAT MAYBE FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, I'M JUST GONNA EXPRESS AREAS, TALK ABOUT AREAS. ONE OF ONE OF THOSE AREAS IS MINE AND, UH, EVEN WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND ALSO WITH VENDORS THAT COME INTO THE AREA TO SERVICE THE HOUSES FOR PLUMBING OR LANDSCAPING OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND I WAS TALKING TO ONE EXTENSIVELY ABOUT HIS CELL PHONE SERVICE, AND IT TURNED OUT THAT HE WOULD BE HAVING TO GO INTO THE STREET ON THE CURB OR SOMETIMES TO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. AND THEN MY WIFE HAS, HAD, HAS HAD EXPERIENCES WHEN TRAVELING ON THE 71, UM, THROUGH THE INDICATIONS ON THE, UH, CAR. SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. NOT HOLDING IT. AND YEAH, OF COURSE. WHAT'S YOUR WIFE'S NAME? . HELLO? UH, OH. YEAH. AND THEN, AND THEN TO GO ON THERE IS, UM, IN COSTCO, UH, I CAN'T GET A CELL PHONE SERVICE IN COSTCO IN THE STORE IS SELF THEREOR. AND THE OTHER THING IS THOUGH, I'M WAITING IN THE 25 MINUTE LINE, GETTING GASOLINE, I COULD USUALLY PASS A TIME OR DO SOMETHING ON THE CELL PHONE THERE. ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT . SO, UM, ANYWAY, I'M NOT DRIVING AT THAT TIME. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS DO HAPPEN THERE. UH, MY EXPERIENCE IS, IS THAT SOMETIMES I CANNOT MAKE A PHONE CALL OR MY, MY CALL IS NOT REGISTERED ON THE NETWORK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SEVERAL TIMES I WOULD HAVE TO PRESS SEND OR CLICK SEND, UH, ON A TEXT MESSAGE, AND IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH. AND WHEN I'M ON THE TELEPHONE WITH THE CELL PHONE TO ANOTHER PERSON ON THE CELL PHONE, UH, THE, THE VOICE GETS DISTORTED A LOT. AND SO THE MESSAGE IS LOST AND WE HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING OURSELVES. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY TOUGH THERE, UH, FOR US AS A CONSUMER. AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE HOW THESE TO CELL PHONE TOWERS LOOK. UH, AND I DO HOPE THAT THEY COME UP WITH SOME REASONABLE DESIGNS THAT WILL BE ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYBODY. YES, THERE ARE THESE VISUAL ASPECTS TO IT, BUT THEN TWO, WE NEED THE CELL PHONE SERVICE AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY SERVICE THAT WERE MENTIONED, AND, UH, MAYBE BUSINESS CALLS. MY WIFE WORKS FROM HOME AND SO SHE USES THE CELL PHONE AND JUST MAKE IT EASY. OKAY. SO I HOPE THIS THING GOES WELL BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CELL PHONE CARRIERS, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET GREAT RECEPTION. THANK YOU, SIR. AND MAKE SURE AND GIVE OUR CHIEF A POLICE YOUR WIFE'S, UH, INFORMATION. . NEXT IS JEFF FACA. HELLO, JEFF. HELLO AGAIN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CITY STAFF, FELLOW RESIDENTS. UM, MY THING THAT I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT IF WE CAN ADD INTO THIS IS THE NOTICING OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, THE ONE THAT THEY JUST DID AT BEHIND ALBERTSON'S, UM, AS WE SAW ON THE SLIDES, UH, IT CAN'T BE BUILT WITHIN 200 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND, BUT OUR NOTICING GOES OUT TO ANYBODY WITHIN 500 FEET. SO WE ALREADY LOST 200 FEET OF, UM, NOTICING GOING OUT. I THINK ON THE SOCAL CANYON, UM, ONE, WE HAD 61 NOTICES GO OUT. UM, AND JUST AS THE GENTLEMAN HERE WAS SPEAKING NOTHING IN THE AL ALTERRA COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOCAL, NOBODY GOT NOTICED ON THAT SIDE. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE VISUALLY SEEN, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. SO IF WE CAN CHANGE, UM, SOMETHING ON THE NOTICING FOR LENGTH BECAUSE OF HOW HIGH IT IS OR THE IMPACT THAT IT MAKES, SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MORE NEIGHBORS OR RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE CELL TOWERS AND EVERYTHING UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LET THE PEOPLE, UH, RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT IS THE FINAL SPEAKER CARD. OKAY. MARK, WHAT DOES THE PARAMETER, UM, FOR NOTICING? I, I KNOW WE KNOW, BUT JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S SAKE, HOW WE NORMALLY HANDLE THAT. IT'S 300 FEET UNDER STATE LAW, BUT DO WE HAVE, DO WE DO 500 FEET? WE, WE DO FOR WIRELESS. OKAY. SO, SO WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR, OUR COMMUNICATION, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL AREA, IT ONLY GOES SO FAR. WELL THEN JEFF RAISE IS A GOOD POINT BECAUSE OF THE, THE HEIGHT OF THIS PROJECT, WE, IT MAYBE IT WOULD BE SMART TO EXPAND IT CUZ PEOPLE ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE IT THAT ARE GETTING NOTICED MM-HMM. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND IT'S ON TAXPAYER [01:25:01] PROPERTY AT THE SAME TIME, UHHUH AND MAYBE THEY DESERVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE GREATER NOTIFICATION. COULD WE EXPAND IT TO AN ARBITRARY AMOUNT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, 1500 FEET, A THOUSAND FEET, THAT'S ALL. UM, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN, I MEAN THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENT'S 300, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN EXPAND IT IF YOU, YOU WANT TO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT ON THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE MM-HMM. . YEAH, YOU CAN, YEAH. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WITH RESPECT TO LOCATION ON STREETLIGHTS, AS I RECALL, WE CAN'T PROHIBIT CELL COMPANIES FROM LOCATING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. IS THAT CORRECT, JOANNE? MY REC RECOLLECTION FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. AND NOW WE OWN A LOT OF THE STREET LIGHTS. DOES THAT PRECLUDE THAT ISSUE OR NOT? WELL, THERE ARE, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA MAINLY SEE SMALLER FACILITIES GO ON THE STREET LIGHTS AND THAT MAY HAPPEN ANYWAY. AND REALLY WHAT THIS ITEM IS ABOUT IS MAJOR FACILITIES AND WHETHER YOU WANT THEM UP IN CORRECT THE HILLS OR THE OPEN SPACE OR POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT, WHICH WOULD PUT THEM MORE CLOSE OR PUT THEM CLOSER TO RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. AND SO THE SMALL, THE, THE, THE SMALLER, UM, FACILITIES AND, AND THE 5G, AGAIN, THESE GENTLEMEN KNOW IT MUCH BETTER THAN I DO, BUT, UM, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A BIG MIXTURE OF FACILITIES DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS THEY'RE DOING. BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE LARGE FACILITIES. OKAY. THAT'S MY SECOND QUESTION. WE HAVE HAD FOR YEARS, UH, HILLSIDE, UH, RIDGELINE PROTECTIONS, UH, WHICH MOST OF WHICH ARE IN OUR, UH, CITY OPEN SPACE. DOES THE LOCATION OF CELL SITES ON ANY OF THOSE AREAS, SO DO WE HAVE ANY ISSUES OR CONFLICT WITH RIDGELINE PROTECTION VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A LOCATION OF A, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY OBTRUSIVE AND AND BE SEEN FOR MILES? YEAH, NONE, NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN PROPOSED ON OUR, ON OUR PROMINENT RIDGE LINES, MOST OF OUR PROMINENT RIDGE LINES ARE LOCATED IN THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE CITY WHERE IT'S VERY SPARSELY POPULATED. MOST OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE IN THE NORTH AND CENTRAL AREA OF THE CITY. SO THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED. UM, I BELIEVE THERE IS A, A PROVISION FOR UTILITIES AND ROADS, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING STAFF WOULD ENCOURAGE AN APPLICANT TO DO BECAUSE EASILY IF YOU'RE AT THE PROMINENT RIDGE LINE, YOU CAN CERTAINLY GO, UH, 35 FEET BELOW THAT AND BE WITHIN THE RIDGE LINE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS AND STILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE WITH THE COVERAGE. AND HOW ABOUT OUR EXISTING RESERVOIRS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY PRETTY HIGH, UH, LOCATION OF CELL SITES ON THOSE ARE ATTACHED TO THOSE OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY? IS THAT AN OPTION? UM, WE, WE HAVE USED OUR, OUR RESERVOIRS, AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE REASONS WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT THE OPEN SPACES BECAUSE OUR RESERVOIRS ARE ALREADY FILLED, UM, WE'VE KIND OF REACHED CAPACITY THERE. UM, AND WE, AND I, I'LL DEF DEFER TO DANIEL, BUT IN THE PAST WE HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, UM, HER THAT WE WANNA DISCOURAGE ANY MORE THAN WE ALREADY HAVE THERE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE, SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT DO WE KNOW WHERE THE, IS THERE A STUDY BEEN MADE THAT, UH, TELLS US WHERE THE DROPPED CALLS ARE? EVERY ONE OF US, YOU, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY, OKAY, I'M GOING DOWN PEYTON, UH, SOUTH ON PEYTON, UH, NEAR FROST. AND I TELL PEOPLE, OKAY, I'M ABOUT TO GET DROPPED. AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. SO WE, THE WATERFIELD IS THE BLACK HOLE. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET THAT FROM THE PUBLIC TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE PLACES THAT ARE MOST GENERALLY, UH, BEING DROPPED. BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT MAY VARY FROM CARRIER TO CARRIER. SO I, I THINK CLEARLY WE NEED BETTER SELF COVERAGE IN THE, THE CITY. I MEAN, I STILL HAVE AN ANTIQUATED OLD LANDLINE BECAUSE I CAN BE, I CAN'T EVEN MAKE A CALL CERTAIN ROOMS OF MY HOUSE ON MY CELL PHONE WITHOUT BEING DROPPED. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT, THEN WE JUST HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, DO WE WANNA BITE THE BULLET AND ALLOW THEM IN OPEN SPACE? AND I'M INCLINED TO SAY WE HAVE TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SERVICE PEOPLE, NOT ONLY FOR CONVENIENCE, BUT THE EMERGENCY, UH, ACCESS AND FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESSES OR JUST GENERAL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR CELL PHONES IN THE TECHNOLOGY. SO, OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, MR. MAYOR A AMONG LANDLINES. YOU JUST SAID IT A FEW MINUTES AGO, NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE 'EM ANYMORE. WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW. SO, SO BECAUSE OF THAT FACTOR, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE CELL SITES. MOST DEFINITELY. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH EARTHQUAKES POSSIBILITY OR A FIRE, UM, YOU NEED COMMUNICATION FORECAST. SO WE NEED TO IMPROVE IT. SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO, UM, I SORT OF STAND BEHIND THAT. UM, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE AN OPEN SPACE, SINCE OUR TREE IS AN OAK TREE, LET'S [01:30:01] MAKE AN OAK TREE ANTENNA. I'M JUST TEASING. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING JUST AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO THE EYE. AND THAT WAS A CONUNDRUM WE FACED WHEN WE DEBATED THIS IN DECEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED ONE OF THE, UH, TOWERS JUST SOUTH OF, UH, LOS SONOS GOLF COURSE IS, IT'S, IT IS VISIBLE, BUT PEOPLE ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY COMPLAIN WE DON'T HAVE PROPER CELL COVERAGE. SO WHERE DO YOU GO? SO I THINK IF IT SOMETIMES BECOMES A CASE BY CASE BASIS, WE ANALYZE WHERE IT'S GOING IN OUR OPEN SPACE, I THINK THAT'S DOABLE. AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE BUILT ON PROMINENT RIDGE LINES OR EVEN CLOSER. I SUSPECT WE PROBABLY WON'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE FACT IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE BUILT ON RIDGE, RIDGE LINES COMPLIMENT US ON, ON BEING SO, UH, SO PROACTIVE IN THE EARLY DAYS ABOUT BANNING ON, ON SIGNIFICANT RIDGE LINES. NOW THEIR DEFINITIONS. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK IT UP TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE DEFINITIONS ARE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE TOP OF A HILL HILLS, THEN THERE'S RIDGE LINE, RIDGE LINES AND PROMINENT AREAS. AND PROMINENT KNOWLES. AND PROMINENT KNOWLES. EXACTLY. , YEAH, EXACTLY. THE, THE FAUX TREE ON GRAND AVENUE. THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO ADDRESSES, UH, YOUR CONCERN. RAY BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, NO, I WAS JUST GONNA, JUST GONNA MENTION, I GUESS I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE SAW THE LIST OF PROPOSED, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED, UM, SITES IN THE FUTURE. I GUESS WHEN, WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH, DO WE JUST LET THE FREE MARKET DICTATE HOW MANY OF THESE ARE GONNA, ARE GONNA MOVE FORWARD IN CITY OPEN SPACE? I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER DENIED ONE, HAVE WE? WELL, THE, I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY HOW MANY IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IF, HOW MANY WANNA ALLOW AN OPEN SPACE IS, IS THE COUNCIL'S DECISION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO APPROVE A LEASE FOR ANY OF THEM, AND THAT'S YEAH, UNDER YOUR SOLE DISCRETION. BUT IF THEY WANNA TAKE A, A MAJOR FACILITY AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY, THE TEST IS REALLY, IF THEY CAN SHOW THERE'S NOT COVERAGE IN THAT AREA, THEN, THEN THAT'S REALLY ALL THEY NEED TO SHOW. AND THERE IS SOME ABILITY BY THE CITY TO REACT TO THAT. BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY LIMITED. