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OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

[ 3:00 P.M. - CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL]

NICE INTRO.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE FEEDBACK GOING.

WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR, UH, 20 23 20 24.

AND, UH, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC, JEFF.

YOU'RE THE PUBLIC.

YOU REPRESENT THE PUBLIC.

YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC AND ALL OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ROLL CALL.

ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

EXCELLENT.

AND IF YOU'D PLEASE STAND AND JOIN

[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG]

ME IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR FLAG AND TO OUR COUNTRY.

READY? BEGIN THE PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE, CHERYL, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

AND MR. BACCA DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR PRESENTATION.

SO I GUESS BEFORE WE START, SIR, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL FAST? YES.

I NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO CYNTHIA MORAN.

UH, THIS IS VERY STRESSFUL UP HERE.

SO I TRIED TO BRING SOME, UH, LEVITY, SO HER CHAIR WAS REALLY LOW.

YOU WERE REALLY GOOD THERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR NOT GETTING MAD AT ME.

I HIT HER PHONE AND I HIT HER PURSE, AND NOW SHE'S STARTING TO GET MAD, BY THE WAY.

SO, SO I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

NO, WHEN YOU HIT HER, I LOVE YOU.

WHEN YOU HIT MY, WHEN YOU HIT MY FAN, THAT'S WHEN YOU CROSS THE LINE.

SHE, MY FAN.

NOW SHE HAS A FAN DOWN HERE.

ALWAYS DO.

BUT DUE TO BUDGET CUTS, WE'RE CUTTING THAT FAN OUT.

.

OH.

CAUSE YOU'RE SO HOT.

SO, YEAH.

OKAY, YOU GUYS, JUST MEANING WE NEED TO LIKE MIX IT.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU.

SINCE I SAID THEY EXTENDED MY WORKING DAY.

I WAS WITH YOU.

LOVE YOUR KIDS.

I WAS WITH TEENAGERS.

NOW I'M EXTENDING MY WORK DAY.

I WAS STILL A TEENAGER.

SO, .

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

LET'S CALL .

GOOD JOB, RAY.

GOOD JOB.

OKAY.

.

WHAT WAS THAT? LOOK, BEN, THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE CHILDREN, CHILDREN, CHILDREN.

NO, I WAS WONDERING IF I CAN, UH, OPT NOT TO SPEAK AS WELL.

IT WOULD BE, UH, OKAY.

, WE JUST MOVE RIGHT ON THROUGH IT.

SO, BUT UNFORTUNATELY YOU CANNOT, SO YOU'RE, THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS.

[2. Review and discuss proposed Fiscal Year 2023-24 Budget, including Programs and Objectives, Capital Improvement Projects, and Five-Year Budget Outlook]

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU COUNSEL, UH, UH, FOR ALLOWING US TO GET TOGETHER THE DAY THROUGH THIS WORKSHOP TO GO THROUGH, UH, OUR PROPOSED, UH, 20 23, 20 24, UH, BUDGET.

UH, FIRST, AS, AS ALWAYS, I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, THE TEAM, UH, BOTH IN THE ROOM TODAY AND, UH, BACK AT THEIR OFFICE FOR ALL THE GOOD HARD WORK THAT'S DONE, NOT ONLY TO PREPARE THE BUDGET, BUT ALSO TO, UH, EXECUTE THE BUDGET, UH, EVERY YEAR.

IT'S THE PEOPLE YOU SEE OUT THERE, UH, WHO, UH, MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN UNDER THE GUIDANCE, OF COURSE, OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, AND IT'S THE FISCAL STEWARDSHIP OF, UH, THE COUNCIL THAT ALLOWS US TO DO, YOU KNOW, THIS GOOD WORK.

UM, THE WORKSHOP IS A FORMAT, UH, IT'S KIND OF ODD BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNCIL KNOWS THE ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION AND EVERYTHING I'M, I'M GOING TO PRESENT.

BUT WHAT I TYPICALLY TRY TO DO IS ACT AS IF I'M PRESENTING TO THE PUBLIC.

SO, JEFF, THIS IS ALL FOR YOU TODAY.

ALL, UH, UH, AND, UH, BUT THAT'S THE SCOPE FOR US, IS WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET, UH, INITIALLY AT A 10, 20,000 FOOT LEVEL, LOOKING AT THE MACRO NUMBERS.

UH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIVE INTO ANY SPECIFIC PROGRAM, ANY SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT THAT YOU, THAT YOU WISH.

BUT SOME OF THE, THE, UH, INITIAL PRESENTATION, UH, IS FOR SOMEONE WHO MIGHT NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH THE BUDGET AS I KNOW THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF PRESENT TODAY ARE.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S GET STARTED.

SO, FIRST, UH, IN KIND OF NEW FOR THIS, UH, UH, PRESENTATION IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE BUDGET PROCESS WORKS.

UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, TO, TO GIVE BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC A A GLIMPSE INTO THE TYPE OF WORK THAT OUR TEAM IS DOING IN THE BACKGROUND IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, 151 MILLION BUDGET.

UH, IT STARTS BY STAFF REVIEWING, UH, THE CURRENT BUDGET, PAST YEARS.

UH, WHAT WERE OUR EXPENDITURES? WHAT ARE PROGRAMS THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE, WHAT ARE PROGRAMS THAT WE MIGHT NOT CONTINUE? UH, DO WE WANT TO PROPOSE ANY CHANGES BASED ON, UH, HOW, UH, HIGH A QUALITY THE, THE PAST PROGRAM WAS? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, BIG, UH,

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ISSUES THAT ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED, OR DO WE HAVE ANY FORECASTS OF NEW THINGS GOING ON? UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, UH, WHAT IT WOULD LIKELY COST IN THE NEXT YEAR, UH, FOR, UH, THE VARIETY OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED BY THE CITY.

UH, AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE ANYTHING NEW FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, WE, WE DERIVE A COST FOR YOU THERE.

UH, THE WAY WE DERIVE THOSE COSTS ARE BASED ON CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS.

THEY'RE EITHER, UH, PAST COST.

IF WE, IF WE KNOW THAT WE CAN HOLD THOSE COSTS, UH, UH, UH, STABLE, UH, IF WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN FACTORS THAT, UH, LIKE, UH, PAST INFLATION, UH, OR WHAT THE LARGER ECONOMY IS EXPERIENCING AS FAR AS INFLATION, UH, THEN STAFF WILL TAKE THAT IN ORDER, UH, THAT IN, IN CONNECTION WITH THEIR DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF A PARTICULAR PROGRAM TO GIVE YOU A COST ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THOSE SERVICES.

UH, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT ALL INTO A BUDGET, UH, AND WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT BOTH OUR OPERATING AND OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT NEEDS.

UH, OPERATING BEING THE DAY-TO-DAY.

UH, THESE ARE EVERYTHING FROM MOWING THE LAWN AT A PARK, UH, TO THE ELECTRICITY COSTS AT CITY HALL, UH, TO THE, UH, STAFFING COSTS FOR, UH, UH, TINY TOTS.

ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WE HAVE, THE OPERATING BUDGET, UH, WILL, UH, ENCAPSULATE ALL OF THAT WORK.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU RUN A CITY A AS LARGE AS OURS, IN ADDITION TO YOUR NORMAL OPERATIONS, YOU ALSO HAVE CAPITAL NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S REPLACING A VEHICLE OR, UH, IN SOME CASES, BUILDING, YOU KNOW, A ROAD OR REPAIRING A ROAD OR MAJOR, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE TO A FACILITY.

UH, THEN WE END UP WITH A, UH, CAPITAL PROJECT, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA LAST, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN TWO YEARS IN, IN ESSENCE.

UH, AND FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I'M GONNA FOCUS MOSTLY ON OPERATIONS, OUR OPERATING BUDGET.

AND THEN, UH, DANIEL BOBADILLA WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL GIVE YOU OUR, UH, UH, FORECAST OF THE, UH, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO, TO PEEL BACK KIND OF THE CURTAIN AND SHOW HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS BUDGET.

AGAIN, WE START BY LOOKING AT WHAT DID WE DO THIS YEAR? WHAT DO WE THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR? AS STAFF KNOWS, WE TYPICALLY START WITH THE PREMISE OF A HOLD THE LINE OR FLAT BUDGET.

UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN COSTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL, WHETHER IT'S A NEW, UH, CONTRACT OR, UH, OR JUST, UH, UH, RATES FOR WATER OR, UH, ENERGY COSTS.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS THE STAFF WILL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY DEVELOP THE BUDGET.

AND, UH, THEN AGAIN, UH, COME UP WITH THIS, UH, UH, MASTERFUL DOCUMENT.

IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT, AS WE'VE STATED, ANOTHER, UH, YEARS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS EITHER FOR NEW PROGRAMS OR COST CHANGES.

UH, BUT THE WORK PLAN IS, IS THE GOAL OF THE BUDGET.

IT, IT SHOWS TO ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS, UH, DIRECTED STAFF TO EXECUTE OVER THE YEAR.

UH, THAT'S, UH, THE, THE BUDGET ENDS UP BEING THE ROADMAP IN THE BLUEPRINT FOR ALL THAT WORK.

SO, UH, AS WITHIN A YEAR, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF CHALLENGES THAT POP UP, UH, DURING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT.

UM, ONE THAT I BELIEVE WILL BE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, FOCUS FOR THE COUNCIL AS WE, UH, MOVE THROUGH THE BUDGET ARE, UH, THE IMPACTS WE RECEIVE FROM FIXED REVENUE STREAMS. SPECIFICALLY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR, UH, LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPE, UH, SUBSIDY, WHICH IS THE RESULT OF, UH, A FIXED REVENUE STREAM, UH, FROM, UH, L AND L ASSESSMENTS.

UH, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH EVERY YEAR, IS THAT WE HAVE A FEW AREAS WHERE WE, AS A CITY, THE COUNCIL AS A BODY DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RAISE, UH, REVENUE.

UH, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE TAXPAYER IN ORDER TO EXECUTE THAT.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE VARIABLE REVENUES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

UH, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK, GRANT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, FLUCTUATES, UH, GAS TAX WILL FLUCTUATE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, ROAD, UH, UH, SOURCES OF REVENUE FLUCTUATE.

AND SO THE STAFF WILL DO THE BEST THEY CAN TO FORECAST WHAT THAT MAY BE.

BUT OFTENTIMES, UH, WE'RE JUST SUBJECT TO, UH, THOSE BODIES, WHETHER FEDERAL OR OUR STATE THAT MAY, UH, PROVIDE US WITH THAT REVENUE.

I SHOULD SAY, UH, AT ANY GIVEN TIME, IF THE COUNCIL HAS A QUESTION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUST KIND OF FLAG ME DOWN, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO, UH, ANSWER THAT OR, OR MOVE TO IT.

YES, SIR.

YES.

GOT A QUESTION PERTAINING TO ALLEN LS.

I KNOW, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME

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L AND L DISTRICTS SUCH AS VALO, THEY'RE SORT OF SET UP DIFFERENTLY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THINGS DO GO UP, THEY GO UP.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

YES.

AND THEN THERE'S OTHER AREAS IN CHINO HILLS THAT DON'T PAY ANY INTO L AND L DISTRICTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

OKAY.

SO BASED ON THAT, WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY CLOSE TO ALMOST 4 MILLION DEFICIT COMING UP.

THAT'S YES.

THE SUBSIDY FOR THE L AND L DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THEANO, UH, IN TOTAL WE HAVE 3.9, NEARLY 4 MILLION IN SUBSIDY WHERE REVENUE, UH, DOES NOT MATCH THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

MY PLEASURE.

UH, SO ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS OUR EXPENDITURES.

UH, AS EVERYONE, I THINK, UH, UH, WHO PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO THE NEWS KNOWS, UH, WE HAVE BEEN IN A INFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED.

IT'S BEEN, WELL, IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE, UH, WE'VE HAD EIGHT, 9%, UH, UH, INFLATION GOING ON.

THAT IMPACTS A VARIETY OF AREAS.

IT, IT IMPACTS THE WAGES THAT WE PAY OUR STAFF.

IT IMPACTS, UH, THE WAGES AND THEIR BLOOD, THE COST FOR CONTRACTS, THE COST OF GOODS, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO BUY, OUR ENERGY COSTS ALL ARE, UH, RISING DRAMATICALLY IN THE PAST YEAR AND ANTICIPATED IN THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, ANOTHER CONDITION THAT REALLY, UH, UH, WAS IMPACTFUL IN THE CURRENT YEAR AND GOING FORWARD, UH, ARE OUR, OUR NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS.

UH, WE WORK WITH A VARIETY OF SERVICE PROVIDERS.

UH, WHEN WE HAVE A MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT, IT'S GREAT BECAUSE WE CAN STRUCTURE THAT AGREEMENT WHERE, UH, THE INCREASES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ARE PREDICTABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE CONTRACT.

UH, BUT, UH, WE HAD A MAJOR CONTRACT.

OUR, UH, UH, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, UH, THIS PAST YEAR, UH, UM, HAVE TO BE RENEGOTIATED IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF EXTREME INFLATION, WHICH RESULTED IN, UH, DRAMATIC COST INCREASES.

ALL OF THOSE ARE ONGOING CHALLENGES FOR THE NEW BUDGET YEAR.

UH, BUT WE'VE DONE THE BEST WE CAN TO MANAGE THAT WITH SERVICE LEVELS, UH, AND, UH, ANTICIPATED REVENUE.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO FIND THAT, UH, WE HA EVEN THOUGH WE'RE A YOUNG CITY, UH, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS AGING, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE, UH, UH, LATERALS, UH, FOR OUR, UH, WATER SYSTEM, OR IT'S OUR, UH, STORM DRAIN SYSTEM THAT WE INHERITED IN SOME AREAS FROM THE COUNTY, UH, TO THE FACILITY, UH, YOU'RE ACTUALLY SITTING IN RIGHT NOW.

WHILE I KNOW TO MANY OF US, THIS STILL FEELS LIKE A, A, A NEW BUILDING, UH, IT'S NOT.

AND YOU CAN ASK OUR, UH, FACILITIES, UH, TEAM, UH, OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THEY'RE HAVING TO DO TO KIND OF KEEP, UH, KEEP, UH, IT AS PRETTY AND FUNCTIONAL AS IT IS.

AIR CONDITIONERS GO OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ROOFS, LEAK, UH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, ADD COSTS THAT, UH, HAVE TO BE, UH, UH, INCORPORATED INTO THIS BUDGET.

UH, I DO HAVE TO, UH, POINT OUT THAT OUR TEAM DOES A FANTASTIC JOB OF WORKING WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE GIVE THEM EVERY YEAR.

THEY FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO, UH, DEFER COST OR TO, UH, UH, STRETCH A DOLLAR.

AND IT'S, UH, IT'S ALWAYS PART OF THE PROCESS AS WE TRY TO KNOW WHAT HAS TO BE DONE, WHAT CAN BE DONE, AND WHAT HAS TO BE DEFERRED.

SO, UH, WITH THAT BACKGROUND, SORRY.

YES.

AND BEFORE YOU GET AWAY FROM THAT PAGE, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REVENUES AND EXPENSES.

UM, THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL BE ADDRESSING IT AS WE GO ALONG, IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR SUMMARY AND OUTLOOK, UH, BY FUND THE REVENUE OR THE OPERATING REVENUES CURRENT YEAR, 55.2 MILLION, AND THAT INCH INCHES UP ALL THE WAY OUT TO 2000 OR 27, 27, 28, WHERE IT'S ALMOST $62 MILLION.

THE ALARMING THING IS THAT THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES ARE GONNA BE GOING UP FROM 44.6 UP TO 61.4.

AND THEN THE REAL NUMBER THAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS THE ENDING, PROPOSED ENDING FUND BALANCE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT UPCOMING YEAR AT HAVING A ENDING FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 43.9 MILLION, BUT THAT'S PROJECTED AT $11.3 MILLION.

THAT IS TERRIFYING TO ME.

NOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A, WE HAVE RESERVES, BUT I THINK THAT'S A BIG PICTURE THING THAT HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE WHITTLE, YOU KNOW, WHITTLING DOWN ON AND, AND GIVING US SOME ANSWERS AND SOLUTIONS FOR HOW WE CAN CHANGE THAT.

CUZ THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S SCARY TO ME.

YEAH.

UH, OUR CITY'S ALWAYS BEEN FISCALLY FLUSH, AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT BAD.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING GOOD.

AND THE FACT IS THAT WE'VE GOT $12.9 MILLION, I THINK, OF, UH, OR MORE OF THE SUBSIDIES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING KILLED.

SO JUST WITH THAT HIGH LEVEL 20,000 VIEW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WIGGLE DOWN ON AND, AND CONCENTRATE ON.

ABSOLUTELY.

I, I'M

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SURE THAT'S EVERYBODY'S BIG CONCERN.

NO, AND, AND, AND IT'S, THIS IS NOW A GOOD TIME TO, TO START.

YOU'RE RIGHT AT THAT HIGH LEVEL, AND WE'LL, WE'LL DRILL DOWN MORE WHEN WE GET TO IT, BUT, UH, THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST, UH, MAKES SEVERAL ASSUMPTIONS SIMILAR TO THE ONES I JUST OUTLINED.

UH, WITH REVENUE, WE'RE FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE.

WE, WE TRY TO PREDICT, UH, LOWER THAN WE THINK WE WILL EXPERIENCE, BUT REASONABLY WITHIN THE RANGE.

UH, AND THEN THE EXPENDITURES OVER THOSE FIVE YEARS ARE, UH, THE BASIC ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IF WE DON'T SEE AN INCREASE IN REVENUE, IF WE DON'T FIND A WAY TO, UH, DRAMATICALLY CONTROL, UH, COSTS.

AND SO WE'LL DRILL INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S THE, NOW IS THE PERFECT TIME TO LOOK AT THE, FROM THE 10,000 FOOT LEVEL, THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

BUT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, THE HARD DECISIONS WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, NEXT YEAR ISN'T AS BAD AS WE'RE PREDICTING TODAY, AND HOW THAT CARRIES OUT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, SUCCESS OF FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.

SO, YEAH, IT'S A BIG CONCERN BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE PROBABLY PREDICATED ON EVENTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OUR BROAD CONTROL.

THE STAFF OUT HERE DOES A GREAT JOB ON MAINTAINING THEIR BUDGETS AND, AND BEING AUSTERE WHEN IT COMES TO, HEY, WE NEED CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS TO DO.

AND IT'S SAD THAT THEY'RE GETTING PENALIZED BY THE FACT THAT ON A BIGGER SCALE, THAT THOSE REVENUES OR EXPENSES ARE NOT SOMETHING THEY HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER.

THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THE BIG PICTURE IS NOT LOOKING GOOD.

SO, RIGHT AS WE DRILL DOWN ON THAT, THAT'LL BE BETTER.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT OBSERVATION.

SO, OUR START, UH, FOR ME WAS TO FRAME, UH, KIND OF HOW WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, TOWARDS THAT.

UH, THERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS, THOUGH, UH, AS, AS, UH, ART POINTED OUT, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GLOOMY, BUT RIGHT IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SOME, UH, AT LEAST, UH, FAVORABLE CIRCUMSTANCES.

OUR, UH, BUDGET IS BALANCED.

UH, AND THAT'S THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF THE TEAM, UH, OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND AT THE DIAS, UH, HERE, UM, WE ARE PREDICT PROJECTING THAT WE WILL HAVE 55.3 MILLION IN OUR GENERAL FUND, UH, FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE TEAM, UH, DID NOT EXCEED, UH, UH, THAT REVENUE IN THEIR PROJECTED EXPENDITURES.

UH, THEY CURTAILED OPERATIONS WHERE NEED BE AND TIGHTEN THE BELT AS MUCH AS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL KNEW THAT WE WERE NOT PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD BE LIVING BEYOND OUR MEANS, UH, IN ESSENCE, THROUGH OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, OUR, UH, AND AS, UH, UH, ART, UH, ALLUDED TO, OUR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE OR, OR RESERVES, UH, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR WILL BE AT 33.9 MILLION.

THAT'S A 61%, UH, OF OPERATING EXPENDITURES.

SO OUR RAINY DAY FUND IS, YOU KNOW, 61% OF WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO SPEND THIS YEAR.

UH, BUT THAT'S IN UNRESTRICTED, UH, RESERVES.

WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS PUT ASIDE IN A VARIETY OF SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE WANTED TO HAVE COVERAGE.

WHEN YOU THROW IN ALL OF THE RESERVE, UH, FUND, UH, CATEGORIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT 43.8 MILLION, AND WE'LL SHOW A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT LATER.

BUT I GUESS THAT FIRST BIG CATEGORY IS WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT, AND THE COUNCIL DOES A LOT OF FOCUS ON OUR GENERAL FUND.

OUR B OUR BUDGET IS BALANCED, OUR RESERVES ARE STILL VERY HEALTHY, AND OUR LARGER RESERVES ARE, UH, HEALTHIER STILL.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SUBSIDIES, JUST THE BIG MACRO NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE FURTHER SLIDES TO GET INTO THE DETAILS AS, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ POINTED OUT, 3.9, ESSENTIALLY 4 MILLION WORTH OF, UH, UH, L AND L UH, SUBSIDIES.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REVENUE, THE EXPENDITURES, AND THE NET SUBSIDY, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UH, UH, WE DO COLLECT REVENUE THROUGH THE L AND LS.

IT'S JUST THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN FROZEN SINCE 1996, ESSENTIALLY WHEN PROP TWO 18 WAS EXECUTED, UH, WE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A MECHANISM WITH THE FEW EXCEPTIONS, AS POINTED OUT BY COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, TO INCREASE, UH, THOSE ASSESSMENTS.

UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A, UH, ANOTHER SUBSIDY, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A SUBSIDY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

AND OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE IS FINE.

UH, ALL OF THE RECREATION ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS, ALL OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UH, UH, DOES NOT, UH, COVER ITSELF WITH THE REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE.

BUT WE'VE GOT A NEW SLIDE THAT WE WANT TO POINT OUT, KIND OF THE, THE BACKGROUND

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ON THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE AREAS THAT, UH, UH, HAVE OUTGOING, UH, UH, REVENUE OR OUTGOING EXPENDITURES THAT EXCEED REVENUE, UH, OUR L AND L DISTRICT 4 MILLION, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, FUND, SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

AND THEN OUR STREET SWEEPING OPERATION, UH, THE ASSESSMENTS THAT PAY FOR STREET SWEEPING, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH STREET SWEEPING HAVE AN $87,000 IMBALANCE.

SO WE, WHAT WE END UP WITH IS LOWER, UH, UH, REVENUE, THEN EXPENDITURES.

AND THAT'S A RESULT ALSO OF, UH, THE CONSTRAINTS OF PROP TWO 18.

IT MAKES, WE'D HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS IN ORDER TO RAISE THAT, UH, ASSESSMENT.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION, UH, BEN, WITH RESPECT TO THOSE TWO FUNDS IN PARTICULAR, WHEN WE LOOK OUT FIVE YEARS THOUGH, THAT COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, SUBSIDY IS PROJECTED AT 7.6 MILLION AND 5.7 MILLION ON THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING.

YOU AND I, WHEN WE HAD OUR ONE-ON-ONE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES FUND.

AND I THINK WE START, WE NEED TO START ASKING OURSELVES THE REALLY HARD QUESTION ABOUT, WE PROVIDE A TON OF PROGRAMS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COMPARES TO ADJ, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT COMMUNITIES.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN PROVIDE ALL OF THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE DO AND ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE DO WHEN THEY AREN'T SELF-FUNDED.

AND WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELF THE, THE, UM, THE HARD QUESTION.

WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO EXER OR TO MONITOR THE FUNDS OF THIS CITY FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

HOW MANY OF THE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZING OR ARE INVOLVED WITH THOSE FUNDS OR WITH THOSE, UH, PROGRAMS? AND CAN WE CONTINUE TO JUSTIFY TO THE BULK OF OUR RESIDENTS THE EXPENDITURE FOR THE MANY, MANY WONDERFUL PROGRAMS WE HAVE THAT ARE SOMETIMES ENJOYED BY PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY? AND WE UNDERSTAND THEY PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THERE'S STILL A SUBSIDY THAT GOES TO THAT.

SO I'M KIND OF RAMBLING, BUT THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.

IT'S A HARD QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK, BECAUSE THAT ONE IS THE GONNA BE THE BIGGEST SUBSIDY, UH, AND CURRENTLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST SUBSIDY.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON, ON, YOU KNOW, THOSE HARD QUESTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T AFFORD TO DO, AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE OR AREN'T, UM, NECESSARY.

AND NOT JUST LIKES AND GREAT THINGS TO DO, BUT HOW MANY CAN WE SUSTAIN AND DO, GIVEN OUR CURRENT BUDGETARY, UH, SITUATION? NO.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S APPRECIATED.

UM, WE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL SHARES MY SENTIMENT HERE, UH, SPECIFICALLY WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES.

THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN CHINO HILL, SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.

UH, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A HARD CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CONTINUE TO INVEST SIX AND A HALF MILLION, WHETHER WE, UH, CUT THE SERVICES AND CUT THE OFFERINGS, OR ASK THE PUBLIC TO PAY MORE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT SLIDE, THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, SPARK SOME MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

UH, I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, BOTH YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BENNETT AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ HAVE CALLED THE, THE VERY PERTINENT QUESTION, WHEN YOU HAVE AS MANY PARKS AS WE DO WITH THE, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PARKS, TAKING ASIDE ANY PROGRAMS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN? ARE THERE OTHER WAYS WE CAN LOWER THOSE COSTS BY CHANGING HOW THOSE, UH, PARKS ARE, UH, UH, DESIGNED? HOW THEY'RE, UH, EQUIPPED, MAINTAINED, OR WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, UH, OWN THEM ALL THINGS THAT, UH, UH, YOU AND OTHERS HAVE HAVE BROUGHT UP ALONG THE WAY? YEAH.

A ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE CANYON, YES.

IT'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE.

YEAH.

ROSEMARY, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG TICKET ITEM THAT'S JUST, IT'S MONEY THAT'S SITTING THERE.

SO, I'M SORRY TO HOG ALL THE QUESTIONS.

IT'S FINE.

IT'S ALONG THE SAME LINES TOO.

THE SAME.

UM, I WISH I WAS TELLING BEN AND R ONE-ON-ONE THAT I WISH THAT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES FUND COULD NOT BE LIKE IN THE SUBSIDY PART, BECAUSE SUBSIDY IS SUCH LIKE A NEGATIVE WARD, MEANING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE BECAUSE WE DON'T BRING IN ENOUGH MONEY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SAY POLICY DECISION, BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THE FIVE OF US ARE REALLY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT WITH, WITH HOW WE VIEW CHINO HILLS.

IF YOU WERE TO ASK SOMEONE WHY THEY LIVE HERE, IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR OPEN SPACE.