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE TO SAY, WELL, YES, BUT THERE'S A ANOTHER SITE THAT'S EQUALLY AVAILABLE THAT WOULD COVER THAT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT IT, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO. UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY WHAT'S ENOUGH, IF THEY CAN SHOW THAT THERE'S NOT, IF ANY OF THE CARRIERS CAN SHOW THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THERE'S NOT COVERAGE AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT UP A, A SITE IN ALL LIKELIHOOD. YEAH, I, IN MY MIND IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN A CITY, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYER, UH, RESOURCE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE ENTITY. I, YOU KNOW, I GET WE ALL , YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, I CAN'T EVEN USE MY PHONE HERE. I DON'T EVEN GET, GET ANY SERVICE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW. I, I JUST DON'T, I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAD STAFF AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE HAD THE, THE CARRIERS COME IN. CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER EVEN HAD A DISCUSSION ON WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT'S NOT FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TO, TO JEFF'S, UM, POINT, IF WE COULD EXPAND OUT, UH, THEN NOTICING, ESPECIALLY CUZ IT IS IN A CITY OWNED EMPTY PARCEL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, A GOOD, UH, PLACE TO START AND LET THE PUBLIC BE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. BUT THAT'S WHAT I GOT FOR YOU NOW. OR IF WE COME UP LIKE WITH SOME, LIKE PRE PRE-APPROVED, UM, BRANDON, CAN YOU MAKE MY VOLUME GO HIGHER? I DON'T USUALLY, I TALK VERY LOUD. UM, IF WE, IT SAYS SHOULD OTHER TYPES OF PHOTO DESIGNS BE USED, MAYBE LIKE, TO BRIAN'S POINT, LIKE IF AHEAD OF TIME, LIKE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO, IT'S LIKE THESE ARE THE CHOICES OR HOW MUCH ARE, WE'RE GONNA LIMIT THE DENSITY WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE CELL TOWERS. SO, BECAUSE WHAT KIND OF, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, YOU KNOW, WE APPROVE ONE AND THEN WE THOUGHT THERE WAS TOO MANY, SO THEN ANOTHER CARRIER COMES AND WE DENY IT, THEN DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE SOME LIKE LIABILITY THAT WAY THAT WE HAVE TO ACCEPT EVERYTHING? NOT IF IT'S IN THE OPEN SPACE. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S COMPLETELY THE CITY'S DISCRETION WHETHER YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO A LEASE. IT'S CITY PROPERTY. SO WHAT WHAT STAFF'S TRYING TO DETERMINE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE APPETITE, IF YOU WILL, THE COUNCIL, UM, AS FAR AS USING OPEN SPACE. AND I THINK STAFF UNDERSTANDS YOU, YOU, YOU DON'T WANT VISUAL CLUTTER OUT THERE, BUT JUST, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE UNCLEAR AS I UNDERSTOOD IT FROM PRIOR MEETINGS IS, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NUMBER YOU CAN ASSIGN, BUT ARE YOU OPEN TO THEM BEING UP THERE AND STAFF POINTED OUT REASONS WHY THEY THINK THAT THERE'S, UH, THAT THE OPEN SPACE IS A GOOD USE OR IS POTENTIALLY A BETTER AREA THAN PUTTING THEM NOT IN OPEN SPACE. AND SO I, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UM, AND JOANNE PLEASE JUMP IN, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN IDENTIFY ALL THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE [01:35:01] OKAY AND NOT OKAY. BUT I THINK IT'S MORE OF A BIG PICTURE. ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING THE APPLICANT'S TIME AND BRINGING THINGS FORWARD TO YOU THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO. BEN, MAYOR, IF I CAN, UM, JUMP IN A LITTLE BIT HEARING WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO, TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A PROCESS WHEREBY STAFF FIRST RECEIVES A, AN, YOU KNOW, AN EARLY APPLICATION AND THEN, UH, THAT DATA'S COLLECTED AND SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND THEN THERE'S A, UH, A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN, UH, A LEASE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE REALLY NEEDED TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL TO GET DIRECTION ON, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD WANT TO LEASE LAND, UH, EVEN IF WE FELT THAT THE NEED WAS OUT THERE. UM, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL KIND OF CLEARLY, AND, AND IT IT HELPS, UH, IS, IS THREE KEY AREAS, UH, THAT, THAT IF I CAN GET, UH, SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BACKUP ON, UM, WE, I'M, I THINK I'M HEARING UNIVERSALLY THAT YOU DON'T WANT THESE CELL, UH, UH, MAJOR WIRELESS FACILITIES ON PROMINENT RIDGE LINES. UH, AS WAS POINTED OUT, OUR PROMINENT RIDGE LINES HAVE SPECIFIC, UH, UH, UH, DEFINITIONS AND THEY'VE BEEN CALLED OUT IN OUR CODES. SO I THINK THAT'S CLEAR DIRECTION FOR STAFF IS, AND THAT WASN'T, STAFF WOULD'VE WOULD NOT HAVE, UH, UM, PROPOSED THAT. BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THE COUNCIL SET THAT. UM, WE'VE ALSO HEARD, UH, THAT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION BEING IN THE OPEN SPACE AND BY DESIGN 200 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THE NORMAL 500 IS, UH, UH, IS, IS NOT AS IN DEPTH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AS IT WOULD BE. I'M GONNA ASK JOANNE FOR OUR, DO WE USE ANOTHER STANDARD BEYOND 500? DOESN'T A THOUSAND FEET POP IN? OR, OR IS THERE A BENCHMARK WE COULD SUGGEST TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE NEXT NOTICING DISTANCE? IT, IT, AND TYPICALLY 500 IS ENOUGH BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE PARCELS ARE QUITE LARGE AND IT'S 500 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE PARCEL. I THINK THE CIRCUMSTANCE AT, UM, WAS IT EL TERRA THAT, THAT YOU MENTIONED? I THINK THAT ONE WAS, UM, THE PARCEL SIZE WAS JUST UNUSUALLY SMALL, BUT TYPICALLY 500 IS AMPLE BECAUSE IT GETS A MUCH LARGER RADIUS. UM, BUT IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES WE CAN EASILY MAKE THAT A THOUSAND, UM, THERE'S NO MAGIC NUMBER, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S COMFORTABLE WITH. SO HEARING THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC'S NOTIFICATION AND FOR THE COUNCIL'S COMFORT, IF WE MOVE THAT NOTICING TO 1000, THEN WE'D BE SURE TO, TO CAPTURE MORE THAN THAN THAN THE OTHER. UM, AND THEN THE LAST POINT, I THINK, UH, THIS WAS, UH, THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT DENSITY. UH, THE QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HILL, ON ALL HILLS, UH, I THINK, UH, AS, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, AND I KNOW THAT STAFF, UM, THERE'S NO MAGIC NUMBER OR OR WAY FOR US TO TELL FOR SURE. BUT I, I THINK NOW I DO UNDERSTAND AS THE CITY MANAGER, A AGAIN, HAVING A ROLE IN REVIEWING THEM EARLY ON, IS THAT IT, IT WOULD BE EASIER NOW FOR US TO LOOK ON A MAP AT THE CURRENT NUMBER OF, UH, MAJOR FACILITIES IN THE OPEN SPACE AND, AND HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UH, IT'S GOTTEN TOO DENSE IN A PARTICULAR AREA. SO THIS IS HELPFUL. UH, IT, IT'S NOT, UH, AN EXACT PRESCRIPTION OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT IS VALUABLE FOR US TO KNOW THAT WE'RE BALANCING THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, FACILITIES AND ADDITIONAL COVERAGE WITH THE AESTHETIC IMPACT OF IT. SO THAT'S AT LEAST HELPFUL FOR ME. AND I WOULD DEFER TO JOANNE, UH, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CLARITY THAT, THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME. NO, NO, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. AND AS, UM, YVETTE NOTED IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE ALREADY DO REQUIRE THAT MAJOR FACILITIES BE LOCATED A THOUSAND FEET FROM ONE ANOTHER AND 200 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL. UH, WE DO LOOK FOR CO-LOCATION, UM, BUT THAT AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT HEIGHT RESTRICTION, SO PERHAPS ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THERE AND THERE'S A TRADE OFF THAT IF WE GO HIGHER, THERE'S A GREATER VISUAL IMPACT. SO, SO MY RECOMMENDATION FOR NOW, KEEP THE CODE THE WAY IT IS, UM, WE'LL HAVE A LARGER RADIUS FOR NOTIFICATION. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE FAUX DESIGN, I WANNA SAY THE REASON WE WE WENT WITH THE WATER TANK IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE WATER TANKS HAD BEEN WELL RECEIVED. OUR COMMISSION LIKED IT, THE COMMUNITY LIKED IT. AND WHEREVER THERE ARE EXISTING TREES, WE DO GO FOR A FAUX TREE. BUT A FAUX TREE BY ITSELF LOOKS UNUSUAL. IT LOOKS, DOESN'T FIT. SO, SO WE DO TRY TO DO IT. UM, THERE ISN'T A PERFECT DESIGN, BUT THE WATER TANK HAS BEEN SORT OF FITS WITH CHINO HILLS. SO WE THINK WE HAVE A [01:40:01] NICE DESIGN, AND WE THINK WHEN THESE GO IN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE TREES MATURE, THEY'LL BLEND IN AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BECOME SORT OF INVISIBLE AFTER A WHILE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST THERE AND THEY'RE AS SMALL AS WE CAN MAKE THEM. SO WE ARE REALLY, ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN. AND ALSO BECAUSE OUR HILLSIDES, THE CITY HILLSIDES ARE THE HIGHEST PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY, IT PROVIDES THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO REACH YOUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD UP HERE? OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INPUT TO, UH, MOVE THIS ON? DO WE NEED A VOTE ON IT? OR YOU DO. AND AND SINCE THERE'S NO DIRECTION TO CHANGE THE CODE, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO JUST RECEIVE, UH, UH, THE COUNCIL'S, UH, OKAY. GUIDANCE AND, AND MOVE ON. NO ACTION IS NECESSARY. SO BEN, BEN, FOR THE THOUSAND FOOT THOUGH, THAT IS IN THE CODE, SO WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT. PERFECT. WE WILL. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. NEXT [16. GoStoreIt Self-Storage Facility, Applicant: Madison Capital Group Management, LLC - Site Plan Review 22SPR03, Conditional Use Permit 22CUP02, and Minor Variance 22MNV01 to develop and operate a multi-story, indoor self-storage facility consisting of 118,425-square foot building, 750-square feet of office space, 542-square foot lobby, 10,818-square foot parking garage on 106,315-square feet of gross storage area on vacant property located at southeastern corner of Chino Hills Parkway and Monte Vista Avenue] WE HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION MATTERS. THIS ITEM, NO ACTION IS REQUIRED UNLESS TWO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WISH TO REVIEW THE MATTER. THIS IS REGARDING THE GO STORE AT SELF STORAGE FACILITY, APPLICANT, MADISON CAPITAL GROUP MANAGEMENT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IF I CAN GET ANOTHER COLLEAGUE TO JUMP IN, UH, PULLING THIS TO HAVE A, A MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION, UH, VERSUS A APPROVAL WITHOUT VOTE. SO SURE. WHAT YOU MEAN. THIS IS ON THE GO TO GO STORE IT FACILITY. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO FOR IT WITH YOU, PETER. JUST LOOKING FOR A PRESENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC. OH, MM-HMM. . OKAY. YEAH, WE'RE GOOD. I CAN, LOOKS LIKE ALMOST EVERYBODY IS GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. IS ANYONE HERE FROM, OH, YOU GOT THE MOTION A SECOND. DO WE NEED A VOTE ON THAT TOO? NO, IT'S JUST, JUST TWO JUST TO PULL IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, GOOD. SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING. NEXT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. [17. Adopt resolution adopting findings in addendum to previously adopted Heritage Professional Center Mitigated Negative Declaration, approving General Plan Amendment 22GPA02, Site Plan Review 07SPR02 First Amendment, Tentative Parcel Map 20201, and terminating Development Agreement No. 07-01 with respect to 19.72 acres located on eastern side of Pomona Rincon Road between Chino Hills High School and State Route 71 and introduce Ordinance approving zone change to rezone vacant property to develop business park center "Bizpark" on Pomona Rincon Road entitled: “An Ordinance of the City of Chino Hills Adopting Specific Plan SP22-01 and Approving Zone Change No. 22ZC01 to Re-Zone 19.72-Acre Vacant Property Located on Pomona Rincon Road From General Commercial (C-G) to Specific Plan SP22-01,” for first reading by title only and waiving further reading] THIS ITEM IS FOR MATTERS THAT LEGALLY REQUIRE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT. WE DO HAVE SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM, IT'S TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING FIND THEM FINDINGS IN ADDENDUM TO PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION APPROVING GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 22 P A OH TWO SITE PLAN REVIEW, ZERO SEVEN S P R OH TWO FIRST AMENDMENT, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 2 0 2 0 1, AND TERMINATING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT NUMBER 0 7 0 1 WITH RESPECT TO 19.72 ACRES LOCATED ON THE EASTER SIDE, EASTERN SIDE OF POMONA, RINCON ROADE BETWEEN CHINOS HILLS, SCOTT HIGH SCHOOL, AND STATE ROUTE 71. WE'RE ALSO INTRODUCING AN ORDINANCE TO APP APPROVE ZONE CHANGE TO REZONE THE VACANT PROPERTY TO DEVELOP THE BUSINESS PARK BIZ PARK. MIKE HOFINGER WILL PRESENT THE REPORT AND PROBABLY REPEAT EVERYTHING I JUST SAID, SO , I WON'T REPEAT IT ALL. ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE UP MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, BEFORE YOU AS A BIZ PARK PROJECT, UM, VARIOUS, UH, ENTITLEMENT COMPONENTS THAT, UH, CITY CLERK HAS STATED RIGHT NOW. UH, GENERAL PLAN, AMENDMENT SPECIFIC PLAN ZONE CHANGE, UH, SITE PLAN REVIEW, AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS, UH, ATTENDED A PARCEL MAP, AND THEN TO TERMINATE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF POONA RINCON ROAD BETWEEN CHINO HILLS HIGH SCHOOL AND THE 71 FREEWAY. UH, IT'S, IT'S QUITE NARROW IN LENGTH, UH, SPANNING FROM, UH, THE RINCON COMMERCIAL CENTER, UH, ALL THE WAY PAST, UH, PICASSO DRIVE. UH, THE CURRENT, UH, GENERAL PLAN LANDING DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL, UH, WITH A GENERAL COMMERCIAL CG UH, ZONING DESIGNATION. UH, PROPERTY IS VACANT AND EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS, UH, FOR THE HERITAGE HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER INCLUDE SITE PLAN, UH, REVIEW, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, ADDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND A ZONE CHANGE. SO THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER INCLUDED, UH, APPROVALS FOR ABOUT 208,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL, UH, OFFICE CENTER, UH, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, VARIOUS MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS, UH, HOSPITAL AND, UH, SOME COMMERCIAL RETAIL. UH, IT ALSO INCLUDED A PARCEL MAP TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO SEVEN LOTS AND TWO LETTER LOTS. UH, ALSO INCLUDED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO REGULATE USES TO GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE, AND TO ALSO, UH, REGULATE AND PROHIBIT, UH, CERTAIN USES SUCH AS SERVICE USES THAT DO NOT GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE. UH, AND THEN ZONE CHANGE, UH, INCLUDED, UH, REZONING THE PROPERTY FROM FREEWAY COMMERCIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW A HOSPITAL. THE APPLICANT HD FENTON, UH, PROPOSES TO AMEND ITS CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS, UH, TO INCLUDE A BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, TOTALING 18 SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS RANGING FROM 6,000 SQUARE FEET TO 23,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, [01:45:01] TO INCLUDE OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, LIGHT MANUFACTURING WAREHOUSE, AND RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT USES. IT ALSO INCLUDES A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FROM COMMERCIAL TO BUSINESS PARK ZONE CHANGE FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO SPECIFIC PLAN S P 2201, A NEW TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP TO SUBDIVIDE INTO SIX LOTS FOR CONDO PURPOSES, AND ALSO TO TERMINATE THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UNDER THE HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER. SO THE, UH, THE PROJECT, UH, IS LAID OUT IN, UH, TWO PHASES, UM, IN A TOTAL OF FOUR PLANNING AREAS. UH, PHASE ONE, APPROXIMATELY 14 AND A HALF ACRES WILL INCLUDE PLANNING AREAS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, AND PHASE TWO, UH, ROUGHLY FIVE ACRES WILL INCLUDE PLANNING AREA THREE, UH, ACCESS. ALL ACCESS WILL BE TAKEN OFF OF POMONA RINCON ROAD, UH, VIA SEVEN DRIVEWAYS. UH, TWO OF THOSE SEVEN DRIVEWAYS WILL BE SIGNALIZE DRIVEWAYS, UH, AT THEIR MAIN ENTRANCES. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES SHARED ACCESS TO THE RINCON COMMERCIAL CENTER. UM, ALL ACCESS POINTS AND DRIVEWAY SIGNAL LOCATIONS WERE ALSO REVIEWED BY CITY ENGINEERING DIVISION IN CHINO VALLEY. FIRE. REAL QUICK ON THAT PICTURE, UH, OR MAP FAR RIGHT HAND, IS THAT A, UH, RETENTION BASIN? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, GOOD. THANK YOU. SO, PHASE ONE FOR THE THREE PLANNING AREAS, UH, PLA PLANNING AREA ONE WILL INCLUDE SIX BUILDINGS TOTALING 51,500 SQUARE FEET AND 192, UH, PARKING SPACES. AND THE DETENTION BASIN THAT YOU HAD NOTED RIGHT NOW, UH, PLANNING AREA TWO WILL INCLUDE EIGHT BUILDINGS TOTALING 62,000 SQUARE FEET AND 279 ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. AND THEN PLANNING AREA THREE, UH, WILL INCLUDE ONE BUILDING AT 23,000 SQUARE FEET IN ADDITIONAL 58 PARKING SPACES. AND, AND AGAIN, ANOTHER QUESTION, I'M, I, I WANT THE APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS ALSO. UH, WE'VE GOT THE THREE PLANNING AREAS, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE BREAKING THIS INTO SIX PARCELS FOR CONDOMINIUMIZED IN THE THE PARCELS. UH, WHAT'S THE PLAN LONG TERM? ARE THOSE GONNA BE SOLD OFF OR ARE THEY GONNA BE RETAINED IF THAT'S KNOWN AT THIS POINT IN TIME? ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I BELIEVE THEY, THE, THE INTENT IS TO SELL US OFF, BUT THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM THAT. ALL RIGHT. UH, IN PHASE TWO, UH, THE FIVE ACRES WILL INCLUDE PLANT AREA FOUR TOTAL OF THREE BUILDINGS, UH, 51,000 SQUARE FEET, AND AN ADDITIONAL 230 PARKING SPACES. UH, AMENITIES IN THE PROJECT SITE INCLUDE OUTDOOR DINING AREAS, COURTYARDS, BICYCLE RACKS, ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN WALKING PATHS, UH, ENHANCED MAIN ENTRANCES, PARKING, UM, UH, PARKING DOOR, DINING AREAS. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A MISTAKE. , I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S UP THERE, UH, IN PARKING LOT, SHADE TREES, UH, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDINGS WILL INCLUDE ENHANCED ELEVATIONS AT ALL, BUILDING EL UH, ENTRANCES, UH, VARIATION IN ROOF LINES, TWO TONE, UH, ACCENT COLORS, ANODIZED ALUMINUM FRAMING FOR WINDOW TREATMENT, PAINTED METAL CANOPIES AND PAINTED METAL CORNICE CAPS. ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT INCLUDES A SPECIFIC PLAN. UH, THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS TO ESTABLISH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE PROJECT SITE REGULATE USES FOR THE CENTER, UH, ADD LIGHT MANUFACTURING RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT USES, AND DEFINE THOSE EXACT USES, PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION AND PHASING AND REGULATE TEMPORARY USES AND EVENTS. BECAUSE THESE ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM CHINO HILLS HIGH SCHOOL. IS THERE ANY ANTICIPATION TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL, UH, PARKING ISSUES WITH A STUDENT'S PARKING IN THESE, UH, THESE, THIS DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, PART OF, PART OF THE, UH, PROJECT WILL REQUIRE A PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO THE SPECIFIC PLAN DOES REFERENCE A PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND THAT WILL BE, UH, PREPARED AND WILL ADDRESS THAT, THAT VERY ASPECT. YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT UP FRONT SO WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LIKE WE HAD FOR A WHILE, UH, ACROSS THE STREET, UH, AROUND OUR COMMUNITY CENTER. AND I THINK TO ART'S POINT AS WELL, LIKE FOR FRIDAY NIGHTS FOR GAMES, OH, THAT'S PARKING'S PRETTY BAD. IS THIS ADDRESSED IN THE PARKING MANAGEMENT? YES. THAT, YEAH, THAT WILL BE ALL ADDRESSED IN THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE, UM, SIMILAR, UH, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF REGULATIONS IN THE RING CON COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, BECAUSE YOU DO GET THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, SOMETIMES PARENTS DO, UH, PARK AT NEARBY COMMERCIAL CENTERS. SANTA BARBARA COULD BE AT THE RINCON, AND THEIR PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN DOES HAVE MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT FOR THAT AS WELL. SOUNDS GOOD. THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, ARE ALL ESTABLISHED IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN. UH, THIS TABLE JUST GIVES YOU A QUICK COMPARISON ON THE EXISTING, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE [01:50:01] BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. UH, AND AS THE, UH, PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, YOUR MEETS OR EXCEEDS THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, PARKING FOR THE PROJECT. UH, ALL FOUR PLANNING AREAS, UH, ONCE FULLY BUILT, UH, FAR EXCEED WHAT IS REQUIRED. UH, THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT WILL NEED 625 PARKING SPACES, AND WHAT'S PROVIDED IS 759. UH, SO THERE WELL WILL BE IN EXCESS OF 134 PARKING SPACES FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT. UH, WE'LL ALSO INCLUDE A RECIPROCAL INGRESS EGRESS FOR THOSE VARIOUS PARCELS THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THE PROJECT SITE. UH, AND AS WELL AS JUST PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP WILL INCLUDE TOTAL OF SIX LOTS FOR CONDO PURPOSES. UH, THE PROPERTY WILL RETAIN AND THE MAP WILL RETAIN ALL EASEMENTS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE EXISTING AT THE TIME, INCLUDING UTILITY, UH, STORM DRAINS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AS PART OF THE PROJECT, UH, WE ALSO, UH, REQUIRED A FISCAL ANALYSIS TO BE DONE. UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A INITIAL FISCAL ANALYSIS THAT WAS PREPARED BY, BY DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING AND FINANCIAL GROUP. D P F G, UH, CITY, ALSO RETAINED, UH, KAISER MARSTON, UH, FINANCIAL CONSULTANT TO PEER REVIEW. THIS ANALYSIS, UH, KAISER MARSTON, UH, INCLUDED A, UH, A COMPARISON AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SCENARIO ONE BEING THE PROPOSED PROJECT FOR BIZ PARK AND IN COMPARISON TO SCENARIO TWO, WHICH IS THE APPROVED PROJECT FOR HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER. SO THE ANALYSIS LOOKED AT VARIOUS, UH, ASPECTS OF THE FISCAL SIDE OF THINGS. UH, CITY OPERATING COSTS, UM, TAXES, UH, SALES GENERATING REVENUE, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, UM, IN THE FIRST YEAR. AS NOTED IN THIS TABLE, UH, THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, SCENARIO ONE, UH, WILL INCLUDE A NET FISCAL BENEFIT OF 58,000, ROUGHLY 58,000, UH, VERSUS THE HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER FIRST YEAR, UH, A NET FISCAL BENEFIT OF AROUND 45,000. THE ANALYSIS ALSO EVALUATED OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD, UH, IN COMPARISON FOR THE TWO, UH, PROJECTS. UH, SCENARIO ONE, UH, FOR THE BIZ PARK PROJECT, WE'LL GENERATE JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN 20 YEARS AS A NET BENEFIT, UH, IN, IN COMPARISON TO HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER, WHICH ROUGHLY ABOUT 838,000. UH, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD, THE BIZ PARK PROJECT, UH, WILL PRODUCE APPROXIMATELY 187,000, UH, MORE, UH, NET FISCAL BENEFIT COMPARED TO WHAT'S THE EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS WOULD PROVIDE GIVEN THE RESULTS OF THE FISCAL ANALYSIS. UM, THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A TERMINATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS TO REGULATE THOSE USES AND TO GENERATE AS MUCH SALES TAX REVENUE AS POSSIBLE. UH, GIVEN THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT GENERATES MORE THAN WHAT, UH, POTENTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER IS, THERE'S NO NEED, UH, TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UH, IN ADDITION, A SPECIFIC PLAN REGULATES USES, UH, AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT PROJECT SITE. UH, SO THE PROJECT INCLUDES THE TERMINATION OF THIS, UH, AGREEMENT THAT CURRENTLY EXPIRES IN FEBRUARY OF 2028. UH, THE CITY OBTAINED LLG TO PREPARE A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE PROJECT. UH, THE, THE STUDY INCLUDES ASSESSING POTENTIAL TRAFFIC AND CIRCULATION NEEDS, UH, SITE ACCESS, CIRCULATION TRAFFIC, SIGNAL WARRANTS, UH, ANALYZED 17 DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS, AND ALSO COMPARES THE PROPOSED PROJECT TRIP GENERATION VERSUS THE APPROVED PROJECT. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, HEY MIKE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES. PERTAINING TO TRAFFIC AS FAR AS, UH, THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY? UH, IT, IT DOES LOOK AT PEAK HOUR, UH, DURING THESE, UH, DURING THESE, THESE TRAFFIC TIMES. SO THIS PARTICULAR FOR DAILY TRIPS IS JUST TAKEN ON WHAT THE PROJECT WILL PRODUCE AS FAR AS DAILY TRIPS. UM, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE SERVICE LEVEL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL BASED ON, UH, YOUR PEAK HOUR. DURING THAT, IT'S TYPICALLY DURING SCHOOL PEAK HOUR. UM, A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO OUT THERE DURING SCHOOL YEAR RATHER THAN A NON, UM, YOU KNOW, SUMMER, UH, WHEN THE SCHOOL, WHEN THE SCHOOL'S NOT IN SESSION. SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU THEN, IT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE THEN DURING PEAK HOURS AS FAR AS SCHOOL TRAFFIC, IT'S NOT A BE CONCERN. OH, SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS CERTAINLY AN ISSUE, YES. YEAH. BUT WHAT THIS ANALYZES HERE, THE DAILY TRIPS IS JUST WHAT THE PROJECT ANALYZES. UM, BUT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, UH, ARE SEPARATE FROM WHAT THE DAILY TRIPS ARE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR, OUR, OUR CONSULTANT, UH, LG HERE SO HE CAN FURTHER CLARIFY, UH, YOUR [01:55:01] QUESTION. YEAH. IF I CAN GET A CLARIFICATION, SAY A PEAK HOUR IN THE MORNING SURE. AND IN THE AFTERNOON WHAT WE'RE, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF IT IS BAD, WE'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT MM-HMM. , SO IF I CAN HEAR ABOUT IT FROM THE PROFESSIONALS TODAY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT. YEP, ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL HAVE LG COME UP. OKAY. AND MIKE, TO FOLLOW THAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE, UH, PROPOSED TRIPS GENERATED ONLY BY THIS PROJECT. UH, OBVIOUSLY HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE BUSINESSES THAT MAY GO INTO THESE BUILDINGS. MM-HMM. , UH, WILL HAVE A GREAT IMPACT BASED UPON WHAT THE, UH, START TIME AND, AND UH, RELEASE TIME IS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN CHANGING THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'M, I'M ASSUMING POSSIBLY THAT THE STUDENTS WILL BE GOING INTO THAT LOCATION OR THAT AREA BEFORE THESE BUSINESSES OPEN UP. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE JUST KINDA LOOKED AT. AND IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE SOMETHING THAT PROPOSED TENANTS IN THE FUTURE WILL BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA, IT, IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE A NIGHTMARE CUZ THERE'S ONLY REALLY ONE MAJOR POINT OF, UH, INGRESS EGRESS, WHICH IS THAT LIGHTED, UH, INTERSECTION. UH, BECAUSE NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE COMING IN FROM PICASSO THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO, AND I THINK SOME OF THIS IS GONNA BE ADDRESSED LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, CUZ I WAS, I SKIPPED AHEAD. I HAVE A HABIT OF DOING THAT. YEAH. AND I SEE, SORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC PROPOSED TRAFFIC SIGNALS. SO IF WE COULD, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED. YEAH, SURE. BUT IT IS GREAT TO SEE THAT THE, UH, WHAT THE, THE POSSIBLE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE. MM-HMM. , HOW THE TRIP COUNT, THE DAILY TRIPS ARE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY ABOUT COMPARED TO WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN MM-HMM. IF THERE HAD BEEN A HOTEL THERE AND THE POSSIBLE HOSPITAL, ET CETERA. CORRECT. SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE THIS, BECAUSE PROJECT PROPERTY'S GONNA BE USED FOR SOMETHING AT SOME POINT AND JUST, JUST, JUST SEEING THESE, THESE, UH, STATISTICS REALLY, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DESIRABLE TO A PROJECT. YEP. HEY, YOU ARE CORRECT. UH, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN DAILY TRIPS AS FAR AS THE, A BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT COMPARED TO THAT COMMERCIAL OFFICE RIGHT. UH, CENTER THAT WAS GONNA BE, UH, BUILT. UH, THE TRAFFIC, UH, STUDY ALSO, UH, EVALUATED, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANTS, UM, THE NECESSITY OF, UH, MEDIAN AND ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UM, BASED ON YOUR PEDESTRIAN VE VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS. UH, THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE A MEDIANS SPANNING FROM THE, UH, THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROJECT, UH, ALONG POONA RINCON ROAD. UH, WILL ALSO INCLUDE TWO SIGNALIZED, UH, MAIN ENTRANCES. UH, ONE LOCATED AT THE CENTRAL MAIN ENTRANCE, UH, DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE CHINO HILLS HIGH SCHOOL ENTRY ONLY LOCATION WHERE THAT'S, THAT, THAT ROUNDABOUT DROP OFF. UH, AND THEN THE SECOND LOCATION, UH, WILL BE AT THE SECONDARY MAIN ENTRANCE, UH, RIGHT AT THE PICASSO, UH, INTERSECTION. YEAH. SO THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY NECESSARY AS FAR AS CONTROLLING VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS. AND TO ENHANCE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, WILL CHANGE THE LANDING DESIGNATION FROM COMMERCIAL TO BUSINESS PARK, AND THE ZONE CHANGE WILL CHANGE THE ZONING FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO SPECIFIC PLAN SP 2201. UH, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE VARIOUS STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, PREPARED UP TO THIS POINT, UM, THE, THE HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL CENTER, UH, INCLUDED A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AS PART OF THE PROJECT AND WAS ADOPTED, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2008. UH, CITY OBTAINED FIRST CARBON SOLUTIONS TO EVALUATE, UH, SQUA AND TO PREPARE TECHNICAL STUDIES. UH, THE STUDIES INCLUDE AIR QUALITY ASSESSMENT, GREENHOUSE GAS, ENERGY, NOISE IMPACT, BIOCULTURAL, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT LG PREPARED. UM, AND BASED ON THESE STUDIES, UH, THERE WERE NO NEW SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FOUND, AND THEREFORE THE, UH, AN ADDENDUM WAS PREPARED, UH, TO THAT M AND D THAT WAS ADOPTED. THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, HEARD THE PROJECT ON JANUARY 17TH, 2023 AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, UH, INCLUDING MINOR UPDATES TO DESIGN GUIDELINES IN THE PACIFIC PLAN, UH, PROHIBITING ALL AGE EXCLUSIVE ALCOHOL SALES ESTABLISHMENTS REQUIRE A MINOR USE PERMIT FOR ONSITE ALCOHOL SALES UPDATE BUILDING 18 REAR ELEVATIONS. FOR CLARITY DESIGN ON THE PLANS INCLUDE ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS AND PERSPECTIVES, UH, MODIFY CONDITION NUMBER ONE 40, UH, REGARDING POMONA RINCON, UH, MEDIAN AND DRIVEWAY LIMITATIONS BETWEEN BUILDING 16 AND 17. UH, MODIFY CONDITION NUMBER 59, CLARIFYING NAME OF FRANCHISE WASTE HAULER, AND THEN ALSO ADDING A CONDITION REGARDING ONSITE SCHOOL PARKING, WHICH WILL BE A PART OF THAT PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN. FOLLOWING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, [02:00:01] UH, WITH ADDITIONAL STAFF RESEARCH, UM, UH, STAFF ALSO IS PROPOSING TO MODIFY CONDITION NUMBER 68, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION REGARDING THAT PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN. UH, AND THEN ALSO ADDED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UH, REGARDING THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION AGREEMENT FOR THE MAP THAT WAS RECORDED FOR THE HERITAGE PROFESSIONAL STAFF. MIKE, MIKE, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YES. SO WHEN THEY WERE PROHIBITING THE KNOWLEDGE EXCLUSIVE ALCOHOL SALES, DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION BRING UP SMOKE SHOPS? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT DEFINITELY AS A PROHIBITION, BECAUSE EVEN I THINK WHEN WE TALKED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT OVER BY ARCHIBALDS THE SMOKE SHOP THERE, WHEN THAT OPENED DEFINITE AREA WHERE KIDS TRY TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, BY DIFFERENT THINGS AND ACROSS FROM A HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A LIMITATION ON SMOKE SHOPS IF THEY'RE GONNA INCLUDE THE EX, LIKE EXCLUSIVE, YOU MEAN LIKE LIQUOR STORES? RIGHT? I, EXCEPT THE ALCOHOL PORTER PART OF THIS ALSO, WE CAN DELETE THAT IF WE WISH. RIGHT. 8 21 NOW TO SMOKE. IT'S STILL 18. I'M SEEING A OKAY, I'LL LISTEN TO THE COP. IT'S 21 UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE MILITARY. ALL RIGHT. 21. SO TO BE CLEAR, MIKE, WHERE IT SAYS ALL AGE EXCLUSIVE ALCOHOL SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, THAT MEANS LIKE A LIQUOR STORE, RIGHT? NOT A RESTAURANT BECAUSE NO, THAT'S, THAT'S IN REGARDS TO LIKE A, A SPORTS BAR WHERE 21 AND OLDER CAN GO IN WHO'S LEGALLY CAN DRINK, UM, ALCOHOL. OH, OKAY. SO IT'S THOSE TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENTS. YEAH. SO LIKE A NIGHTCLUB OR SPORTS BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT LIKE A FAMILY RESTAURANT OR ANYTHING LIKE LUKE DOOR. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT DISCUSS, UH, SMOKE SHOPS OR ANYTHING. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. MM-HMM. AND MIKE, AS FAR AS ALCOHOL, IS THERE A DISTANCE BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND WHERE A BUSINESS COULD BE AS FAR AS THE DISTANCE? UH, THE, THERE'S ONLY REGULATIONS IN REGARDS TO, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, UH, USES IN REGARDS TO ALCOHOL SALES AND ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE THAT. AND THOSE ARE SPECIFIC TO THOSE AGE EXCLUSIVE ESTABLISHMENTS. SO THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL RECEIVE THE STAFF REPORT, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE APPROVING THE BIS PARK PROJECT. SO THAT WRAPS UP STAFF'S PRESENTATION. UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL STAFF QUESTIONS. UM, I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR, UH, LLG, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CLARIFY SOME TRAFFIC, UH, QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD. UM, THE APPLICANT'S ALSO AVAILABLE, THEY ALSO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU AS WELL. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, MIKE. STAY CLOSE THOUGH. YES. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD EVENING. UH, MAYOR ROGERS, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, RICH BARRETO, PRINCIPAL WITH LIN SCOTT. LONG GREENSPAN ENGINEERS, RELATIVE TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF MARQUEZ, THE TRAFFIC STUDY LOOKS AT THE WEEKDAY PEAK HOUR OF THE STREET SYSTEM. SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN HOUR BETWEEN SEVEN AND NINE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, AND THEN THE EVENING IS SOMETIME BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX. SO WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING SOME OF THE AFTERSCHOOL TRAFFIC, BUT NOT THE PEAK EXITING. UH, NEVERTHELESS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SITUATION ALONG THE FRINGE THERE, WE'RE CONSIDERING WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD DO THROUGHOUT THE DAY. RIGHT. THE SIGNAL AT PICASSO, THE MIDBLOCK SIGNAL IN TERMS OF FACILITATING INGRESS AS WELL AS PED CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE SITE AND THAT, UH, UH, BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE'RE CONSIDERING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE DAY, EVEN THOUGH THE OS LOOKS AT THE WEEKDAY COMMUTE HOURS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QU QUESTIONS? TRAFFIC? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? MAYOR, CAN YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN HE'LL, HE CAN GIVE HIS PRESENTATION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HIS PRESENTATION NEEDS TO BE AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOU HAS DO IT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WAS WAITING FOR THAT, BUT WE'LL DO IT NOW. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I, I, THIS IS A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW THE LUNAR NEW YEAR DANCE, AND I DIDN'T EVEN BRING FLOWERS FOR VALENTINE'S DAY, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SPENDING THE TIME WITH US. OKAY. YOUR TIME IS UP. YEP. SEE YOU GO . UH, MY NAME IS JOHN LOREA. I'M WITH HG M A A VICE PRESIDENT. I'VE, UM, UH, BEEN PART OF THIS PROJECT NOW FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY. I WANT TO THANK STAFF PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FOR SPENDING THE TIME ANALYZING AND UNDERSTANDING THIS PROJECT. OUR COMPANY IS A FAMILY OWNED COMPANY, FOUNDED IN 1906, AND MOST OF OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND [02:05:01] SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. WE OWN, OPERATE AND BUILD BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITIES. OUR PORTFOLIO INCLUDES ALMOST FOUR AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET OF EMPLOYMENT REAL ESTATE HOME TO OVER 1200 SMALL BUSINESSES, VERY SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT. AND TONIGHT WE'RE PLEASED TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT SUPPORTS THE LIVELIHOOD OF LOCAL WORKERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS. I'M JOINED BY A GREAT TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS WHO POOL POOLED THEIR COLLECTIVE TALENT TO REALIZE OUR VISION FOR THIS PROJECT. ROB FURY FROM HG FENTON. DAN MCDAVID FROM ARCHITECTS ORANGE. KAREN RUGGLES FROM K L R PLANNING. JULIE HOWARD FROM HOWARD ASSOCIATES. JOSH HAYES FROM C B R E. AND HEATHER RILEY FROM ALAN KINS. MICHAEL DID A GREAT JOB WITH HIS PRESENTATION ALREADY, SO I WILL MOVE THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION QUICKLY. THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION. UH, WE DID A LOT OF OUTREACH TO, UH, THE SCHOOL, UH, THE COMMERCIAL, THE RESIDENTIAL, ALL AROUND THE PROJECT, SO THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF, UH, THE PROJECT AND OUR VISION FOR IT. THE PARCELS ENTITLED, AS YOU HEARD, WITH HOSPITAL, MEDICAL OFFICE, AND RETAIL USE, WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE ENTITLEMENTS. IT IT'S MEETS THAT IMPORTANT NEED FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND USER. AND THE LARGE INDUSTRIAL USERS HAVE PUSHED OUT THE FUNCTIONAL SPACES NECESSARY FOR SMALLER COMMUNITY SERVING BUSINESSES TO THRIVE. VIS PARK CHINO HILLS WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE CENTER FOR THOSE VITAL BUSINESSES. WE BELIEVE THESE BUILDINGS WILL CREATE A COMMUNITY AND OF, OF A COLLECTION OF COMMUNITY SERVICING BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYERS THAT PROVIDE OFFICE SPACE FLEXIBILITY FOR SHOWROOMS, SMALL WAREHOUSE AND ASSEMBLY SPACE. RETAIL USES APPROPRIATE FOR NEW STARTUPS AND SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT DRIVE THE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY. THE SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY FOR SMALLER BUSINESSES TO RENT OR OWN SPACE, WHICH LEADS TO THE TRADEMARK OF SMALL BUSINESS CERTAINTY AND FLEXIBILITY. FLEXIBILITY FOR MANY BUSINESS TYPES THAT CAN ADAPT TO THE CHANGING NATURE OF RETAIL. WE'RE LOCAL MANUFACTURING AND SHOWROOM USES MERGE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN A SIMILAR PROJECT IN SAN DIEGO, WE HAVE A TENANT THAT USES A 3D PRINTER TO MAKE SUNGLASSES. HE USES THE SMALL WAREHOUSE TO STORE HIS INVENTORY TO FULFILL ONLINE ORDERS, AND ALSO HAS A SMALL SHOWROOM ON SITE. HE NEEDS THAT FLEXIBILITY TO SUCCEED. BIZ PARK CHINO HILLS OFFERS SIGNIFICANT FLEXIBILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF MANY TYPES OF SMALL BUSINESSES, FROM OFFICE TO SERVICES TO RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT TO E-COMMERCE, PROVIDING SMALL WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT WILL ALLOW LARGE ITEM RETAIL BUSINESSES, THE SPACE THEY NEED FOR STORAGE AND SHOWROOMS. WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THIS PROJECT, WE ARE PROVIDING A FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE SMALL BUSINESS SUCCESS. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. MICHAEL WENT THROUGH THIS WITH YOU. UH, ONE, SO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE IS THAT WE HAVE SHARED ACCESS TO THE RAINCON PROJECT. SO ANY TRAFFIC THAT WOULD MOVE BE BETWEEN THE RAINCON PROJECT AND OUR PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO OUT ONTO THE STREET. WE HAVE THE NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. WE HAVE THE NEW MEDIAN FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SAFETY THAT WAS MENTIONED AND THE STORMWATER TREATMENT BASIN. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. WE PUT IT UP HERE BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE CREATED THIS ENVIRONMENT OF SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WORKING HERE AND, AND THAT WILL BE HERE EVERY DAY TO STAY ON SITE, TO WALK, TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO ENJOY THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE IN. WE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT THE EXTERIOR AND, UH, SURROUNDING AREA AND LANDSCAPED, UH, ALL, ALL THE SIDES OF THE PROJECT, NOT JUST ONE ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING. I THINK I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT, UM, THE 65% REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC THAT WE MENTIONED TODAY FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPRO APPROVED PROJECT. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GETTING MORE REVENUE TO THE CITY WITH LESS TRAFFIC THAN, THAN WAS PLANNED. WE ALSO INCREASED SAFETY WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND MEDIANS AND PROVIDED MORE PARKING THAN WERE REQUIRED FOR, FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY. I MENTIONED, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PI UH, POINT ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT OUR VISION OF PROVIDING A SPACE FOR SMALL BUSINESS IS STARTING OFF WELL. UH, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE AT RANON, THE CHINO HILLS CHAMPION, AND WE RECEIVED TWO INQUIRIES ALREADY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS ASKING WHEN THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE AND READY FOR THOSE TENANTS. FOR US, THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING. BEFORE WE'RE, WE'RE OUT THERE ACTUALLY DOING ANY WORK, SO, UH, APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE TIME THAT WE'VE HAD HERE TODAY. I DID WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION INPUT, AND WE DID RECEIVE THE UNANIMOUS VOTE AND THERE WERE SOME CONDITIONS THAT CAME WITH THAT. ONE [02:10:01] WAS RESTRICTING THE LEFT TURN OUTTA THE DRIVEWAY BETWEEN BUILDING 16 AND 17. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. SECOND ONE, PROHIBIT ALL ALCOHOL BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS, AGE RESTRICTED 21 AND OVER. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. THE THIRD ONE IS THE ONE WE WE WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT IN REVISE. IT WAS THERE WAS A REVISION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED IN THE USE MATRIX TO REQUIRE A MINOR USE PERMIT FOR ALL OF THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS SELLING ALCOHOL. SO THIS IS EXACTLY, UH, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RETURN BACK TO A P. SO WE HAD, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IS ONSITE AS PART OF A NON AGE-RESTRICTED RESTAURANT, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKS US TO MAKE THAT A MINOR USE PERMIT. WE'D LIKE TO RETURN THAT TO THE P AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. REASON BEING, AGAIN, THAT FLEXIBILITY AND CERTAINTY FOR THAT SMALL BUSINESS THAT HAS A RESTAURANT SAY THAT WANTS TO SERVE ALCOHOL, HE KNOWS SHE KNOWS THAT IT'S PERMITTED AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPLY AND GO THROUGH A SEPARATE STEP IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ALCOHOL IN THEIR RESTAURANT. WITH THAT, THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I'VE GOT A QUICK ONE. YES. I GUESS JOANNE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE REQUESTED, UH, CHANGE REGARDING ALCOHOL, WHAT IS THE, THE RENON, UH, I GUESS WHAT, I GUESS HOW WAS THAT SET UP SINCE IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE SHARING A PARKING LOT AND I KNOW LUCHA DOOR'S THERE AND YEAH. OUR COMMERCIAL CODE ALLOWS RESTAURANTS TO HAVE ALCOHOL SALES AS A PERMITTED USE. UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FELT BECAUSE THIS WAS ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT IT SHOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION. THAT IS WHY THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THE MINOR USE PERMIT. OKAY. LUCHADOR ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL EFFECTIVELY ALSO. YEAH, EXACTLY. WELL, MY FIRST, MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS GET PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED MORE RESTAURANTS. WE NEED MORE RESTAURANTS. ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTH END OF TOWN. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LUCIDO AND LIKE THE VIOLET ROOSTER, THEY'RE OWNED BY CHINO HILLS RESIDENTS. SO SOME SMALL BUSINESSES, IT'S GONNA BE VERY PROHIBITIVE IF THEY WANNA OPEN A LOCAL RESTAURANT AND THEY'RE A MOM AND POP AND NOT A CHAIN IS ONE OF MY FIRST THOUGHTS. SO YEAH, SAME. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. AND I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, UH, SALES TAX, UH, REVENUE GENERATION. IS THERE A WAY TO REQUIRE, LIKE YOUR SUNGLASS, UH, COMPANY, FOR EXAMPLE, TO MAKE THAT POINT OF SALE FOR THAT COMPANY BE IN CHINO HILLS VERSUS FOR HEADQUARTERS TYPE MM-HMM. . YEAH. VERSUS SOME OTHER WAY JUST PUTTING IT INTO THE STATE POOL. IF IT'S A RETAIL SALE, WE WOULD BE THE POINT OF SALE. SO WE WOULD COLLECT THAT. SO WHERE WE COLLECT, UM, WHERE IT BECOMES A GOES INTO THE POOL IS WHEN IT'S A MORE REGIONAL FACILITY OR DISTRIBUTION FACILITY, BUT ANY SALE THAT OCCURS, A RETAIL SALE, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE A ECOMMERCE, WE'RE POINT OF SALE. IT'S FOR WHOLESALE. THAT WOULD NOT BE THE POINT OF SALE OR MAY NOT BE THE POINT OF SALE. BUT RETAIL, THE POINT OF SALE IS CITY OF CHINO HILLS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL BRING UP SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT UP WITH OUR ONLINE MEETING, UH, RECENTLY. THE, THE FAMOUS WORD THAT, UH, THAT I BROUGHT UP, WAREHOUSE. CAN YOU MORE CLEARLY DEFINE THE TERM YOU'RE USING WAREHOUSE VERSUS WHAT WE'RE USED TO HEARING ABOUT IN CHINO, ONTARIO, ET CETERA? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, AS WE PAINT THE VISION OF WHAT USER WOULD BE HERE, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AVERAGE SIZE FROM 6,000 TO 23,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S NOT YOUR WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION, SIZE BUILDING. IT'S NOT EFFICIENT FOR THAT. IT DOESN'T OPERATE LIKE THAT. SO AS, AS WE THINK ABOUT WHO THAT IS, IT'S THAT SUNGLASS GUY THAT, THAT HAS THE SHOWROOM IN THE FRONT, THAT, THAT MANUFACTURERS HAS SOME BOXES OF SUNGLASSES IN THE BACK THAT CAN SHIP OUT. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE STORED IN THE BACK, BUT IT'S NOT A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION FACILITY BECAUSE THE, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO BE THAT WAY. I KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SENSITIVE. WE'VE BEEN ANALYZING A PARTICULAR STREET, CARBON CANYON ROAD WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PROHIBIT FIVE AXLE AND LARGER VEHICLES, AND I'M TRYING TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT SIZE OF A TRUCK. A BIG AMAZON DELIVERY TRUCK THAT I TOOK A PHOTO OF RECENTLY IS TURNING ONTO CARBON CANYON ROADS, FIVE AC, FIVE AXLES. IT WAS A HUGE TRUCK. I JUST CAN'T SEE THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLES ON THIS ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH, YEAH. AGREED. YEAH, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS. YES, SIR. UH, I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THE HERITAGE WAS APPROVED. I WILL TELL YOU, JUST POINT BLANK, THIS IS A FAR BETTER PROJECT. [02:15:01] UH, THE TRAFFIC COUNT, THE REDUCTION OF 65% OF POTENTIAL TRAFFIC COUNT AND, AND THE EFFECTS ON THAT AREA IS, UH, TREMENDOUS. THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. UM, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT MUCH OF YOUR PARKING IS NOT GONNA BE, YOUR SETBACKS ARE GONNA BE FOR THE BUILDINGS. YOU'RE GONNA BE RIGHT OFF OF POMONA RINCON ROAD. UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PARKING THAT MAY BE ADJACENT TO THE FRONTS OF THE, THE, UM, NORTH AND SOUTH FACING BUILDINGS, BUT ON THE OTHERS, YOU HAVE BASICALLY A PARKING LANE IN BETWEEN WHERE THE PARKING'S GONNA BE. I THINK THAT WILL BE SOMEWHAT OF A DETERRENT FOR THE, UH, STUDENTS TO GO THROUGH AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE BUILDINGS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THEIR PARKING. SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD, GOOD THING. UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL USE IN THE FUTURE ABOUT THE CONDO BREAKDOWN ON THIS. UH, ARE YOU AT LIBERTY TO SAY, WHAT'S YOUR, AFTER YOU GET ENTITLEMENT, WILL YOU BE BUILDING THIS FOR YOUR OWN COMPANY'S USE AND THEN POTENTIAL SALE, OR CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT THAT THOUGHT IS? YEAH, SO, UH, IF, IF THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH A LOCAL, UM, BUILDER AT THAT POINT TO IMPLEMENT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T WORKED AT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF SALE OR HOLD OR, OR PARTNERSHIP OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT, UM, WE DON'T OPERATE IT IN THIS MARKET FROM A CONSTRUCTABILITY PERSPECTIVE. SO WE WOULD PARTNER WITH SOMEONE HERE. YEAH, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S NO PROBLEM. AND OBVIOUSLY SINCE THAT PROJECT, WE HEARD IT IN 2007, UH, IT JUST WASN'T GONNA GO THERE. I MEAN, IT JUST, NOTHING WAS GONNA GO, SO THE ECONOMY, UH, WASN'T GONNA PERMIT THE PRIOR APPROVED DEVELOPMENT TO GO THERE. SO THIS IS A NEW AND IMPROVED DEVELOPMENT. UH, I'M VERY PLEASED WITH LOOKING AT IT. UH, I KNOW WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFOREHAND BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE BIASED. UH, BUT SEEING THIS, I'M, I'M REALLY THRILLED WITH THIS BY COMPARISON TO THE FORMER, UH, DEVELOPMENT. SO KUDOS TO YOU GUYS. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF PLANNING AND, UH, I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT COULD BE THERE. SO IT'S THE MINIMUM IM IMPACT, AND YET I THINK TOTAL BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU. WHEN I HAD MY ONLINE MEETING, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS FROM THE 71 POINT OF VIEW. YEAH, I BROUGHT THAT UP TOO. SO, UH, CAN YOU MM-HMM. TALK ABOUT THAT ASPECT? IS IT THE BACKSIDE OF BUILDINGS AND MM-HMM. , ROLL UP DOORS, ET CETERA? YEAH, WE, WE WERE COGNIZANT AND CAREFUL TO DESIGN FOR SIGHTED ARCHITECTURE. WE, WE KNOW THE VISIBILITY FROM ALL FOUR SIDES IS IMPORTANT. WE KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF EYES THAT ARE DRIVING BY AND LOOK AT IT. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US. FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE ADDS THE VALUE, SO IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO PUT ON SITE. YEAH. YEAH, IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR THAT. YEAH. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE VISUAL IMPACT FROM THE, UH, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL BE GOING DOWN, UH, THE 71 AND LOOKING AND SAYING, OH, I'VE GOTTA GO OVER THERE AND LOCATE A BUSINESS THERE. SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE AS WELL. YEAH. GREAT. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, REAL FAST, THE HIGH SCHOOL BASICALLY HAS WAY IN AND WAY OUT. SO THESE SIGNALS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN WILL BE CONDUCIVE TO THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. YES. OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN HOW MANY BUILDINGS ARE THERE? YOU SAID 16, 18. 18. DO EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE ITS OWN WATER METER , OR IS THERE A MASTER METER? LET ME TURN TO MY ENGINEER TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION. QUESTION. MASTER METER WITH SUB METERS. SO WITH SUB METERS. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. . I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION. UM, IN TERMS, SINCE IT IS BEING BUILT NEXT DOOR TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, HOW DO WE ADDRESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, LIGHT POLLUTION OR, YOU KNOW, UM, THE IMPACT AT NIGHTTIME FROM A BRAND NEW, YOU KNOW, A BRAND NEW BUSINESS PARK BEING BUILT NEXT TO THESE HOMES? YEAH. AS PART OF OUR STANDARD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE REQUIRE PHOTOMETRIC STUDY OF WHERE THE LIGHTS ARE GOING TO GO, WHEN, WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED. SO THAT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE LIGHTS SHINE INTO THE SITE AND NOT OUTSIDE THE SITE. COOL. THANK YOU. JUST LIKE WHEN THE STADIUM IS LIT. YEAH. YEAH. BURN YOUR RODS AND CONES IN YOUR EYES. EXACTLY. ANYTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OF OUR ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONALS NEED TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SO ANYBODY, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK? WE DO. OKAY, LET'S GO WITH THOSE FIRST. JOSH HAYES. HELLO, I'M JOSH HAYES, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT AT, UH, C B R E. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERING THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING PROSE BY HD FENTON. FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS, I'VE REPRESENTED DEVELOPERS AND [02:20:01] BUSINESSES IN THE CHINO HILLS AREA. FROM THAT EXPERIENCE, I CAN SAY THERE'S A DEMAND FROM THESE GROUPS FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BEING PROPOSED FROM THAT EXPER IN. IN FACT, SINCE 2008, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE SMALL BUILDING DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, WHICH WAS 100% PRE-COMMITTED. MUCH OF THE INSTITUTIONAL DEMAND FOR DEVELOPMENT IN RECENT YEARS HAS BEEN FOCUSED AROUND BIGGER BOX DEVELOPMENT. DUE TO THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS PROPERTY, THE IDEAL DEVELOPMENT IS FOR SMALL BUILDING DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND SERVICE BUILDINGS, UH, FOR SMALLER, UH, BUSINESSES, WHICH IS WHAT FENTON IS PROPOSED HERE. SO GIVEN MY FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THERE'S DEMAND FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ONE MORE SPEAKER CARD. JEFF VACCA. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. JEFF VACCA, UM, 33 YEAR RESIDENT OF TINO HILLS IN SOUTHERN TINO HILLS. AND IT'S JUST GREAT TO SEE A DEVELOPMENT THAT I THINK IS A WIN FOR THIS CITY. UM, AS I SAID, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS. IT'S BEEN EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS COME IN THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY CAN USE, BE IT, UM, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL STORES, AND THAT TYPE OF ITEMS. UM, AS I DID ATTEND THE PLANNING MEETING, UH, COMMISSION MEETING, I DID PERUSE THROUGH THE 3,500 PAGES. I WON'T SAY I READ ALL OF THEM, BUT, UM, I DID LOOK AT THEM. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF CAR TRAFFIC THAT'LL BE REDUCED IN THIS WOULD BE GREAT. I KNOW THAT, UM, WE JUST, UM, BRIEFLY MENTION THE IDEA OF A THIRD HOTEL, I DON'T THINK IS WHAT WE NEED THERE. UH, THE CAR TRAFFIC WITH A HOSPITAL OR MEDICAL IS NOT WHAT WE NEED THERE, SO THIS IS THE RIGHT THING. AND TO GO TO, UH, YOUR COMMENT, MAYOR, UM, I HAVE ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES. I'VE BEEN LOCATED IN CHINO HILLS FOR EIGHT YEARS. WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN THE FRONT AND WE HAVE A, A SMALL WAREHOUSE IN THE BACK. WE DO DISTRIBUTION, UM, AND WARRANTY REPLACEMENT PARTS. THE PEOPLE WHO BUY STUFF AND SOMETHING BREAKS, HEY, I NEED THIS WIDGET SENT OUT TO ME. WE DON'T HAVE BIG TRUCKS. WE HAVE A LITTLE BROWN OR WHITE UPS OR FEDEX TRUCK THAT COMES BY, PICKS IT UP, TAKES IT TO, TO THE CUSTOMER. SO IT'S A PERFECT USE FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN ALSO, AS YOU SAID, MAYOR, UM, IF WE DON'T DEVELOP THIS TODAY, MY FEAR IS THAT SIX YEARS FROM NOW WE DO ANOTHER HOUSING ELEMENT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING THERE. SO I THINK THIS IS JUST A WIN. UM, AS, UM, VICE MAYOR MORAN SAID, ANYTHING WE CAN BRING IN SOME MORE RESTAURANTS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN USE WOULD BE A PLUS. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THOSE BUSINESSES WOULD BE WONDERFUL. SO LOOK FORWARD TO THIS BECOMING PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THE ROAD. SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. JEFF, HAVE YOU CUT A DEAL TO AT LEAST ONE OF THEIR BUILDINGS? SOUNDS GOOD. BE DOWN THE ROAD. . I'VE THOUGHT SO. THAT'S WHAT I HAD HEARD. THAT'S OUR FINAL SPEAKER. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT BEFORE WE YES, WELCOME RONNIE. GOOD EVENING. UH, MAYOR ROGERS. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, STAFF, UM, AND, UH, PEOPLE AT HOME. I DID NOT PLAN ON SAYING ANYTHING TODAY. IN FACT, I'M KIND OF LIKE BEING MUTED. I JUST TURNED 80, SO I'M BEING MORE CAREFUL. MAKE SURE I CAN ALLY, UH, SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY. UH, I HAVE A SON THAT HAS A HOME NEAR THE, UH, RINCON STREET, AND I JUST HAD ONE SINGLE SIMPLE QUESTION, CUZ HE'S GONNA BE ASKING ME TWO NEW SIGNALS GOING NORTH SOUTH. ARE THEY GONNA BE SE UH, ARE THEY, HOW ARE THE LIGHTS GOING TO BE TIMED? ARE, IS IT GONNA BE SE SEQUENTIAL OR ARE THEY GONNA GO HIT ONE LIGHT? WAIT, HIT ONE LIGHT. WAIT, HIT ONE LIGHT. WAIT, I KNOW RAY ASKED THE QUESTION, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. THEY WOULD BE SYNCED PROPERLY FOR, UH, FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. YOU WHAT? I MEAN ABOUT 80, BUT Y'ALL GOT THE ANSWER I NEEDED. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BRING IT BACK UP TO THE DIAS FOR DISCUSSION AND OR VOTE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S FUNNY, YOU GO TO THESE CONFERENCES AND YOU TALK TO PEOPLE AND THEY ASK YOU, WELL, WHAT DO YOU MAKE IN CHINO HILLS? OR WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE OUR GREATEST, UH, EXPORT REALLY. AND THEY GO TO BUSINESS PARKS LIKE THIS AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY OR IN OTHER PARTS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO HAVE SOMETHING HERE, I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY A BETTER USE THAN IT WAS GONNA BE. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ONE ISSUE THAT WAS PENDING. I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP TOO. SO STAFF HAD MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS DEVIATED FROM A LITTLE BIT WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. LET ME CALL THAT SLIDE UP AGAIN, [02:25:01] THAT THEY WERE, AND COULD WE PULL THAT SLIDE UP? I THINK IT WAS HIS SLIDE. BRANDON'S LOOKING FOR IT. GOOD. YES. THANK YOU. GO TO THE NEXT ONE. MINOR USE PERMIT. YEAH, THERE IT IS. YEAH. SO THE ONE BEFORE, I WANT THE OTHER SLIDE BEFORE THAT ONE. THANK YOU. SO THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO GO BACK TO WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS MM-HMM. ON THE LAST ONE, THE REQUEST CHANGED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT ALSO TO GO BACK TO THE, SO I, UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE ITEM WITH THAT AMENDMENT. YEAH, NO, I, I WAS JUST, I THINK JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE, I, I DON'T THINK WE NORMALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, STAFF, UH, SUGGESTED CHANGE USE. SO YEAH, TO GO BACK TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED. THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE MOVING IT, I'LL SECOND IT. WELL WORRY. MR. MAYOR, I GOT A QUESTION. YES, YES. ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LIKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I KNOW THE SANTA BARBARA DEVELOPMENT BY LEWIS. UH, WE HAVE SOME REALLY NICE RESTAURANTS THERE, BUT PARKING IS, UH, WE NEED PARKING. SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. I THINK IT WAS SMART. UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME GOOD BUSINESSES IN THERE AND HAVING ADDITIONAL PARKING, I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT. YEAH. SO THIS IS GONNA BE AN OUTSTANDING PROJECT. IT, IT LOOKS SO THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND, CORRECT? YES. YES. PERFECT. EVERYBODY ELSE? GOOD? OKAY, THEN WE'RE VOTING. SO DO YOU HAVE TO CLARIFY THOUGH, THOUGH? I DID. I WAS LOOKING AT JILL AND ME. OKAY. YEAH, THAT MOTION IS WITH THAT ONE. YEAH. MOTION PASSES. FIVE ZERO. OKAY. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO CHINO HILLS. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. IT SHOULD BE NICE. THANK YOU. SO WHEN'S THE GROUNDBREAKING ? GOOD QUESTION. WE ALREADY STARTED. THERE WE GO. LIKE IT ENTITLEMENTS FIRST. NOW YOU FIND SOMEBODY TO BUILD IT, RIGHT? AND CAN ONE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BE CALLED HUSKY HIGHWAY? I'M CORNY. LIKE A YELLOW, LIKE, LIKE BULLDOG. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. LOOK AT DAVE'S HOUSE. CYNTHIA, THE ONE YELLOW BULLDOG BULLDOG WAY, RIGHT? WOULDN'T THAT BE CUTE? HUSKY HIGHWAY. HUSKIES HIGHWAY. I DON'T CARE. HUSKY. HUSKY. OKAY, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS NICOLE. LET'S MOVE [ PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER REPORT] ON TO OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER REPORT. THANK YOU MAYOR ROGERS. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. JUST A FEW QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS. FREE COUNTY RUN VACCINE EVENTS. CONTINUE TO BE HELD ON SELECT TUESDAYS OF THE EACH MONTH AT THE MCCOY CENTER FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:30 PM AND BLOOD DRIVES CONTINUE EVERY TUESDAY FROM 12 TO 5:00 PM AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER PARKING. LOT MORE INFORMATION AND DETAILS ON HOW TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT CAN ALWAYS BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND RECREATION NEWS. WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE THAT WE ARE NEARING THE END OF PHASE ONE OF THE COMMUNITY PARK REHABILITATION PROJECT. THE PARK WILL REOPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH, AND THE CITY WILL THEN BEGIN PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WILL LAST THROUGH AUGUST, 2023. DURING PHASE TWO, THERE WILL BE NO PARK OUR PARKING LOT CLOSURES. HOWEVER, RESIDENTS MAY NOTICE SOME MINOR IMPACTS AS STAFF AND CONTRACTORS WORK TO ASSEMBLE NEW PORTABLE FENCING AND INSTALL A NEW WATER BOTTLE REFILL STATION. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. LADY BEWARE OF SELF-DEFENSE COURSES. THIS SAFETY COURSE HELPS WOMEN DEVELOP THE ATTITUDE, SKILLS, AND KNOWLEDGE TO HELP PREVENT THEM FROM BECOMING THE VICTIM. PROCESS ARE HELD ON SELECT SATURDAYS OF EACH MONTH, NOW THROUGH JUNE FROM 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AT THE SHERIFF'S TRAINING CENTER. ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED CAN LEARN MORE AND REGISTER BY EMAILING LADY BEWARE SBC SD.ORG. AND LASTLY, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT CITY FACILITIES AND THE LIBRARY WILL BE CLOSED FOR PRE DAY ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH. AND TRASH SERVICE IS NOT AFFECTED. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB, MAYOR. IF I MIGHT, YES. UM, TOMORROW FOUR O'CLOCK, WHAT HAPPENS? YES. COMMUNITY PARK ACTUALLY OPENS, WHAT NICOLE IS REFERRING TO IS WHEN THE ENTIRE PROJECT OR ALL OF THE FIELDS BECOME AVAILABLE AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? FIELD TWO HAD FALLEN BEHIND SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF COURSE INCLEMENT WEATHER AND SOME STAGING AND SUCH. BUT, UM, YEAH, THE GROUPS ARE NEEDLESS TO SAY, ARE VERY EXCITED. TOMORROW IS THE DAY THAT WE OPEN UP AND, UM, THERE'LL BE SOME, UM, UH, BASICALLY UNTIL THAT 24TH, UH, UNTIL 4:00 PM THE PARK WILL REMAIN CLOSED AT THAT POINT. SO THE CONSTRUCTION FOLKS CAN CONTINUE THEIR WORK. GOOD WORK, BUT IT LOOKS UNBELIEVABLE. AND IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO OVER THERE, IT, UH, IT IS, UH, ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY. SO, THANKS. WE'LL, PROGRAMMING START IN TERMS OF PRACTICES, CUZ I'M, I'VE GOT A VESTED INTEREST IN PONY GETTING SOME FIELD TIME TOMORROW. TOMORROW AT, AT FOUR O'CLOCK. OKAY, GOOD? YEP. ALL [02:30:01] RIGHT, [ SAFETY UPDATES - Fire and Police] CHIEF WILLIAMS. UH, GOOD EVENING. UH, MAYOR OS AND COUNSEL. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO INFORM THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS RELATED TO AMBULANCE SERVICES. THAT'S STILL THE BIG TOPIC FOR US. UH, THE RFP IS DUE AT THE END OF MARCH. UH, AT SOME POINT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF MAY, THEY'LL BE AWARDING THAT CONTRACT. SO WE REMAIN HOPEFUL. UH, WE BELIEVE WE'RE, UH, WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNER AND WE'RE IN GOOD POSITION, SO WE'LL JUST KEEP WORKING TOWARDS THAT. UH, WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, WE'LL BE PLAYING, BE BRINGING OUR PLANS, UH, TO THE CITY'S CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR STATION 68. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DRIVE DOWN PEYTON. AND, UH, WE'VE, UH, HAD A CHANCE TO PUT THE, UH, THE ELEVATION RENDERING ON TOP OF THE SIGN WITH THE NAMES. AND IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, GETTING THAT PROJECT STARTED AND DONE, UH, UH, SOMETIME IN THE, UH, EARLY FALL OR LATE SUMMER OF 24. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IT. UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT DAY ON FEBRUARY 22ND. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? ALL GOOD. POLICE CHIEF GARTH, WHAT'S UP? GOOD EVENING. MAYOR ROGERS, VICE MAYOR BRA COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND RESIDENCE ON JANUARY 2ND, 2023. THE RAINBOW KIDS HAIR STYLING BUSINESS WAS BURGLARIZED. THROUGH ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION AND UTILIZING THE A L P R CAMERAS, DEPUTIES IDENTIFIED A VEHICLE AND DAVID YAIB FROM CHINO AS A SUSPECT. ON FEBRUARY 3RD, DEPUTIES SERVED A SEARCH WARRANT AND RECOVERED STOLEN PROPERTY TO INCLUDE A DESK COMPUTER, A GUMBALL MACHINE, AND A 55 INCH TELEVISION THAT WAS STOLEN FROM THE HAIR SALON. YAKI WAS ARRESTED AND TRANSPORTED TO THE WEST VALLEY DETENTION CENTER FOR BOOKING ON FEBRUARY 1ST. DEPUTIES WERE DISPATCHED TO THE HOBBY LOBBY FOR A THEFT IN PROGRESS. DEPUTIES ARRIVED, SET UP A PERIMETER AND CAPTURED BOTH SUSPECTS. LEAVING THE STORE WAS STOLEN PROPERTY. THE SUSPECT'S WERE IDENTIFIED AS 56 YEAR OLD JACQUELINE DOCA AND 43 YEAR OLD EFRAN SALGADO, BOTH FROM CORONA. BOTH SUSPECTS WERE ARRESTED FOR BURGLARY AND POSSESSION OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. BOTH SUSPECTS WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE WEST VALLEY DETENTION CENTER FOR BOOKING ON FEBRUARY 3RD, DEPUTIES WERE DISPATCHED TO THE LOWE'S FOR A THEFT IN PROGRESS. DEPUTIES CONTACTED 43 YEAR OLD CINDY CABRA, 41 YEAR OLD OSCAR IBANEZ, AND 39 YEAR OLD LEONARDO GARCIA. ALL FROM LA SUSPECTS WERE CONTACTED OUTSIDE THE STORE WITH STOLEN MERCHANDISE. ALL THE SUSPECTS WERE ARRESTED FOR VANDALISM AND BURGLARY FROM LOWE'S AND ALSO TRANSPORTED TO THE WEST VALLEY DETENTION CENTER. I'M ALSO PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE FILLED OUR THIRD SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER POSITION. THAT SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER WILL BE WORKING A FIVE DAY A WEEK SCHEDULE AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BOTH JUNIOR HIGHS AND ALL THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE CITY. AND HE STARTS, UH, ON FEBRUARY 27TH. OKAY, GREAT. ALSO, DURING THE MONTH OF JANUARY'S DEPUTIES ISSUED 419 TRAFFIC CITATIONS AND MADE SIX DUI ARRESTS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. OKAY, THANK YOU. IS IS THE SRO ALREADY FROM OUR STATION OR IT SOMEONE NEW TO? HE'S ALREADY FROM OUR STATION. OKAY. WONDERFUL. GOOD. EXCELLENT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO COUNSEL [ COUNCIL REPORTS Mayor Rogers Chino Basin Desalter Authority Board Vice Mayor Moran Cal Cities (League of California Cities) Environmental Quality Committee Omnitrans Board Southern California Association of Governments Energy and Environment Committee Council Member Bennett Chino Valley Independent Fire District Board Chino Valley Unified School District Board California Institution for Men and Women’s Citizens Advisory Committees Council Member Johsz Legislative Advocacy Committee Council Member Marquez Cal Cities (League of California Cities) Public Safety Committee San Bernardino County Transportation Authority Board of Directors General Policy Committee Metro Valley Study Session Transit Committee Southern California Association of Governments Regional Council Transportation Policy Committee Southern California Regional Rail Authority (Metrolink) Board of Directors Contracts, Operations, Maintenance and Safety Committee] REPORTS. UH, LOOKS LIKE I'M, FIRST UP, AND THIS WILL BE A VERY QUICK ONE, CHINO DESAR AUTHORITY. UM, WE AWARDED CONTRACTS FOR, UM, JUST VARIOUS CONTRACTS. THERE'S NO NEED TO GO INTO DETAILS. CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS, UM, PRODUCT CONTRACTS FOR MATERIALS. AND, UM, THAT'S IT. VERY SIMPLE. WE'LL CONTINUE ON MINE. TWO PETER. SIMPLE. THE ONLY ONE OF THE THREE I NEED TO REPORT ON OF SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT OR INTEREST. SO ON THE S GAG, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, WE HAD A, AN EXPERT PANEL SPEAK ON, UM, BROWNSFIELD, WHICH IS HOW YOU USE THE CONTAMINATED SITES IN CITIES, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND IT JUST BROUGHT TO MY MIND AGAIN ABOUT AERO JET AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. SO IF MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE COULD GET AN UPDATE OR SOMETHING. SO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. SO MUCH PROPERTY UP THERE AND IT'S BEEN DRAGGING FOR A LONG TIME. SO JUST, OKAY. CURIOUS. HE WAS LOOKING AT JOANNE MAYBE. WE'LL, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, RAY. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. LET'S GO WITH CAL CITY'S FIRST PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I GET TO CHAIR THIS A WONDERFUL COMMITTEE. WE HAVE TOTAL MEMBERS OF 64 MEMBERS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. OUT OF THE 64, 46 ARE ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND OUT OF THE 46, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 30 NEW MEMBERS. THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT COMMITTEE TO GET ON FOR WHATEVER REASON. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS THIS TIME, WHICH IS NICE. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT PROPOSITION 46 AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A PANEL DISCUSSION. WE HAD GUEST SPEAKERS, UH, FROM THE POLICE CHIEF'S ASSOCIATION, MR. FELDMAN, AND THEN ALSO RACHEL LIN, PRESIDENT [02:35:01] OF THE CALIFORNIA RETAILS ASSOCIATION. UM, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THIS JUST ON THE BALLOT LIKE WE DID LAST TIME, WHEN ACTUALLY THIS GOT APPROVED BY THE, THE VOTERS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT TO THE LEGISLATORS, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL. AND WE'RE HOPING FOR THEM TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. AND THEN WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN EITHER 2024 OR 2026 WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO PUT PENALTIES ON THE CRIMES THAT ARE BEING COMMITTED. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. UH, REVIEWED CALC CITY'S ADVOCACY PRIORITIES. NUMBER ONE IS HOMELESSNESS. HOUSING IS NUMBER TWO, PUBLIC SAFETY'S NUMBER THREE. AND FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, MEANING LOCAL CONTROL. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. S B C T A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, HYDROGEN FUEL UPGRADE PROJECT FOR THE ARROW LIGHT RAIL. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. A REGIONAL EARLY ACTION PLANNING 2.0 GRANT TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS TO H C D FOR FUNDS AWARDED TO THE SB COG HOUSING TRUST. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ESTABLISH IN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY. THE GENERAL POLICY COMMITTEE, WE, WE REVIEWED MEASURE I ESTIMATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24 ALLOCATION FOR PLANNING. WE'RE EXPECTING A 2.88% INCREASE ON MEASURE I UH, REVENUES COMING IN. UH, WE REVIEWED 20 23, 24 BUDGET ASSESSMENT AND THE DUES. WE VOTED ON AMENDMENT TO SB COG BYLAWS REGARDING STIPENDS TO BE INCREASED. UH, I BELIEVE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS PER, UM, PER MONTH METRO VALLEY STUDY SESSION. WE DID A BUDGET OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24. WE WENT OVER MAJOR PROJECT STATUS REPORTS THROUGH DECEMBER, 2022. WE APPROVE CHANGES WITH DYNAMIC ENGINEERING SERVICE FOR THE STATE ROUTE 60 AT CENTRAL AVENUE. AND SO THIS ACTUALLY, UM, IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. THERE. IN CHINO TRANSIT COMMITTEE, WE ELECTED A NEW, UH, VICE CHAIR RICK DENNISON FROM YUCCA VALLEY. WE REVIEWED LOCAL TRANSPORTATION FUND APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24. SAG EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE. REALLY NOTHING TO REPORT THERE. TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WE APPROVED ACTION ITEMS. A NUMBER ONE, CONNECT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 2024 DRAFT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND APPROACH IN A REGIONAL COMPLETE STREET POLICIES. AND THEN WE ALSO APPROVE GOODS MOVEMENT, SUPPLY CHAIN RESOLUTION. AND THAT IS MY REPORT, SIR. EXCELLENT. THANKS, JOB. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, YES, CHINO VALLEY INDEPENDENT FIRE DISTRICT. UM, THIS LAST MEETING WE HAD, THERE WAS A COUPLE, UH, PRESENTATIONS. UH, THERE WAS AN EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION FOR FIRE INSPECTOR TORI HUNG YOUNG, UH, A RETIREMENT RECOGNITION FOR FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC JEFF HARRING, UH, EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR, NATALIE CABALES, SABALOS, AND, UH, FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR, RYAN POOR HASIAN HASIAN. UH, AND THERE WAS ALSO SERVICE EMPLOYEE SERVICE OR EMPLOYEE SERVICE AWARDS FOR 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. UH, FIRST AND, AND MOSTLY IMPORTANT IS, UH, OUR FIRE CHIEF DAVE WILLIAMS, UH, CAPTAIN CASEY MAY AND ENGINEER RUSSELL TAU. UH, ALSO THEY HAD A MID-YEAR, UH, BUDGET, UH, REVIEW. AND BASICALLY IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRE DISTRICT IS IN REALLY GREAT FISCAL SHAPE, JUST LIKE THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, UH, CHINO VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT. UH, NOT A LOT GOING ON. THIS LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A, AN, AN ACTIVE, UH, PROTEST GOING ON OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS, UH, DEALING WITH, UH, A STUDENT, UM, UM, ISSUE OF, UH, UH, EXPULSION OR SOMETHING. I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY WAS GOING ON, BUT I JUST TRIED TO STAY CLEAR OF IT. UM, AND, UH, THEN FINALLY TODAY, UH, THIS MORNING I, I ATTENDED MY FIRST MEETINGS OF THE CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE FOR MEN AND WOMEN, UH, ON THE, UH, MEETING FOR THE MEN, UH, THE 50 BED, UH, FACILITY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME ABOUT THE, UH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH AND EVERYTHING IS THAT, UH, UH, THAT'S STARTING. UH, THEY ARE DE DEACTIVATING ONE YARD AND THEY'RE REMAINING THREE YARDS. UH, UM, JUST BY WAY OF INFORMATION, UH, COVID, THERE'S ONLY 10 OR LESS, UH, UM, OVER THE LAST 30 DAYS. AND, UH, 86% OF THE INMATES HAVE BEEN VACCINATED. UH, ALSO THERE CURRENTLY ARE TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO INMATES. AND AN INTERESTING STATISTIC SINCE GOING BACK TO 2005, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE INMATE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED WHILE INCARCERATED IN THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AT CM THAT HAS ACTUALLY RETURNED, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL SENTENCING. OH. SO IT'S PRETTY GOOD SUCCESS. I WAS THINKING OF, UH, DIANA, YA BOY ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE A HUNDRED PERCENT GRADUATION RATE. WELL, THIS IS A FUN, A VERY, VERY MONUMENTAL THING FOR THE CM, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING THESE, UM, INMATES ABLE TO BE ABLE TO BE, UH, FUNCTIONING, UH, INDIVIDUALS BACK OUT IN THE COMMUNITIES. THAT WAS REALLY [02:40:01] GOOD. UH, FOR THE C I W, UH, THERE ARE 966, UH, CURRENT, UH, FEMALE, UM, INMATES THERE. UH, INTERESTING SITUATION IS TWO THIRDS OF THOSE, UH, FEMALE IN INMATES ARE INVOLVED WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS. A LOT OF, UH, ABUSE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT, UH, CURRENTLY THEY, THERE APPARENTLY HAS NOT BEEN MORE THAN A HUNDRED OR A THOUSAND, UH, INMATES AT THE C I W, UH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UH, THEY ARE GETTING READY TO, UH, CURRENTLY RENOVATE AND REPLACE THE MAIN KITCHEN, WHICH HASN'T BEEN, UH, RE UH, DONE SINCE, UH, 1965. AND, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE, THE MOST INTERESTING THING. SO THAT ENDS MY REPORTS. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, BRIAN. ALL RIGHT. LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE. WE MET THIS WEEK TO DISCUSS, UM, OUR NEW, UH, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND OUR, UH, FEDERAL FUNDING REQUEST THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING IN FOR, UM, FOR, UH, EARMARKS ALSO, UH, DISCUSSED, UM, CITY OF CHINO HILLS GENERATED LEGISLATIVE IDEAS REGARDING, UM, CITY CLERK'S, OFFICE, AND OTHER FUNCTIONS OF THAT NATURE. MM-HMM. . SO IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD MEETING. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE LEGISLATURE GOES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. CAN YOU WANT TO [ COUNCIL COMMENTS] CONTINUE ON WITH ANY COUNSEL COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE? NO, I THINK I'M GOOD. GOOD. OKAY. VERY QUICKLY, UH, YES. UH, TO ALL OF THOSE VALENTINE'S OUT THERE, UH, I HOPE THAT YOU WERE ALL SPOILED BY, UH, YOUR, UH, SIGNIFICANT OTHER OR, UH, UM, HUSBAND OR WIFE, WHICHEVER, UM, HOPEFULLY YOU TOOK CARE OF THAT BEFORE THE MEETING TONIGHT. OH MY GOD. UH, OTHERWISE YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. THAT'S TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT, PARDON? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WELL, YEAH, WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT? YES. AT ANY RATE, UH, UM, YES. UM, WE, UH, FOR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A THREE DAY WEEKEND STAFF THAT ARE HAVING A THREE DAY WEEKEND COMING UP, ENJOY IT. AND, UH, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. SO THAT'S IN . OKAY. GOOD. YOU STUMPED ME LIKE NORMAL. GOOD. RAY, ARE YOU UP, MR. MAYOR? THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. FIRST OF ALL, STATUS ON CARBON CANYON TRUCK RES RESTRICTION. UM, I TALKED TO THE MAYOR FROM BREYER AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SIGNED AND MOVING FORWARD. I TALKED TO DANIEL TODAY TO GET AN UPDATE AND I THINK YOU GOT SOME, SOME OTHER INFORMATION, SO WE'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO I SPOKE TO, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, OR AT THE CITY OF BREA, UH, THIS MORNING. AND, UH, WHAT HE MENTIONED THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S PREPARED AND READY TO GO. THEY'RE JUST WAITING ON CALTRANS DISTRICT SEVEN TO GIVE THE OKAY. BEFORE THEY TAKE IT TO THEIR COUNCIL. OKAY. UH, THEY WERE PLANNING ON TAKING IT TO THE COUNCIL, UH, NEXT WEEK. UH, BUT THEY'VE PUSHED THAT BACK, UM, UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. UM, AS SOON AS I GET THAT INFORMATION, I WILL, UH, SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL. YEAH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. CAUSE I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE THERE FOR THAT MEETING. UM, ALSO A STATUS ON THE PALM TREE REMOVAL AND BRUSH CLEARANCE IN, IN, UH, THE CREEK BED IN CARBON CANYON. YES. SO THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE CURRENTLY ONGOING. UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, FIRE SAFE COUNCIL IN THE FIRE DISTRICT, UH, THERE'S A GROUP CALLED, UH, UH, SAA AND, UH, CCC, CALIFORNIA CONSERVATION CORPS THAT'S ACTIVELY, UH, DOING BRUSH CLEARANCE, UH, ALONG CARBON CANYON CREEK. UH, ONCE UH, THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE DONE, UH, WE WILL HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT, UH, SAME GROUP THAT WILL BE DOING THE WORK. UM, AND THAT WILL BE TO REMOVAL ALL THE DEAD PALM TREES. OKAY. AND WE'RE SORT OF, OUR GOAL BASICALLY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE BY SUMMER, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IT SHOULD BE DONE HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. OKAY. AND JUST MY LAST THING. I KNOW THE LAST TWO YEARS WE WERE LOOKING FOR GRANTS, BUT LUCKILY WE GOT THIS MONEY FROM, UH, UH, SUPERVISOR HAGMAN. BUT ARE WE STILL TRYING TO, TO ACQUIRE MORE FUNDING FOR GRANTS FOR, UH, BRUSH CLEARANCE THROUGHOUT, SAY, LIKE OPEN SPACE? WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR, FOR GRAMS. YES. PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR, YOUR HARD WORK. UM, SIGNAGE ALONG CHINO HILLS PARKWAY IN THE 71, I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER TODAY. THERE'S STILL ELECTION SIGNS UP. THERE ARE ACTUALLY BIG ONES YEAH. THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON METAL FENCES. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. UM, THERE'S A COMMERCIAL CENTER THAT'S HAVING A WATER BILL ISSUE. I DID GET PHONE CALLS ON THAT TODAY. AND MR. CITY MANAGER, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY CALLS AS OF YET? UH, YES, MAYOR, UH, AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, AND SEVERAL OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE, UH, CENTER, UH, THERE'S AN, AND THAT CENTER HAS A VERY COMPLEX, UH, UH, BILLING ISSUE THAT THE CITY'S BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, UH, UH, THE TENANTS FOR A WHILE, UH, EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, CREDITS, UH, GIVEN BY, UH, THE STATE HAVE BEEN, UH, APPLIED TO THE BILL. UH, IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE THE OUTSTANDING BALANCE, UH, CAN SIMPLY NO LONGER BE IGNORED. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE [02:45:01] PARTIES ARE AWARE OF THE SITUATION AND WE ARE, UH, UH, CURRENTLY ENGAGING IN TALKS WITH ALL OF THE, UH, INTEREST PARTIES. YEAH. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOUR TWO CITY MANAGER. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOME FUNDING. UM, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ARRA MONEY TO REDUCE THAT BY ABOUT ALMOST 30, 38, 30 9,000. SO THANK YOU FOR ACQUIRING THOSE FUNDS. AND THEN ALSO THE SECOND THING IS, UH, YOU WILL BE THE POINT PERSON, RIGHT? IF ANYBODY DOES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A CALL. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. NOTICES, WERE GIVEN ALL OF THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BUSINESSES, AND THEY'RE ALL DIRECTED TO, UH, CONTACT MY OFFICE. WELL, YOU MAKE US LOOK GOOD, SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, THE CITY COUNCIL TRACKING LIST, I KNOW WE GET THIS, UH, PROBABLY EVERY WEEK, AND I, I LOOK AT IT AND I SEE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ON IT FOR LIKE TWO, THREE YEARS. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO MAYBE AGENDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND SORT OF GET A STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHATEVER THE HICCUPS MIGHT BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE? SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, I APPRECIATE IT. SURE. OKAY. THAT'S IT, SIR. OKAY. SAN, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. UM, I KNOW THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE YOU AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT'S, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK INTO A RESEARCH, UM, POSSIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM FOR FUTURE PROJECTS? I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN THEIR PRESENTATION. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA BE LEFT, BUT MOVING FORWARD, UM, IF WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OUT OF DEVELOPERS TO DO SOME PUBLIC ART IN THEIR CENTER OR IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE. WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO WHAT BREA DOES, BUT I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT BACK TO EXPLORE, HAVE A PRESENTATION ON IT, AND HAVE JOANNE CHIME IN ABOUT WHAT CAN OR CAN'T BE DONE OR WHAT CAN WE REQUIRE OF THEM. SHE'S GRANTING. WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA SOCK IT TO YOU BEFORE WE OKAY. SO THEN, UM, ALSO TOO, CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE, A LOVELY REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR LOVELY GAS COMPANY COME IN AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON WHY OUR BILL IS SO HIGH, PLEASE. OR WHY MY BILL IS A CAR PAYMENT. WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, MAKE THAT INVITATION TO THE GAS COMPANY WE'LL, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY DO. THANK YOU. TAKE US UP. SUSPECT THEY'RE GONNA ACCEPT THAT INVITATION, BUT THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK IT'S JENNIFER SHAW, RIGHT? NO. OH, NO, THAT'S OH, OH, OH. LEAH. LEAH PETERSON. LEAH PETERSON. OKAY. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? NOPE. OKAY. WELL, UM, RAY'S ALREADY BROUGHT UP SOMETHING I WAS GONNA BRING UP HAVING TO DO WITH CARBON CANYON. SO I'LL JUST SAY HAPPY VALENTINE TO EVERYBODY. HELP VALENTINE'S DAY. AND UNLESS [ ADJOURN IN MEMORIAM AND IN HOPE: Adjourn in tribute and honor of those who serve and have served in the Armed Forces at home and abroad. Their sacrifice and strength protect the goals and ideals that have made this Country great.] WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ADJOURNED UNTIL TWO WEEKS FROM TONIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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