IT'S BECAUSE WHEN THEY DRIVE AROUND, THEY SAY, GREEN NOT CONCRETE.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE FANTASTIC PROGRAMS. I, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF NON-RESIDENTS PARTICIPATING IN, AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AROUND IT.

I'VE TALKED TO JONATHAN BEFORE TOO, ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO WE RAISE THAT? HOW DO WE MONITOR IT? AND THEN HOW MANY NON-RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY COMING HERE? BUT I CAN SAY, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF THAT

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I WILL, I WILL NEVER SUPPORT TAKING AWAY OUR PROGRAMS. I THINK THAT AT THE VERY LEAST, I PEPPER STAFF ALL THE TIME WITH MORE PROGRAMS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WANNA HAVE.

SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAKE AWAY THINGS SOMETIMES WHEN THEY'VE SERVED THEIR LIFE.

LIKE WHEN, YOU KNOW, EVIL ED GRAHAM TOOK AWAY THE SNOW DAY MM-HMM.

AND THEN CAME BACK.

BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT I THINK THAT, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY IS LIKE TAKING AWAY LIKE A PIECE OF LIKE THE SOUL OF CHINO HILLS.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES US UP.

IT'S LIKE, WE'RE NOT LIKE SOME OF THESE SURROUNDING CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE MOVE HERE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MONEY DOESN'T GROW IN TREES, BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S AN EASY FIX TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA CUT SOME PROGRAMS WHEN I FEEL THAT WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE THE STATUS QUO WITH LIKE, WE COULD EVEN HAVE MORE PROGRAMS. SO THAT KIND OF ALARMS ME WHEN I KNOW THAT YOU AND RAY MADE ME TALKING ABOUT THAT OR TAKING AWAY SOME PARKS.

I TOLD BEN, EVEN A POCKET PARK WHEN I DRIVE BY THE POCKET PARK IN OAK RIDGE BY YOU, IT'S LIKE, SURE, THERE'S NO ONE PLAYING IN IT.

BUT NOW THEY HAVE LIKE A GARDEN THERE AND YOU WALK BY.

AND VISUALLY, WE ARE ALL BENEFITING BY WHAT WE SEE WHEN WE DRIVE AROUND CHINO HILLS, WHETHER YOU LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT.

SO, UM, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT, BUT MAYBE FOR FURTHER TIME, WE, THE FIVE OF US, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DISCUSS HOW IMPORTANT THESE PROGRAMS ARE FOR US.

YEAH.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY'S, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND YEAH.

PEOPLE POINT TO THIS CITY AS, AS, UH, SOME OF THE FAC EVEN EASTER EXCITEMENT, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT OUR FOCUS WOULD BE ON, BECAUSE IT DRAWS A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST US? BUT THERE'S SOMETHING COOL ABOUT SHOWING OFF OUR CITY TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD AT A COST OF X, WHATEVER X IS, PEOPLE COME HERE BECAUSE THEY'VE HEARD OF THE REPUTATION.

SO IT IS, IT'S GONNA BE DEBATE POINTS, I SUSPECT AS TIME GOES ON.

WELL, IT IS JUST A MATTER OF WELL SAID.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE ZERO BASE BUDGETING.

THE, OUR STAFF HAS TO JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE AND THEIR EXPENDITURES.

WELL, WE AS A COUNSELOR, NEED TO LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS, AND I'M WITH YOU.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CUTTING THE PROGRAMS. I'M JUST SAYING LET'S ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS.

AND IF WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, HEY, THEY'RE WORTH WHATEVER IT IS WE HAVE, AND IF WE EVEN ADD MORE, SO BE IT.

BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MUCH, SO MUCH WE CAN DO.

AND AT WHAT POINT DO WE DIP DOWN TO WHERE WE HAVE NO RESERVE OR WHATEVER TO HONOR THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD, BECAUSE THEY ARE GREAT AND PEOPLE LOVED OUR CITY FOR THAT, AMONGST OTHER THINGS.

BUT YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO ASK OURSELF TOUGH QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL.

YEP.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

MR. MAYOR, REAL FAST.

UM, BASICALLY, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNEW THIS.

I WAS A FIREMAN AT ONE TIME.

I WAS UNION PRESIDENT FOR 10 YEARS.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, RETIREMENT FUNDS FOR US, IT WAS PERGS AND WE HAD LIKE SIDE LOANS.

WE HAD OBLIGATION.

WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OBLIGATION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? EVERYTHING IS PAID UP AS FAR AS RETIREMENT, OR IS THERE STUFF THAT WE, WITH ESPERA, DO WE HAVE AN UNFUNDED WE HAVE TO PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT, OR OH, YEAH.

FOR OUR LOAN BALANCES? UH, I, I'M GONNA ASK CHRIS TO, TO LOOK FOR, UH, I THINK, UM, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE CORRECT, UH, THE, THE QUESTION CORRECTLY IS DO WE HAVE UNFUNDED LIABILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH OUR ONGOING, UH, WE DO.

AND IT IS ROUGHLY 14 MILLION.

IS THAT, AM I READING THAT RIGHT? 14 FIVE.

OKAY.

I, I THINK THOUGH, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO DEFINE WHAT UNFUNDED, YOU KNOW, MANDATE MEANS.

UH, WE ARE FULLY PAYING OUR ONGOING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH, UH, WITH OUR, UH, PENSION COSTS.

UH, AN UNFUNDED, UH, UH, OBLIGATION IS WHAT IF EVERYBODY RETIRED TODAY, HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU NEED TO HAVE TO PAY THAT? WELL, THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN.

BUT WHAT IT DOES IS MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SYSTEM IS PROPERLY FUNDED, WHERE YOU SEE THAT BECOME A BIG ISSUE.

AND, AND I KNOW WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH PERS GOES BACK TO, UM, UH, EXPECTATIONS FOR THE RETURNS ON INVESTMENTS.

BECAUSE PENSIONS BASICALLY RUN ON THEIR INVESTMENTS IN THE STOCK MARKET.

THEY'RE EVERY CITY, EVERY PARTICIPANT HAS TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION.

BUT THE LION SHARE OF THE COVERAGE COMES FROM INVESTMENT RETURNS.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE A GREAT YEAR, THAT'S GREAT.

UH, BUT THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE, UH, PERS AND OTHER PENSION, UH, PROGRAMS HAVE NOT, UH, UH, MADE HIGH ENOUGH CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITIES.

AND YOU GET WHERE THAT BA, THAT UNFUNDED MANDATE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, UH, UH, RAY GROWS TO WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BECOMES THIS NEW BURDEN OF A, OF, OF PAYING.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE ACTUALLY SET ASIDE SOME ADDITIONAL RESERVES IN ORDER TO, UH, CARVE OUT, UH, A LITTLE MORE SECURITY.

IF IT'S 14 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF UNFUNDED, WE'VE GOT HOW MUCH? SIX, UH, 6.3 SET ASIDE TO HELP OFFSET THAT.

SO, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT RECENTLY, WHICH I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT.

YEAH.

UM, AND JUST THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, ARE CONSTITUENTS SECOND OR ARE EMPLOYEES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND BASICALLY MANAGING IT SO THIS WAY THAT

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NUMBER DOESN'T GET AWAY FROM US IN THE FUTURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

GOING BACK TO, UM, SURPLUS PROPERTIES, UM, CYNTHIA, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 84.

I DO LOVE ALL THE, THE GREEN BELTS AND, UH, OPEN SPACE.

I KNOW THERE'S A COST TO IT, AND I KNOW THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE AS A COUNSELOR ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BECAUSE THAT SUBSIDIES KEEPS ON GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER.

SO WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS TO FIND OUT A SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM.

ALSO, AS FAR AS, UH, PROPERTIES THAT WE DO OWN, SUCH AS YOU MADE A COMMENT, CARBON CANYON COMMUNITY BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT I WOULD MM-HMM.

LOOK AT.

THERE'S ALSO PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN IN CHINO, AND I JUST TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE NEED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE, AND IF THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO OUR CITY, LET'S GET RID OF 'EM.

CUZ THERE'S A COST TO IT.

WELL, AND AT SOME POINT, SHOPS TOO IS GONNA HAVE TO YEAH.

COME UP AS WELL.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THESE LARGE DEFICITS, YOU KNOW, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY LARGE DEFICITS IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, THEN YEAH, THESE ARE ALL, UH, A LARGE THING.

AND THEN JUST TO TOUCH BASE ON WHAT CYNTHIA HAD SAID WITH REGARDS TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AND IT BEING A SUBSIDY, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GAUGE THE PUBLIC ON HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY TO KEEP PROGRAMS GOING? CUZ THE WAY I SEE IT IS EVERY, HOW MUCH IS, HOW MUCH IS THE DEPUTY EACH TIME? ARE WE BRINGING A NEW ONE ON HALF A MILL QUARTER, QUARTER, QUARTER MILL, TWO TO THREE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PRIORITY FOR THE RESIDENTS? YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MORE PROGRAMMING VERSUS, NOT THAT WE'RE EVER GONNA CUT PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY, HOW DO WE BALANCE, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAMS WITH HOW MUCH THEY'RE WILLING TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR IT? SO, I DON'T KNOW, JUST, I KNOW WE HAVE A WHOLE LONG TIME FOR THIS.

I LOVE THIS DIALOGUE, THANK YOU.

BECAUSE ONE, YOU KNOW, I GET TO INTERACT WITH YOU ON ONE-ON-ONES, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE TEAM TO HEAR THE COUNCIL DEVELOP POLICY DIRECTION.

IT'S LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK AT, UH, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UH, PROGRAM AREAS, UM, CLOSING OUT THIS SLIDE, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, EXPENDITURE FOR THE NEXT YEAR IS 18.4 MILLION.

UH, THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 1.2 MILLION.

I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THE 18.4 IS THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE FOR, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY.

AS OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POINTED OUT JUST PRIOR TO THIS.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE WAY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM WORKS IS THERE IS A SMALL COMPONENT OF OUR STATION THAT SUPPORTS A COUNTY AREA.

SO THERE IS A REVENUE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHERE THEY PAY US, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, RENT, LET'S CALL IT, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

AND SO THE 18.4 IS MORE LIKE, WHAT WAS THE 17.9? SO THAT'S WHAT, WHEN YOU BALANCE OUT REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES.

BUT, UH, THIS IS ALWAYS THE, UH, EASIEST SELL, I THINK TO THE COUNCIL, THAT 18.4 MILLION FOR THE QUALITY OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES, EVERYTHING FROM AS SIMPLE AS BEING ABLE TO GRAB A BLOODHOUND, UH, TO HELP FIND A MISSING PERSON, TO FLYING A HELICOPTER OR, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER THE CITY TO LOOK AT, UH, UH, ANY NUMBER OF, UH, UH, ISSUES.

UH, WE DO LEVERAGE THAT 18 MILLION PRETTY HEAVILY IN ORDER TO GET EXCELLENT SERVICES.

SO, ALL RIGHT, LAST AND, UH, BUT NOT LEAST 16.5 MILLION IN C I P THIS YEAR, WHICH, UH, DANIEL WILL GO INTO IN MORE DETAIL.

SO LET'S TALK THE NUMBERS.

ULTIMATELY, WE ARE PROJECTING THAT WE WILL HAVE 149 MILLION WORTH OF ACTIVITY TOTAL, UH, IN THE CITY IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UH, WE WILL PUT A LITTLE MORE EMPHASIS ON OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR TOTAL, UH, BUDGET, UH, REVENUE FROM, UH, EVERYTHING FROM CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH IS OUR, UH, WATER OPERATION, SEWER OPERATION, UH, TO ALL OF THE OTHER PROGRAM AREAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FOUR ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY EIGHT 0.8, OR 149 MILLION.

UH, I ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE LARGEST, UH, PIECES OF THE PIE, BUT FEEL FREE TO DIVE INTO ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT, UH, STRIKES.

UH, YOU, UH, CHARGES FOR SERVICES AT 42%, UH, 62 ISH MILLION.

THAT'S OUR WATER SALES.

THAT'S OUR SEWER CHARGES.

THAT'S EVEN THE PASS THROUGH THAT, UH, WE RECEIVE ON BEHALF OF I U A, UH, MOST, UH, IF NOT ALL OF THAT IS IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, UH, PIE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, THAT'S A LOT OF THE OPERATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON IN PUBLIC WORKS.

WE ALSO GET REVENUE FROM OUR PROPERTY TAX, UH, LOOKING AT 13% OR, UH, 19 MILLION OF THE 149.

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UH, THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM THE HOMES IN OUR CITY, THE EQUIPMENT IN OUR BUSINESSES, UH, YOUR BOATS, YOUR HELICOPTERS, YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX ON.

WE ALSO, UH, HAVE ENJOYED, UH, A BETTER, UH, UH, SALES AND USE TAX, UH, UH, THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR.

AND IT REPRESENTS ROUGHLY 70%, I MEAN, 70%, SEVEN I WISH PERCENT, 7% OF, UH, OUR TOTAL REVENUE.

AND WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WHEN WE GET INTO GENERAL FUND FOR THAT.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT PROPERTY TAX IS GOING UP ROUGHLY 1.2 MILLION.

UH, WHILE WE ALL SEE IN THE NEWS REPORTS OF HIGHER INTEREST RATES SLOWING HOME SALES, UH, AS RECENT AS, UH, LAST FRIDAY, I SAT IN A ECONOMIC REPORT PUT ON BY, UH, BEACON ECONOMICS, UH, THE LOCAL, UH, EXPERT FOR OUR REGION.

UM, HOUSING PRICES CONTINUE TO, UH, REMAIN, UH, STEADY, UH, IN CHINO HILLS.

WE ALSO ANTICIPATE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, HOUSING STOCK COMING ONLINE.

BUT, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE, UH, STABLE.

UH, I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT A COUPLE OF THESE, UH, TAX AREAS WHERE WE MAKE OUR FORECAST, BOTH PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX, IN ADDITION TO THE, UH, UH, DUE DILIGENCE THAT'S DONE BY OUR OWN CITY TEAM, PRIMARILY IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO SUPPORTED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

WE, UH, ALSO EMPLOY, UH, EXPERTS IN THE FIELD.

UH, UH, HDL PROVIDES US WITH INSIGHTS INTO, UH, THE STATE, THE LOCAL REGION, AND, UH, DATA BASED ON OUR OWN, UH, BUSINESSES, UH, IN ORDER TO HELP US GET OUR CRYSTAL BALL FOR, UH, TAX REVENUE AS, UH, CLEAR AS POSSIBLE.

UH, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT OUR T O T OR TRANSIENT O UH, OCCUPANCY TAX GENERATED BY OUR, UH, HOTELS, UH, WILL BE UP, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY THIS YEAR.

UH, PRIMARILY A RECOVERY FROM COVID, BUT ALSO WE ARE BRINGING A WHOLE NEW, UH, HOTEL ONLINE.

I KNOW THEY GOT THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE FILL IN BEDS YET, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH, THAT HOTEL COMING ONLINE.

THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL WENT TO THE PUBLIC TO GET OUR T O T RATE INCREASE TWO YEARS AGO, UH, ALL OF THOSE ARE SHOWING, UH, IN ADDITION TO A STRONG, UH, HOTEL, UH, UH, UH, OCCUPANCY RATE IN CHINO HILLS.

UH, IT'S REALLY, UH, PULLING, UH, ITS OWN WEIGHT, UH, UH, IN THIS CATEGORY.

IT'S 2 MILLION OUT OF 128, BUT IT IS MY FAVORITE TAX BECAUSE IT IS, UH, UH, TO THE POINTS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MADE ABOUT THE, THE, UH, ATTRACTIVENESS OF CHINO HILLS.

I'M CERTAIN THAT OUR HOTEL BUSINESSES ARE GETTING, UH, HIGH, UH, UH, BED RATES.

THEY'RE GETTING HIGH OCCUPANCY RATES BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVE.

UH, WE'RE NOT IN, YOU KNOW, ANAHEIM NEXT TO DISNEYLAND, BUT WE'RE A DESIRABLE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S, IT SHOWS IN OUR, IN OUR T O T IS THAT, IS THAT RESTRICTED REVENUE OF HOW WE SPEND THAT.

UH, IT'S GENERAL FUND.

WE CAN SPEND IT HOWEVER WE LIKE.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE.

IT WASN'T THAT MANY YEARS AGO, THERE WAS HOVERING AROUND $700,000, AND NOW WE'RE AT CHIP PROJECTED FOR 2.2, WHICH IS GREAT TO SEE.

MR. MEER, I'M GLAD WE DID THAT LITTLE BUMP IN THE T O T CUZ IT DIDN'T COST US ANYTHING.

MR. ME, QUICK QUESTION.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, ON PROPERTY TAX, UM, I BELIEVE WE GET ABOUT 4% ACROSS THE BOARD ON PROPERTY TAX OF THE CITY, SUCH AS CITY OF CHINO FIRE DISTRICT.

WE GET ABOUT 15%.

I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION, UH, WITH OUR SUPERVISOR.

HAVE WE HAVE ANY, ANY PROGRESS ON THAT, UH, TOPIC? NO, NOTHING, UH, CONCRETE.

UH, AS YOU POINTED OUT, UH, OUR COUNTY SUPERVISOR, KURT HAGMAN, HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE.

UH, I'VE HAD, UH, A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY CEO AND THE, UH, CHIEF OF FINANCE FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET A LARGER SHARE.

I THINK 95% OF OUR PUBLIC PROBABLY DOESN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN THEY SEE THAT PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT, THAT SO LITTLE OF IT COMES TO THEIR LOCAL CITY.

UH, AND, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, UH, THE CITY WHEN IT WAS AT THE TIME IT WAS INCORPORATED, WE JUST GOT SUCH A LOW, UH, PROPORTION OF IT.

THE CHALLENGE, HONESTLY, IS THE COUNTY SUPERVI, UH, THE, I'M SORRY, THE COUNTY CEO HAS, YOU KNOW, OPENLY STATED TO ME, THE CHALLENGE IS WHAT HE DOES FOR CHINO HILLS MAY THEN BE LEVERAGED AGAINST THE COUNTY FOR

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OTHER CITIES.

UH, UH, IF HE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW, UH, OTHER CITIES THAT GET A VERY LOW PROPORTION OF THE, UH, PROPERTY TAX, AND THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT IF THEY WERE TO GIVE US, YOU COULD DOUBLE OUR PROPERTY TAX AND WE'D STILL BE AMONG THE LOWEST.

UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

WE'LL LOOK AT IT FROM EVERY ANGLE POSSIBLE.

THE GOOD THING IS, AND I'LL BE BLUNT, I ASKED LEONARD, AND, AND ROD CAN ATTEST LEONARD, IF THIS IS A HELL NO, JUST TELL ME NOW.

AND HE SAYS, IT'S NOT A HELL NO, BEN, BUT WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

SO I THINK IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PRESS.

UH, AND I, UH, DO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UH, SUPPORT FROM KURT, CERTAINLY, AND MAYBE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WE JUST HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WATERS ON HOW WE CARVE OUT SOME MORE MONEY FOR US.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

AND WHEN WE PLAYED AROUND WITH THIS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, AND KURT WAS ON AT THE TIME, WE, WE CARVED OUT, AS YOU PUT IT, CERTAIN AREAS THAT WOULD HAVE SOME ENHANCED TAXES FOR A WHILE OR ENHANCED PROPERTY TAXES, SOME SPECIAL ZONES, YES.

SHOPPING ZONES, ET CETERA.

BUT I KNOW THE COUNTY WAS REALLY PUSHING BACK ON JUST A GENERAL RAISE, BECAUSE WE ARE THE DONOR CITY.

MM-HMM.

OF 24 CITIES IN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.

NOW, OTHERS MAY PUT IN MORE, BUT PROPORTIONALLY WE GIVE MORE TO THE COUNTY THAN WE GET BACK.

WHERE PRO POSSIBLY, I REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO ASKING GARY OVERT AT THE TIME, SO WHO'S NUMBER ONE? HE SAID, CHINO HILL HILL IS NUMBER ONE AS FAR AS BEING, GIVING MORE MONEY THAN WE RECEIVE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CHANGED MUCH.

IT WOULD ALSO BE, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE RELUCTANT.

IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE RANCHO CUCAMONGA.

YEAH.

THE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN PROP 13 PASSED, AND THE ALLOCATION OF WHAT WAS LEFT, THE TWO-THIRDS CUT IN PROPERTY TAX BASED ON THE REDUCTION TO 1% FROM ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PERCENT, UH, A EIGHT, WAS THE ALLOCATION FORMULA THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE LEGISLATURE TO ENHA TO ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS THAT WERE IN GOING TO THE COUNTIES.

AND ANY CITY THAT DIDN'T EXIST PRIOR TO THEM WAS NOT CONSIDERED FOR DISTRIBUTION.

AND I'VE TALKED TO JONATHAN KAPAL, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOWARD JARVIS, UH, TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION.

HE SAID, YOUR CHANCE ON GETTING ON ANYTHING CHANGED ON THE, THE ALLOCATION, UH, CHANGE, HE SAYS IS NEXT TO LIKE ZERO.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

AND OF COURSE, THAT'S WHAT THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE RUNNING UP AGAINST IN DISCUSSIONS WITH LEONARD AND ANYBODY ELSE.

SO, I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S BAD TIMING.

UH, WE'RE STILL THE BEST CITY IN, UH, SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, UH, AND THE MOST AFFLUENT.

AND, UH, I GUESS THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED THE MONEY THAT BAD, THAT BAD.

SO, WELL, WHETHER OR NOT THEY BELIEVE IT, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO ASK FOR US, BECAUSE WE ARE, AS MOST DEFINITELY, AS ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE POINTED OUT IN MY ONE-ON-ONES, WE WE'RE REACHING THE, THE CEILING OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE REVENUE WE HAVE.

WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, GOOD STEWARDS, WE'VE SAVED MONEY, BUT AS KRISTA WILL CONSTANTLY REMIND ME, WE'RE A FAIRLY NEW CITY, AND THOSE RESERVES WILL CONTINUE TO BE STRAINED AS WE GET, UH, TO BE AN OLDER, UH, UH, CITY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THAT'S WHY WE, WE PUSH FOR, UH, QUALITY HOTELS AND GOOD TAX GENERATING BUSINESSES.

BUT YOU CAN ONLY GROW THAT SO MUCH.

PETER, TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, ENHANCED PROPERTY TAX THAT WE RECEIVED FROM SOME OF OUR COMMERCIAL, UH, AREAS.

UH, OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE SO SMALL COMPARED TO OUR, UM, UH, OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA.

WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNT, UH, THE COUNTY GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION.

NOW, LEONARD DID, UH, THE COUNTY C E O DID SAY HE'D BE, UH, OPEN TO REVISITING AND MAYBE EXPANDING SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE EXISTING PROGRAM.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE IT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AT A CH AT A TIME IF I HAVE TO.

BUT WE, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND REMEMBER AT THE TIME THAT THERE WAS A SUNSET TO THAT, TO THAT AGREEMENT.

IT, IT DOES, I WANNA SAY IT'S STILL, I WANNA SAY 25 YEARS.

IT WAS 25 YEARS, WHICH MEANS WE PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER 15 YEARS ON THAT.

SO, BUT ALL GOOD, GOOD DIALOGUE.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE TOTAL EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENT, AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, UH, WITH SO MUCH OF OUR ENTERPRISE ACTIVITY OCCURRING THROUGH WATER SEWER, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OPERATION WILL FALL HEAVILY IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, OTHER KEY AREAS, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY IS, UH, 12% OF, UH, OF EXPENDITURES.

UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT BIGGEST ONE MIGHT BE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

SO WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AS WE GET INTO, UH, A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS.

BUT, UH, LOOKING HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, MOVING PARTS, THE LARGEST, UH, UH,

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INCREASES ARE TRANSFERS, WHICH INCLUDES OUR SUBSIDIES, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS OPERATION.

AGAIN, GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF, UH, INCREASED COST AND CONTRACTS, INCREASED COST AND ENERGY, UH, OLDER BUILDINGS REQUIRING MORE MAINTENANCE.

UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, UH, THAT'S THE STORY FOR WHERE THESE, UH, UH, UH, INCREASES OR VARIANCES COME FOR EXPENDITURES.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES BY SALARIES, UH, I'M SORRY, BY CATEGORY SALARIES IS ONLY 20%.

UH, YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERY OTHER, UH, PIECE OF THE PIE, UH, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE IS OUR LARGEST, ALMOST HALF OF THAT.

AND AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, I'LL HAVE THE COUNCIL WAVE AND FLAG ME IF THEY WANT TO GO INTO ANY ONE OF THESE, BUT JUST DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THE SAME 151 MILLION OF EXPENDITURES, UH, LET'S GET NOW.

UH, WHERE I KNOW THE COUNCIL LIKES TO ROLL THEIR SLEEVES UP AND PAY, UH, A LOT MORE, UH, SCRUTINY TO IS OUR GENERAL FUND.

UH, AS I ALWAYS TRY TO POINT OUT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ANY CITY, UH, THE BIG NUMBER INCLUDES MANY THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, UH, DISCRETION OVER THE 151 MILLION.

UH, IF IT'S STREET MONEY, YOU GOTTA SPEND IT ON STREETS.

IF IT'S WATER MONEY, YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT ON WATER.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THAT IS WHERE THE COUNCIL HAS ITS MOST, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT.

SO WE ARE PROJECTING 55 MILLION IN REVENUE THIS YEAR, AND THE TEAM HAS BROUGHT YOU A BUDGET THAT SPENDS ONLY 55 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND.

UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT OF THAT 55 MILLION, 35% OF THIS WILL COME FROM PROPERTY TAX.

YOU'LL NOTE THAT THAT'S A MUCH LARGER NUMBER AS COMPARED TO THE PERCENTAGE WHEN YOU HAVE THE TOTAL, UH, OPERATIONS.

BUT SALES AND USE TAX IS AT 19%.

UH, ONE OF THE BENEFITS WE HAVE OF WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT, UH, UH, TO REVIEW OUR, OUR TAX BASE IS THEY POINT OUT AREAS WHERE WE THINK THAT MAYBE SOMEONE'S TAX PAYMENT GOT ALLOCATED TO THE WRONG COMMUNITY.

UH, THEY POINT OUT WAYS FOR US TO TRY AND, UH, UH, FILL THE GAP, UH, IN OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, TAX PICTURE.

AND, UH, ONE BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS HAS BEEN, UH, UH, THE WAYFAIR DECISION, WHICH HAPPENED, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THAT, UM, ME PERSONALLY, I CAN NO LONGER BUY ANYTHING OFF OF EBAY AND NOT HAVE, UH, AN IMMEDIATE TAX, UH, BILL FOR IT.

BUT NOW, THANKS TO THE WAYFAIR DECISION, MANY OF THE ONLINE TRANSACTIONS THAT USED TO GO ON TAX NOW ARE TAXED.

AND THAT MAKES ITS WAY BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY AS THE COUNCIL'S POINTED OUT WITH OUR, UH, HIGH, UH, INCOME LEVEL, I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE A LARGE PROPORTION OF OUR, UH, RESIDENTS BUYING THINGS ONLINE THAT USED TO NOT COME HOME, UH, IN THE FORM OF TAXES.

NOW A LOT MORE IS CAPTURED, UH, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO GENERATE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN LOCALLY AT THE POINT OF SALE WITHIN THE CITY, BECAUSE THAT HELPS MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE COUNTY POOL.

ANY DOLLAR THAT ISN'T DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, WE GET A PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE COUNTY POOL.

AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS PUSHING FOR SHOP CHINO HILLS, UH, AND, UH, QUALITY TAX GENERATING BUSINESSES TO THE BEST, UH, WE CAN.

UH, LOOKING AGAIN AT REVENUE FROM A, UH, THE ACTUAL, UH, DOLLAR POINT OF VIEW, YOU CAN SEE ONCE AGAIN, $1.2 MILLION MORE IN PROPERTY TAX, UH, $634,000 IN SALES TAX.

UH, AND, UH, WHILE IT'S A BIG PERCENTAGE OF 46%, STILL A STRONG NUMBER INCREASE IN, UH, T O T NEW HOTEL, LOTS OF THEM, UH, RECOVERING FROM, UH, COVID, UH, IS, IS IS THE MAIN DRIVER THERE.

MR. CITY MANAGER, COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON, ON THIS, UH, SLIDE HERE, CHARGES FOR SERVICE, WHY IS IT DOWN ABOUT 200,000? LET'S SEE IF I HAVE A NOTE ON THAT.

UNLESS, NO, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH MY FLIPPING.

AH, YES.

UH, WE, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TWO FACTOR ONE.

UM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING OUR, UH, UH, ENGINEERING, UH, USER FEE REVENUE'S GONNA BE DOWN, UH, UH, WHICH IS, UH, DEVELOPMENT BASED.

UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO SEEING A INCREASE THAT KIND OF MITIGATED THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IN OUR PASSPORT SERVICES.

UH, YOU MAY RECALL IN A RECENT BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, WE, UH, INCREASED OUR REVENUE.

UH, BUT, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NO THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, SO LET'S LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURES

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AGAIN.

WE'VE MATCHED OUR EXPENDITURES TO OUR REVENUE.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT BY DEPARTMENT, UH, THE, UH, LARGEST SHARE IS GOING TOWARD PUBLIC SAFETY.

18 MILLION OUT OF 55 IS 33%.

UH, AGAIN, UH, THIS IS, UH, ALWAYS, UH, A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW VALUE, UH, UH, HOW MUCH VALUE WE GET THERE.

UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BEING ANOTHER 14%.

AND THEN, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, INS AND OUTS OF OUR BUDGET, UH, ARE SHOW UP IN TRANSFERS OUT, UH, WHICH IS 19%.

AND THEN, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THE PUBLIC WORKS ACTIVITY OCCURS IN, UH, OUR, UH, ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WATER SEWER, THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S STILL GENERAL FUND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER LARGE SHARE IN, UH, 18% HERE.

UH, LOOKING AT THE DETAIL OF THE NUMBERS, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS IS THE MOST OBVIOUS, UH, SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION.

UH, LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, WE HAD A BALANCED BUDGET PLUS A LARGE INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY PARK.

WHAT YOU SEE THERE IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS DROPPING SEVEN ISH MILLION IS LAST YEAR WE WERE FOCUSED ON INVESTING IN THAT PARK.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY GENERAL FUND, UH, RELATED, UH, C I P PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S WHY, UH, YOU SEE THIS GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE DRAMATICALLY LOWER THERE.

UH, LET'S TALK, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GENERAL FUND RESERVES.

UH, WE'VE TOUCHED ON IT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE DISCUSSION TODAY.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, OF THE 43 40 4 MILLION OF TOTAL GENERAL FUND RESERVES, UH, THE COUNCIL HAS SQUIRREL AWAY THROUGH STEWARDSHIP, THROUGH GOOD DECISION MAKING.

TWO THIRDS OF THAT RAINY DAY FUND IS WITHIN YOUR CONTROL.

UH, IF WE HAVE A PROJECT WE NEED TO DO, LIKE WE DID WITH, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY PARK, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO, TO MAKE THAT, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

IF WE HAVE, UH, GOD FORBID, A, A, A JUDGMENT OF SOME SORT, IF WE HAVE, UH, A NEW FACILITY THAT WE WANT TO USE, UH, UH, TO, TO, UH, BUILD, UH, IF THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE A GRANT THAT MAY, UH, PROVIDE, UH, ASSISTANCE TOWARDS SOME, THESE ARE ALL VERY SIMILAR TO OUR OWN PERSONAL SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.

77%, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, 33 MILLION IS, UH, AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

UH, AS ART POINTED OUT, IF WE DON'T FIX OUR, UH, REVENUE TO, UH, EXPENDITURE IMBALANCE, WE WILL EAT AWAY AT THAT DRAMATICALLY OVER THE NEXT, UH, FIVE YEARS.

UH, BUT, UH, WE HAVE THAT SECURITY, UH, THAT MANY CITIES DON'T HAVE.

IT IS UNCOMMON, UH, TO HAVE, UH, EVEN THE 61% THAT WE HAVE, MANY CITIES FIND, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 25% GINORMOUS.

SOME CITIES HAVE POLICIES WHERE THEY WON'T GO BELOW 10%, BUT IT REALLY DOES SHOW, UH, THE, THE COUNCIL, UH, HAS, UH, PUT ASIDE MONEY WHENEVER WE HAVE, UH, UH, LARGER REVENUE THAN, UH, EXPENDITURES IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.

AND SO IT'S BUILT UP, UH, AGAIN TO, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ'S QUESTION.

YOU CAN SEE THERE OUR PENSION STABILIZATION, UH, UH, INVESTMENT, WHICH IS 6.3 MILLION, SO ALMOST HALF OF OUR THEORETICAL UNFUNDED MANDATE GAP.

UH, WE'VE GOT 6 MILLION IN OUR BACK POCKET THAT WE COULD USE TOWARD THAT.

AND, AND I SHOULD POINT OUT, IN CASE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE ISN'T AWARE, ONE OF THE REASONS ALSO THAT WE HAVE THIS PARS PROGRAM, INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING THAT TOWARD, UH, THE, TO THE COUNTY, TO OUR, UH, PENSION, UH, PROVIDER IS ONE, WE GET A BETTER RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT THAN WE WOULD IF WE JUST PAID IT FORWARD.

UH, PLUS WE ARE AT THE WHIM OF ESP ESPERA, OUR PENSION PROVIDER.

THEY COULD EASILY DECIDE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE, THE, THE MEASURING STICK, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE BACK.

UH, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR OWN POCKET, IN YOUR OWN CONTROL.

AND THE COUNCIL MADE THAT DECISION SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THAT WAS FUNDED NOT JUST BY GENERAL FUND, BUT WATER AND OTHER, UH, PROGRAMS AS WELL.

UH, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HERE, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT, UH, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, BALANCED AS FAR AS INCREASES AND DECREASES.

WE GET, YOU KNOW, SOME, UH, PROJECTED, UH, UH, RETURNS ON WHERE ALL OF THESE AS AN INVESTMENT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, OP

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FROM AN OPERATIONS POINT OF VIEW, WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY HERE ANYWHERE.

UH, SO LET'S GET UP TO OUR ELBOWS AND THE GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIES.

UH, THE FIRST, UH, AND THE LARGEST IS OUR LANDSCAPING LIGHTING DISTRICTS, UH, IN, IN ESSENCE HAS BEEN POINTED OUT ALREADY.

UH, THE CITY, UH, WHEN WE WERE INCORPORATED, UH, IN 1991, WE INHERITED THESE L AND L DISTRICTS FROM THE COUNTY.

THEY WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE COUNTY PRIOR TO OUR INCORPORATION.

AT THE TIME THEY WERE ESTABLISHED, THE CITIES IN, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST, UH, CITIES IN CALIFORNIA HAD THE AUTHORITY AS A COUNCIL, AS THE GOVERNING BODY TO CHANGE THOSE ASSESSMENTS BASED ON NEED.

UH, IN 1996, UH, THAT AUTHORITY WAS TAKEN, UH, UH, AWAY FROM US LOCAL JURISDICTIONS BY THE TAXPAYER THROUGH PROPOSITION TWO 18.

AND SO THE PICTURE IS IN 1991, THE COUNTY, UH, IS, HAS THIS AREA WATER DISTRICT EIGHT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, UH, THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR SETTING UP MECHANISMS FOR COVERING, UH, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH OUR MEDIANS PARKS, UH, OTHER AREAS.

AND THE KEY TO A L AND L ASSESSMENT IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A DIRECT BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY IN ADJACENT TO THAT, UH, UH, UH, EXPENDITURE.

SO IF YOU LIVE ON THE CORNER OF FIRST IN MAINE, AND THERE'S A PARK AT FIRST IN MAINE, YOU ARE GETTING A BENEFIT FROM THAT PARK.

AND THAT'S HOW THIS, UH, ASSESSMENT IS DERIVED.

PROP TWO 18 CHANGED THE RULES, NOT ONLY FOR WHAT, WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT, UH, ASSESSMENT, BUT ALSO HOW DO YOU DEFINE BENEFIT.

AND SO WE FIND THAT THIS SUBSIDY IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIX SIMPLY BY RAISING THE L AND L RATES.

AND SO THE COUNCIL AND I AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT TOOLS EXIST IN ORDER TO, UH, RAISE THIS.

IT COULD VERY WELL BE, UH, UH, DIFFICULT TO CHANGE THE L AND LS, BUT THERE ARE A VARIETY OF O OF OTHER TAX MEASURES THAT WOULD, UH, BE A TOOL FOR THE COUNCIL TO GO TO THE VOTERS FOR, IN ORDER TO GET A GENERAL OR SPECIAL TAX, UH, TO CHANGE THIS, UH, UH, THIS SUBSIDY.

UH, ONE LAST POINT IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN THIS WAS INSTITUTED, THE CITY WAS A DIFFERENT PLACE, YOU KNOW, IN 91, SO MANY OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE EITHER DEVELOPED SINCE 91 96 DON'T HAVE ASSESSMENTS.

UH, I'VE MET WITH A VARIETY OF RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, SOME SAY I'M WILLING TO PAY MORE IN ORDER TO KEEP THE QUALITY OF LIFE I HAVE IN CHINO HILLS.

UH, YOU KNOW, A, A MINORITY, BUT STILL SOME HAVE SAID YOU ALREADY GET PROPERTY TAXES.

SO THAT'S WHERE, UH, THE, UH, SUBSIDY IS ACTUALLY PAID BY MY PROPERTY TAX.

UH, I OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE COUNCIL IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, BUT, UH, WHAT IS OBVIOUS TO STAFF IS THAT 4 MILLION IN THE WHOLE IS HARD TO KEEP ALIVE OVER TIME AND IT'LL GROW.

I KNOW THAT DANIEL AND THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM BOTH CURRENT AND PAST HAVE DONE A LOT TO CONTROL THOSE COSTS.

UH, EVERYTHING FROM TURF REPLACEMENT TO, UH, UM, L E D REPLACEMENTS FOR LIGHTING, UH, CHANGING THE MOWING OR THE WATERING SCHEDULES TO, UH, MAINTAIN THE QUALITY, BUT AT A LOWER EXPENSE.

UH, MUCH OF THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

I KNOW THAT DANIEL WILL BE OVER THE NEXT YEAR WORKING WITH THE TEAM TO TIGHTEN, UH, DOWN EVEN MORE AND LOOK FOR AREAS WHERE TECHNOLOGY MAY HELP IN THOSE COSTS.

BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AREAS WHERE THE, THE ASSESSMENT JUST ISN'T HIGH ENOUGH, UH, IT, IT, IT WILL LIKELY, UH, RESULT IN, UH, SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT DIFFERENT, UH, REVENUE STRENGTHS.

MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUMP IN, UH, YES.

I WANT TO SAY COMPLIMENTS TO THE CITY, PUBLIC WORKS, CITY MANAGER.

UM, WE'VE DONE SOME REMARKABLE THINGS.

MINOR LIGHTS, UH, L E D LIGHTS.

SO OUR ELECTRICAL COST PROBABLY WAS REDUCED BY HALF.

YEP.

THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN.

UH, RECYCLED WATER USING A LOT OF RECYCLED WATER TO WATER GREEN, GREEN OPEN SPACES OR, UH, PARKS AND SO ON.

I WOULD IMAGINE THIS NUMBER PROBABLY WOULD BE CLOSER TO MAYBE FOUR AND A HALF, $4.5 MILLION THAT IF WE DIDN'T MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BUSTED YOUR BUTT TO DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.

AS FAR AS COST SAVINGS, YES, IT'S A BIG NUMBER AND I THINK WE AS A COUNCIL PROBABLY WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON WHAT WE COULD DO.

BUT IF WE COULD ELIMINATE THIS $3.9 MILLION SOMEWAY IN THE FUTURE,

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THEN THE COST FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES WOULD ONLY BE HALF OF WHAT, WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, THUMBS UP.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO, UH, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT, UH, SUBSIDIARY, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MY CREATIVE SLIDE TITLE, UH, MORE LIKE THE COMMUNITY SERVICES INVESTMENT.

AND I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE POINTED OUT THAT IT REAL, THE SUBSIDY IS TOO NEGATIVE A CONNOTATION FOR WHAT THIS TRULY IS.

BUT AS, AS WE'VE ALREADY DELVED INTO, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT THIS, UH, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES DOES A LOT IN A KEY COUPLE KEY DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO I WANTED TO SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE FEES.

THAT'S WHERE THE REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED COMES FROM NOT ALWAYS FULLY COVERING THE COST, BUT, UH, A FEE-BASED PROGRAM LIKE THE ADULT EASTER EGG SCRAMBLE.

UH, THEY PAY GOOD MONEY TO BE ABLE TO TURN OUT THE LIGHTS AND RUN AND FIND EASTER EGGS.

VERY DIFFERENT THOUGH, UH, FROM THE, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? EASTER EXCITEMENT.

EXCITEMENT.

NOT THE ADULT EASTER EGG SCRAMBLE.

UH, IT'S FREE, RIGHT, JONATHAN, IS IT FREE FOR, UH, EASTER EXCITEMENT VERSUS WHAT DID IT COST FOR? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ADULT EASTER EGG SCRAMBLE? $16.

$16.

SO THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR FULL FREIGHT THERE.

UH, ADULT SPORTS, CHILDREN SPORTS, UH, CONTRACT CLASSES, SUMMER DAY CAMPS, AND TINY TODDS ALL HAVE FEE FEES ASSOCIATED.

UH, AS THE COUNCIL'S ALREADY DISCUSSED, WE WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT COMMITMENTS TO BE, UH, UH, SUBSIDIZED WITH LOWER THAN MARKET, LOWER THAN FULL EXPENDITURES RATES.

UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, UH, EVERY YEAR WHEN WE SET OUR, UH, RATES THROUGH THE FEE, UH, UH, UH, STUDY.

WE LOOK AT, UH, SHOULD OUR RENTALS BE HIGHER? WHAT'S THE CURRENT MARKET FOR A PROGRAM LIKE A SUMMER DAY CAMP? BUT ALL OF THESE ARE PART OF THE KEY, UH, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE IN, IN CHINO HILLS.

SOME OF THEM WE PAY FOR.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT CATEGORY OF NON FEE BASED PROGRAMS, UH, ACTIVE ADULT PROGRAMS, THE BOAT PARADE, WHICH WE WORK WITH, UH, UH, OTHER AGENCIES TO PULL OFF AND VOLUNTEERS, BUT IT STILL COSTS MONEY TO, UH, OFFER THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE WE DON'T CHARGE FOR IT.

CONCERTS IN THE PARK IS AN INCREDIBLY POPULAR, UH, UH, PROGRAM.

UH, UH, BUT NO ONE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE SMALL REVENUE WE MAKE FROM THE PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE SELLING AT THE EVENT, UM, WE'RE PROBABLY, UH, EXPORTING OUR GOODWILL TO A LOT OF NEIGHBORING, UH, UH, UH, RESIDENTS.

UH, DO I SEE, UH, SOMEONE LEANING IN, MIKE IS WHAT DOES CONCERTS COST US CUMULATIVELY FOR A YEAR? UH, WITH ALL THE BANDS WE PAY IN, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 16,006 ALONG WITH OUR AUDIO CONTRACT WITH AUDIO.

SO WE'RE SITTING AT AROUND PROBABLY ABOUT 25 OR 30 GRAND.

OKAY.

SO 25 TO 30 GRAND FOR THE MICROPHONE.

JUST SOMETHING I KNOW IN OTHER CITIES THAT THEY'LL DO WITH SOME OF THESE BIGGER NON FEE EVENTS IS THAT THEY SEEK OUT SPONSORSHIPS.

THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.

WE SHOULD CONSIDER PARTNERING SOMEONE PARTNER.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE? YOU KNOW, YOU GET, YOU KNOW, HEY, BANK OF AMERICA, 10 GRAND FOR THE WHOLE SUMMER.

YOU GET TO HAVE YOUR NAME ALL OVER, OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IS THERE EXCITEMENT, SMART AND FINAL, OR STATE OF BROTHERS? CAUSE WE'VE MET THE, THOSE CEOS AT LAST, UM, LAST YEAR'S STATE OF THE CITY.

YEAH.

THE LOCAL BRANCH ONES.

MM-HMM.

.

NO, I, I THINK THAT'S A, A VALUABLE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, OPTION.

I KNOW THAT, UH, MANY, MANY MOONS AGO WE WOULD DO SPONSORSHIPS LIKE IN OUR REC BROCHURE AND THAT KIND OF WAN, BUT SOMETHING MORE PROMINENT LIKE A CONCERTS IN THE PARK MIGHT BE EASY FOR US TO GET A BUSINESS TO GET BEHIND.

WELL, BECAUSE WE DO COMMUNITY ADVERTISING FOR THE BOAT PARADE.

MM-HMM.

, I KNOW WE SEE THE ONES THAT GARNER A LOT OF ATTENTION.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT KIWANIS IS ATTACHED TO BOAT PARADE.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S LIKE STUFF THAT HAS LAKE GARNER'S A LOT OF ATTENTION.

I I REMEMBER THE DENTIST, MELBA MELBA, SHE USED TO, SHE USED MELBA MAYS USED TO SPONSOR.

YEAH.

MEL, MY PAID TO HER TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE FOUNDATION DOING A SPONSORSHIP OF CONCERTS.

OH YEAH.

I THINK ANY OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR, LIKE LARGER LOCAL BUSINESSES WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING AND IT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO ADVERTISE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY SHOP CHINO HILLS AND KEEP SOME OF THE SUBSIDY AWAY, OR INVESTMENT AWAY .

OKAY.

SORRY.

CONTINUE.

JUST TO, TO, TO CLOSE OUT, UH, ALL THAT CANDY THAT WE GIVE OUT FOR HALLOWEEN TRICK OR TREAT.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T CHARGE FOR THAT.

UH, DR.

MELBA MAYES LOVES THAT ASPECT OF THIS .

YEAH.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S IT, YOU KNOW, UH, TRICKER, UH, UH, CANDY PROVIDED BY THE, THE BEST DENTIST IN TOWN.

YES.

SO I, I LIKE THAT .

UH, UH, AND, AND I, I ABSOLUTELY WANTED TO PUT THE LAST ONE ON THE NON FEE BASE BECAUSE IT REALLY SPEAKS TO THAT WHOLE CONCEPT

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OF INVESTMENT.

WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS GIVING US, YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF SERVICE THAT NOT ONLY DEFERS COSTS, BUT BUILDS THAT, UH, KIND OF, UH, PERSONAL COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE THROW THEM A SIMPLE PARTY EVERY YEAR.

UH, WE GIVE THEM SOME GIFTS.

WE PROVIDE, UH, SMALL RECOGNITION.

BUT I, I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT'S $15,000, UH, UH, FOR THE COST THERE.

OF COURSE, IT'S MONEY WELL SPENT, BUT ALL THE THINGS THAT, AGAIN, AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL GETS IT, SO I'M GONNA STOP DRIVING AT HOME, IS THAT MAYBE WE CHARGE SOME FEES, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO COVER A LOT OF PROGRAMS. BUT THERE'S A TON OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WE DON'T HAVE FEES.

AND WHEN YOU THROW IN THE LAST TWO CATEGORIES THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE CITYWIDE OVERHEAD FOR, YOU KNOW, VARIETY OF, UH, NON-DIRECT COMMUNITY SERVICES OPERATIONS, BUT OUR IT DEPARTMENT, VEHICLES, FACILITY COSTS, ALL OF THAT GOES INTO THAT 6.5 MILLION INVESTMENT AS OPPOSED TO A SUBSIDY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU THROW OUR STAFF IN HERE, ALL OF YOU HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT HOW SUPPORTIVE YOU ARE OF STAFF.

UH, WE GET A LOT DONE WITH THE 15 FULL-TIMERS IN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND, UH, SOON TO BE AS HIGH AS 95 PART-TIMERS DURING THE SUMMER.

UH, AND WE ALWAYS CARRY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, UH, PART-TIMERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

SO I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE VALUABLE, AGAIN, FOR JEFF IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, TO SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES IN THAT, YOU KNOW, CUZ YEAH, SIX, $6 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.

UH, I KNOW IN MY INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC, THEY SEE THIS AS A QUALITY COMMUNITY AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT COSTS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AT OUR, YOU KNOW, AT OUR PARKS AND THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS FOR SURE.

SO THIS IS THE BIG SCARY ONE THAT, UH, ART, UH, BROUGHT UP EARLY ON IN THE CONVERSATION.

ALRIGHT.

AGAIN, THE LOGIC HERE IS, UH, WE ALWAYS, UH, USE THE ANALOGY OF A CRYSTAL BALL.

UH, WHEN YOU USE THAT CRYSTAL BALL TO LOOK AT THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, WE'RE PRETTY CERTAIN THAT THIS IS WHAT THE FINANCIAL PICTURE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

ENDING FUND BALANCE OR RESERVE 43 MILLION AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SO FAR.

UH, BUT THEN WE MAKE CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE NEXT FOUR SUBSEQUENT YEARS.

WE THINK THAT OPERATING REVENUE'S GONNA GO FROM 55 AND CHANGE TO 56 AND A HALF ROUGHLY, AND THEN INCREMENTALLY GO UP TO A FINAL FIFTH YEAR AT 61.9.

AGAIN, FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE THINK REVENUES COULD GO UP.

UH, AND THEN WE USE A SIMILAR MODEL FOR EXPENDITURES, BUT CONSERVATIVE ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE IS PROBABLY A LITTLE HIGHER, NOT A LITTLE LOWER.

WHEREAS ON REVENUE, IT'S A LITTLE LOWER, NOT A LITTLE HIGHER.

AND SO THAT GAP STARTS TO BUILD.

UH, BUT WHERE IT REALLY HITS US HOME IS THE INVESTMENT WE'RE MAKING IN COMMUNITY SERVICES AT SIX AND A HALF MILLION.

CURRENTLY SEVEN AND A HALF, FOUR YEARS OUT FROM THERE.

UH, AND THEN THAT SUBSIDY FOR, UH, LANDSCAPE AND LIGHTING, UH, COULD GROW FROM 4 MILLION THIS YEAR TO, UH, APPROACHING 6 MILLION.

AND THAT REALLY DOES IMPACT, THAT'S 10%, ESSENTIALLY OF THE 27 28, UH, BUDGET IS, THAT'S GOING TO THE IMBALANCE AND L AND L.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS DONE A LOT OF, UH, LOOKING AT.

WE'VE RUN A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS FOR THE COUNCIL.

AND, UH, OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AGAIN ABOUT HOW WE WORK ON THAT.

I, MAYBE THIS IS A LITTLE TOO INTO THE WEEDS, BUT IF, LIKE YESTERDAY AT OUR MOSQUITO, UM, BOARD MEETING, UH, IT CAME UP THAT JUST AS A LITTLE MOSQUITO DISTRICT, THEY'RE GEARING UP FOR THE STATE MANDATE TO HAVE TO BUY ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR THEIR FLEET.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATE IN FUTURE BUDGETS? OR HOW DO WE ALLOCATE FOR THAT AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UH, MY, UH, BOARD MEMBER FROM RANCHO CUCAMONGA CHIMED IN AND SAID, YEAH, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD ORDERS IN FORD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND THEY JUST KEEP PUSHING US BACK CUZ THEY CAN'T EVEN PURCHASE OR THEY CAN'T EVEN PRODUCE 'EM.

SO IF WE HAVE TO REDO A LARGE CHUNK OF THE FLEET TO BE AN EV, YOU KNOW, EV AND YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED WITH THAT AT THE CITY YARD, LIKE, ARE WE WORKING ON THAT OR IS IT SOMETHING WE'VE ANTICIPATED OR I'LL LET, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS, UH, DIRECTOR RESPOND TO THAT.

UM, AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'RE PLANNING ON INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PREPARING FOR EV UH, CHARGING STATIONS, BOTH FOR, UH, UH, FOR STAFF, UM, AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF PURCHASING EV VEHICLES, NOT JUST YET.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S STILL TOO, TOO SOON.

UH, I THINK THE RE OR THE, THE MANDATE WILL BE 2035.

SO WE STILL HAVE SOME TIME, BUT YES, WE DO WANNA GET, UH, WE DO WANNA BE PREPARED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

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GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

COOL.

BEN, YOU KNOW, THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THIS, THE GROSS SIMPLIFICATION IS JUST THE PURE MATH OF IT.

IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE THAT ENDING FUND BALANCE IN FIVE YEARS OUT, I'M CONVINCED THAT STAFF DOES EVERYTHING THEY CAN DO AND TO, TO LIMIT THE EXPENDITURE AMOUNTS.

THE SUBSIDIES ARE THE SUBSIDIES.

WELL, LET'S JUST BYPASS THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.

THE ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS WE GONNA COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATE TERM OR, OR TYPE OF REVENUE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE, I, YOU KNOW, WE STALL ON THAT THING.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ANSWER IS YET, BUT THAT'S HOW WE ANSWER.

THAT'S THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE CAN ANSWER THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING, UH, SUBSIDY.

AND YEAH, I'M NOT LOOKING AT TRYING TO CUT COMMUNITY SERVICE PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE OUR BUDGET LOOK BETTER.

THAT'S THE ONE THING WE HAD A FIGHT, AND I AGREE WITH, UH, CYNTHIA ON THAT.

I, I'M NOT THINKING THAT, UH, OUR RESIDENTS HAVE LEARNED TO ENJOY EVERYTHING THAT WE PROVIDE TO THEM.

NOW, THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THAT YET.

WE LIKE IT.

UH, IT HELPS OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING IF WE DON'T COME UP WITH MORE MONEY.

I'M SAYING, I THINK OUR EXPENDITURE CONTROLS ARE GOOD AND THEY'RE THERE.

SO WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE? SIMPLE.

THE ONLY SIMPLE ANSWER IS WE GOTTA COME UP WITH REVENUE SOMEPLACE ELSE.

DO WE, DO WE UP OUR GAME WITH GRANTS, SEARCHING OUT GRANTS? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY.

UH, WE, WE DO TRY TO LEVERAGE ANY, UH, TIME WE CAN OTHER PEOPLE'S DOLLARS.

UH, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH GRANTS.

UH, WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT, UH, A, A DIFFERENT SHARE OF, UH, OF THE PROPERTY TAX, UH, THAT GOES, UH, CURRENTLY MOSTLY TO THE COUNTY.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DRIVE MORE BUSINESS IN CHINO HILLS, THE MORE TAX DOLLARS WE CAN GET, THE BETTER SALES TAX.

UH, WE'VE GOT SOME KEY, UH, UH, HOPEFULLY CHANGES COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH, UH, COSTCO AND, UH, AND, AND OTHER MAJOR BUSINESSES AND POTENTIALLY FILLING SOME OF THOSE, UH, VACANT.

UH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A MULTI-PRONGED, PRONGED APPROACH AND SOME, UH, PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, UH, FUTURE ASSESSMENTS.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE BEST WAY TO MOVE THIS NEEDLE MADE IN A MAJOR WAY WILL BE TO GET THE, UH, COMMUNITY AND THE TAXPAYERS AND SPECIFICALLY THE VOTERS, UH, BEHIND, UH, UH, UH, INCREASING REVENUE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

PARCEL TAX OR CFDS OR WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PAY FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE ONLY SOLUTION.

YEAH.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO TALK TO THE CITY OR THE COUNTY ABOUT IS ALL OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE'VE HAD, ARE WE REALLY GETTING ALL OF THAT VALUE IN, IN ALL OF THOSE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LEGITIMATE.

IF WE'RE BUILDING THESE NEW SHOPPING CENTERS AND COMMERCIAL CENTERS, WE OUGHT TO BE GETTING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT.

WE SHOULD BE.

BUT IF THEY'RE FALLING BACK ON THAT FORMER ALLOCATION FACTOR AND SAYING WE'RE ONLY GETTING 4% OF THAT, THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND THAT'S A WAY THAT MAYBE EQUITABLY, WE COULD SAY, LOOK, WE COULD FIGHT THE FACT THAT WE'VE CREATED ALL THESE NEW HOTELS, ALL THESE NEW SHOPPING CENTERS, AND WE OUGHT TO BE GETTING ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE'RE SERVICING IT.

MM-HMM.

.

AND WE OUGHTA GET THAT WITH GROWTH SIMPLIFICATION TOO.

SO, NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD POINT WITH, WITH A MINOR NUANCE TO THIS STATEMENT.

UM, NEW COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WE DO GET THE FULL, UH, ASSESSMENT.

WE GET THE COUNTY SHARE AND OURS, UH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS IT'S SUCH A SMALL COMPONENT YEAH.

OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE NEEDLE AS MUCH.

BUT, UH, THERE ARE SOME HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY IN HOW THAT PROGRAM WAS DESIGNED.

IT HAS TO HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS ASSESSED VALUE FOR IT TO COME ON THE ROLE IN THIS NEW PROGRAM.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY HAS SAID THEY'D BE FLEXIBLE IN REVISITING SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE EVEN MORE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

SALES TAX WAS A QUESTION ON MY LIST TOO, SINCE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE THAT, UM, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT JLL FOCUSES ON SALES TAX GENERATING BUSINESSES FIRST, BUT THEN WE QUESTION IT WHEN THE SHOPS OPENS, LIKE ANOTHER SPA, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A LIMIT OF HOW MUCH COULD BE OPEN WITH NON, UH, SALES TAX GENERATING IN THE SHOPS, YOU MADE AN EXCEPTION THAT CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE ONE.

CUZ YOU'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING IN THERE THAN NOTHING.

BUT ARE WE STILL PRESSING HARD THAT THAT IS THEIR PRIORITY THOUGH? AND ARE THERE GONNA BE SOME TIMES WHERE EVEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO OPEN AND WE'D RATHER HAVE IT EMPTY, CUZ WE WANT SOMEONE THAT'S PRODUCING SALES TAX IN THERE.

MM-HMM.

IS THE TATTOO REMOVAL IS NON-SALE TAX REVENUE.

RIGHT.

UH, IT'S A SERVICE, SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT SALES.

YEAH.

SO NO OF OFFENSE IF SOMEONE'S GETTING A TATTOO REMOVED.

BRIAN, I KNOW YOU NEED YOURS REMOVED, BUT LIKE, I'M JUST A CHEESE GRATER .

YEAH, EXACTLY.

SO GRADER.

BUT IT'S LIKE, IT'S A, I I GET THE FACT THAT LIKE, WE WANNA FILL THOSE SPOTS, BUT THERE'S LIKE THAT BALANCE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA TAKE A HARD POSITION SAYING,

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NO, WE WANT BUSINESSES HERE THAT GENERATE SALES TAX.

WHEN YOU TALK TO DARRELL AND WE TALK TO DIFFERENT, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN JLL GOES TO PITCH STUFF, I MEAN, IT GOES BOTH.

I MEAN, IT'S A BALANCE OF EMPTY VERSUS SALES TAX.

IT'S POINT.

SO MANY THINGS DON'T, YOU KNOW, GROCERY STORE, MOST OF THE STUFF YOU BUY GENERATES NO SALES TAX.

I DON'T FAKE BAKE ANYMORE, BUT THEY CHARGE SALES TAX ON TANNING.

I USED TO THAT YEARS AGO.

NOT ANYMORE.

OH, SURE.

I DON'T.

I HAVE FARMERS CAN NOW, BUT SERIOUSLY.

SO SOME OF THAT STUFF IS INTERESTING TO, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME, YOU KNOW, LIKE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT DO TO CHURCH SALES TAX.

BUT WE HAVE BEEN PRETTY LAX WHEN IT MM-HMM.

WITH THE SHOPS, WITH OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT IN PLACE AS FAR AS, UH, THE RATIO OF TAXABLE VERSUS NON-TAXABLE SERVICES.

AND WE'VE KIND OF LET IT GO.

I KNOW RAD CHATTED WITH THEM QUITE OFTEN ABOUT, OKAY, LET'S JUST JUST FILL IT, JUST FILL IT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON THAT AS FAR AS, UH, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH DARRELL.

YEAH.

AND, AND THAT AGREEMENT ENDS AT SOME POINT, RIGHT.

WITH OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE, IS THAT WE HAVE A SUNSET SETTING OF OUR AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, AND IF ANYONE IN THAT AUDIENCE KNOWS, UH, WHEN, BUT IT'S ONLY A FEW YEARS OUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA LOSE THAT.

THAT WAS BUILT IN 2008, SO MM-HMM.

WE'RE WHAT, 15 YEARS DOWN? ASSUME SOME.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE ONE, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT THAT, UH, REQUEST COMES THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WE LOOK AT IT, ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS FOR ME IS THE SHOPS ISN'T 100% OR 98% LEASED OUT.

SO IF THAT, UH, TATTOO PLACE COMES IN, THERE'S STILL A, A VACANCY THAT IF WE HAD A GOOD TAX GENERATOR.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT AND, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE SPOT.

I WOULD DEFINITELY HOLD THE LINE IF WE ONLY HAD ONE OR TWO SPOTS IN THE SHOPS.

BUT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS A THRIVING, UH, UH, UH, CENTER.

AND SOMETIMES WE DO MAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT.

I'M SURE WE GET HARDLY ANY SALES TAX, UH, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE YOGA MATS SOLD AT, UH, UH, YOGA SIX.

YEAH.

BUT I SEE TONS OF PEOPLE THERE WITH LATTES AND, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS YOU POINTED OUT, UH, CYNTHIA IS TO KEEP SOME TYPE OF, UH, ACTIVITY THERE, BUT WE, WE CAN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE.

AND I'LL 0.1 LAST THING IS THAT OUR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT JLL ASSISTS THE SHOPS IN FINDING TENANTS.

SO WE DEFINITELY CAN CONTROL OUR PEOPLE TO SAY, FIND US, UH, TAX GENERATORS, NOT GYMS, AND, YOU KNOW, SERVICE, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.

I KNOW THAT VERIZON WIRELESS OFFERS A DISCOUNT TO CITY EMPLOYEES IF YOU SHOW YOUR ID.

HAVE WE EVER TAKEN LIKE A SERIOUS APPROACH WITH THE SHOPS AND WITH THE CITY TO CREATE A REALLY LIKE ROBUST PROGRAM FOR EMPLOYEES TO GET DISCOUNTS AT MOST OF THE SHOP STORES? OR IS THAT YOU THINK IT'S NOT WORTH IT? HAVE WE EVER TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE WHERE LIKE A REAL PROGRAM WHERE THE CITY EMPLOYEES KNOW IF THEY'RE EMPLOYED THERE, THEY CAN GO OVER THERE INSTEAD OF ANOTHER SHOPPING CENTER AND GET A DISCOUNT? UM, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY EXPLORE.

I THINK EVERY BIT HELPS.

YES.

OH, I DON'T WORK FOR THE CITY.

I WORK FOR THE PEOPLE.

YEAH.

MR. MEER REAL, REAL FAST.

COULD I JUMP IN? UM, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BLD.

UM, WE'VE DONE A 180 ON THAT THAT USED TO COST US MONEY, UH, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING PROBABLY A SURPLUS OF A ABOUT FOUR TO 500,000.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO KUDOS TO YOU STAFF AND, UH, CITY COUNCIL FOR DOING THAT.

ALSO, WATER WITH OUR WELLS, ONCE THEY GO INTO EFFECT WHERE WE CAN START USING OUR OWN WATER, IS THAT GONNA BE A COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY? BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO, TO BUY WATER IN METROPOLITAN? YES.

SO THERE'S A COST SAVINGS THERE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, SO WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS TRYING TO, UM, JUGGLE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DO BELIEVE OTHER CITIES IN THE AREAS SUCH AS COLTON, SUCH AS ONTARIO, HAVE DONE INITIATIVES FOR SALES TAX.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO DO THAT.

BECAUSE WE DO, WE DO OFFER A LOT OF FANTASTIC THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY, OPEN SPACE, GREEN BELTS, UH, FOR OUR KIDS.

WE PROVIDE ALL THESE, THESE SERVICES AND I STILL WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 84.

ALL THREE OF MY KIDS GREW UP HERE IN THE CITY.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, I WANT, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY TODAY STILL GET WHAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO.

BUT, UH, WE, WE GOTTA SORT OF ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES.

WE CAN'T BE AFRAID OF IT.

WE GOTTA TALK TO THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS.

WE NEED TO TALK TO LEONARD HERNANDEZ.

WE NEED TO TALK TO PETER ROGERS SINCE HE WORKS FOR SOMEBODY WE ALL KNOW.

UM, BUT WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA START TALKING ABOUT THIS AND BEING SERIOUS ABOUT IT.

I AM.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND JUST TO CHIME IN ON WHAT CYNTHIA HAD SAID, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S DISAPPOINTING JUST THE, THE LOST POTENTIAL WHEN WE DRIVE DOWN THE 71 AND YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD,

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UH, TOYS ARE US AND KIDS ARE US JUST HANGING OUT PERFECT.

AND ALL THE EMPTY PADS.

CONCRETE PADS THAT COULD BE GENERATING, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF REVENUE FOR US AND INSTEAD WELL, AND THE EGYPTIAN RESTAURANT IS GETTING LIKE A NEW URBAN LEGEND BECAUSE I HAD, I HAD A STUDENT TELL ME THAT, LIKE OUT THERE ON SOCIAL MEDIA LAND THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT FINISHING BUILDING IT BECAUSE IT'S HAUNTED.

THAT'S A THING OUT THERE NOW CUZ IT'S EMPTY.

IT IS KING TOWN.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MUMMY ROAMING THE PARKING LOTS AT NIGHT.

YEAH.

SO, YEAH.

BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM THAT DOES THE BEST THAT WHAT THEY CAN, BUT WE ALSO NEED THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO STOP UP.

AND I WAS TALKING TO BEN ABOUT TRYING TO DO A FULL COURT PRESS ON, ON THE OWNERSHIP IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO GET AROUND THAT.

YEAH.

TO KIND OF NUDGE THEM IN A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WAY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

BUT WE'RE VERY LIMITED AS FAR AS WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY.

NO, WE DON'T.

SO WE, UH, JLL OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAVE BROUGHT POTENTIAL, UH, TENANTS TO THE OWNER OF THAT CENTER.

AND, UH, OUR TWO, UH, CONSULTANTS, UH, ERIC AND BLAKE WITH JLL WILL TELL YOU THAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THEM IS THAT IT'S A, UH, NON, UH, UH, LOCAL OWNER WHO IS VERY WEALTHY AND THIS REALLY IS JUST AN INVESTMENT FOR THEM.

NOT A THRIVING, YOU KNOW, GOING CONCERN AS THEY WOULD SAY IT IN BUSINESS LANGUAGE.

IT'S A PLACE TO PARK MONEY, IT'S A PLACE TO OWN A PROPERTY.

SO HIS EXPECTATIONS FOR RENT ARE SO HIGH THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET GOOD TENANTS.

UH, I HAD A CONVERSATION ROUGHLY A YEAR AGO WITH THE OPERATIONS MANAGER THERE, UH, AND HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE FELT HE WAS DOING ME A FAVOR BY HAVING HOBBY LOBBY THERE BECAUSE IT'S GENERATING SALES TAX.

I SAID, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU'RE GETTING TOP RENT, I'M SURE FOR THAT.

OH, THAT DOESN'T MATTER AS MUCH.

YOU KNOW? AND SO IT'S JUST A WHOLE DIFFERENT PARADIGM.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE, YOU KNOW, WITH NO DISRESPECT TO THE OWNER, SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD BUY IT AND RUN IT MORE LIKE A BUSINESS WHERE THEY WANT THOSE VACANT BUSINESSES.

THEY WANT THE PADS FILLED AND GENERATING ECONOMIC, YOU KNOW, INTEREST.

UH, THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, FUTURE FOR THAT CENTER AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS.

UH, THERE'S SOME UNITS PARKED THERE TO SATISFY THE ARENA OBLIGATIONS.

MAYBE, UH, LOOKING AT IT FROM A HOUSING AND RETAIL WILL CHANGE EITHER HIS PERSPECTIVE OR MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO NEW OWNERSHIP.

UH, BUT WE'RE STILL A WAYS OFF BEFORE THAT.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY PUSHING TO TRY AND GET, UH, UH, NEW TENANTS THERE THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT THE CITY.

SO, OKAY.

I HADN'T HEARD ABOUT IT BEING HAUNTED THERE THOUGH.

UH, UH, UH, VICE MAYOR MORAN, I DO PAY ATTENTION EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY.

AND I'D HAVE TO SAY ROUGHLY 90% OF THE TIME I DRIVE BY THERE, SOMEBODY'S OUT FRONT TAKING A SELFIE THAT PLACE.

MAN, IF YOU GOT IT TO BE AN OPEN BUSINESS, YOU'D BE MAKING TONS OF MONEY THERE.

BUT I GUESS THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE.

SET UP A PHOTOGRAPHY SHOT UP THERE.

I'M STARTING TO WIND DOWN.

UH, BUT AGAIN, WELL NOTE, WELL TAKEN FROM ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, THIS FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK IS GRIM.

UH, AND IT ISN'T SUSTAINABLE, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU WE'LL HAVE, UH, NEW, NEW DISCUSSION.

UH, I DO WANT TO ALSO CALL OUT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW, UH, RAY MARQUEZ HAS BROUGHT UP.

IN ADDITION TO ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVERS WE'RE USING TO MOVE REVENUE, THERE MAY COME A TIME WHERE WE GO A LEGISLATIVE ROUTE, UH, UH, THROUGH YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE VARIETY OF, UH, UH, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES, THERE MAY BE A TIME, AND AS ART POINTED OUT, THE LEGISLATION IS WHAT MADE IT WHERE WE DON'T GET OUR FAIR SHARE OF PROPERTY TAX.

THERE MAY BE A TIME IF WE DON'T HAVE GOOD NEGOTIATIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE, UH, UH, MOVEMENT WHERE WE'LL GET ONE OF OUR LOCAL LEGISLATORS TO HELP WRITE A BILL TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR US.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND THEN OFFER THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH ANY SPECIFICS THAT YOU WANT.

BUT I'LL GIVE YOU THE BIG MOVING PICTURE FOR EACH, UH, UH, PROGRAM IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS.

SO OF THAT $1.9 MILLION INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES, 1.1, 1.2 OF THAT IS THE SHERIFF'S CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S THE MAIN MOVING PIECE, UH, IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UH, I'M SORRY, DID I SKIP SOMETHING? OH, OKAY.

YOU PASSED OVER.

CITY CLERK.

OKAY.

CITY CLERKS.

WELL, I DON'T WANNA DO THAT CUZ THEY HAVE GOOD NEWS.

UH, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE, UH, DECREASE IN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE IS, UH, WE'RE NOT DOING AN ELECTION THIS YEAR.

UH, IT COSTS THEORETICALLY OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EVERY TIME WE DO AN ELECTION.

SO THAT MAJOR REDUCTION THERE IS, UH,

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UH, OUR, UM, NOT HAVING AN ELECTION IN 2324.

UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO SEEING, AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, UH, THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT PROCESSING PASSPORT APPLICATIONS.

AND, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T, UH, SET OUR RATES, UH, WE, WE ARE PRETTY EFFICIENT WITH IT.

AND SO WE GET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER.

SO THAT'S THE BIG MOVING PIECE IN, UH, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, CITY, UH, CYNTHIA AND I WILL, UH, WOULD BE HAPPY WITH FOREGOING THE ELECTION NEXT YEAR.

.

AH, YEAH.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE AT LEAST FROM THE CITY COUNCIL PER DULY NOTED.

UH, I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, AS WE KNOW, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE KEY VACANCIES, SO THAT'S, UH, LIKELY GOING TO REDUCE OUR, UH, EXPENDITURES FOR SALARIES.

UH, BUT, UH, WE'RE ALSO MAKING PROJECTIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A MURKIER THAN, UH, THAN OTHER CRYSTAL BALL.

UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, MORTGAGE RATES INCREASING, UH, WITH THE COST OF, UH, LUMBER AND THE INABILITY TO GET LUMBER.

UH, WE HAVE WHAT WE THINK IS A REASONABLE PROJECTION OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE.

UH, BUT, UH, WE WILL WAIT AND SEE, UH, AND THAT DEVELOPMENT GENERATES, UH, PERMIT APPLICATIONS, INSPECTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT, THAT MOVES THE NEEDLE ON, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

SORRY, UH, QUICK QUESTION, BEN, AS I KNOW WE HAVE A NET WHAT FOUR INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES WHILE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND, AND TOUCH ON THE CHANGE IN PERSONNEL FOR EACH ONE? SURE.

THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AT THE END.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO GOING BACK, ONE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE'RE PROPOSING A NEW, UH, IT, UH, TECHNICIAN.

UH, THAT PERSON WILL BE SERVING, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS, UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN SO, UH, AUTOMATED AND COMPLEX THAT WE'RE FINDING THAT A LOT OF, UH, UH, EXISTING IT RESOURCES ARE GOING TOWARD OUR SCADA OR WATER OR SEWER, UH, OPERATIONS.

AND SO, UH, THEY COULD USE THEIR OWN, UH, IT, UH, TECHNICIAN THERE.

UH, IN, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW POSITIONS.

COMMUNITY SERVICES, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT IN COMMUNITY SERVICES.

A, UH, UM, PRIMARILY, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE O O AND M COST INCREASES, UH, THE PRINTING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, UH, REC BROCHURE IS GOING UP.

UH, AND WE'RE GOING BACK TO OUR NORMAL LEVEL OF SERVICE AFTER SHRINKING, UH, DUE TO COVID.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE A COUPLE YEARS OUT FROM COVID, SO THAT'S PRIMARILY THE INCREASES.

BRIAN, IN TERMS OF PHYSICALLY PRINTING IT, DO WE HAVE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET A MA UH, A METRIC OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ IT VERSUS LOOK AT IT ONLINE? IS IT WORTH IT STILL? YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S A DECENT CHUNK OF CHANGE, RIGHT? YEAH.

I, I THINK JUST ANECDOTALLY, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT NOT ONLY THE, UH, USEFULNESS OF IT, BUT THE QUALITY OF IT.

AND SO, UH, I'M SURE WE CAN DO SOME TYPE OF SURVEYING TO SEE, AND I THINK THE STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT SOME POINT IN TIME, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'D WANT, UH, PAPER ONLINE ONLY HYBRID.

AND I THINK THE, THE DATA SHOWED THAT IT, FROM A SURVEY THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIKED GETTING IT, BUT A SURVEY OF PEOPLE THAT USED THE SERVICE, CUZ THEN IT'S KIND OF SKEWED, RIGHT? , THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT.

I THINK IT WAS, UH, A ONLINE SURVEY THOUGH, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACK OF THAT, YOU A SHOTGUN IT TO EVERYBODY WITH AN ADDRESS IN TOWN, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.

SORRY, JUST PUT IT NO, NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A QUESTION.

IT'S, IT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS A COST CENTER FOR US, BUT IT'S DESIGNED TO PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. UH, THAT'S THE BIG STUFF IN COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, FINANCE, UH, A LOT OF, UH, THE MOVING PIECES, UH, FOR FINANCE IS, UM, WE HAVE, UH, OUR COMMUNITY FACILITY DISTRICT, UH, UH, PAYMENTS AND OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE FEE PAYMENTS COME OUT OF, UH, FINANCE.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TAKING CARE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITIES USUALLY IS WHAT MOVES THE, THE NEEDLE HERE, BUT AT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS VARIANCE, IT'S, IT'S NOT A LARGE ONE THERE.

UH, IN PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WE HAVE TWO NEW POSITIONS, UH, ONE, UH, IN, UH, THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE, UH, DIVISION AND ONE IN THE SEWER DIVISION.

UH, BUT THIS IS A PERFECT, UH, UH, EXAMPLE OF WHERE INFLATION IS HITTING US PRETTY HARD.

OUR OPERATIONS

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AND MAINTENANCE, UH, UH, 2 MILLION, 2.7 MILLION INCREASE.

THERE IS EVERYTHING FROM THE COST OF FUEL, THE COST OF VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, THE COST OF OUR CONTRACTS FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, CUSTODIAL CUSTODIAL SERVICES, AND THE COST OF ELECTRICITY AND GAS, AND ALL OF THE UTILITIES, INCLUDING WATER.

SO IT REALLY, THIS ONE, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANY IS WHAT AFFECTS THE WORLD, AFFECTS PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS HERE.

YEAH.

AND PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS LINE VERSUS THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND SALARY AND BENEFITS IS GOING UP FIVE AND A HALF IN, IN OPERATIONS IS ACTUALLY 7.1.

SO IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING THEM MORE, IT'S THE COST IS GOING UP YEAH.

CONSIDERABLY.

AND WE, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS OR WHO DOESN'T KNOW THAT EVERYTHING COSTS MORE NOW, RIGHT? AND WE CONTRACT OUT A LOT OF OPERATIONS IN PUBLIC WORKS IN ORDER TO GET THE MOST EFFICIENT, COST EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, SOLUTION.

IT'S, IT IS EASIER TO CONTRACT OUT TO A LARGE LANDSCAPING COMPANY RATHER THAN RUNNING OUR OWN FULL LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE OPERATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UH, I THINK I MISSED ONE, BUT, UH, TWO, UH, ARTS, UH, SUMMARY FOR PERSONNEL CHANGES.

UM, WE ALL, EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MATCH WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION, WHAT OUR CITY NEEDS TO OUR STAFFING EXPECTATIONS.

SO IN THE SENIOR, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING TO RECLASS OUR HR ANALYST TO, UH, SENIOR HR ANALYST TO A HUMAN RESOURCES SUPERVISOR.

WE HAVE A VERY SMALL HR SHOP.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEX COMPLEXITY IN, UH, WHAT'S DONE IN HR, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO, UH, HAVE THE NEEDS MATCH, UH, THE JOB TITLE.

I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE NEW IT TECH THAT'S GONNA BE SERVING IN PUBLIC WORKS, BUT STILL UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S I OFFICE WHERE IT RESIDES, UH, IN COMMUNITY SERVICES.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WHEN I STARTED HERE 16 YEARS AGO, 17 YEARS AGO, THE OPERATION HAD A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND TWO MANAGERS OVER COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FUNCTIONAL AREAS.

UH, UH, OVER THE YEARS, WE, UH, CHANGED THE FULL STRUCTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT, UH, WHERE WE HAD A DIRECTOR AND THEN COORDINATORS, BUT WITH NO MIDDLE MANAGEMENT, COVID HIT AND WE SHRANK OUR PROGRAM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAD, UH, MORE DEMANDS OF STAFF AND HIGHER EXPECTATIONS AND NEEDS.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT, UH, WE RECLASS WHAT IS CURRENTLY A SENIOR COMMUNITY SERVICES, UH, SUPERVISOR POSITION TO A COMMUNITY SERVICES MANAGER IN ORDER TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT, ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, UH, SCOPE OF DUTIES, UH, FOR THAT PROGRAM, UH, IN THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, UH, DIVISION, UH, DEPARTMENT, SORRY.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO RECLASS SIMILARLY TO THE CONVERSATION FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES.

UH, OUR FACILITY SUPERVISOR, UH, THE SCOPE OF WORK AND, UH, WHAT'S, UH, COMMON IN THE INDUSTRY IS MOVING FROM A FACILITY SUPERVISOR TO A CAPITAL PROJECTS AND FACILITY SUPERINTENDENT, UH, UH, MORE, UH, UH, REFLECTIVE OF THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON AND THE ABILITIES OF OUR STAFF TO DO THAT.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW ASSOCIATE ENGINEER, UH, IN THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN THE ENGINEERING DIVISION, UH, MATCHING THE POSITION TO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND THEN TWO NEW MAINTENANCE WORKERS IN PUBLIC WORKS, AGAIN, IN FACILITIES AND IN, UH, OUR, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, SEWER, UH, UH, DIVISION.

AND I THINK THAT LEADS US, UH, TO THE FINAL BIG NUMBER SUMMARIES, UH, 150 POSITIONS TO 1 54.

IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THE MOST WE HAD PRIOR TO THE 2008 DOWNTURN WAS 1 59, 1 61, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

SO WE'RE STILL NOT TO THE STAFFING LEVEL THAT WE HAD, UH, MANY MOONS AGO.

AND WE CAN EASILY SEE THAT, UH, OUR OPERATION IS A LOT MORE COMPLEX AND A LOT MORE ROBUST THAN IT WAS 15 ISH.

SO, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO.

UH, AND THEN WE'RE, UH, UH, HOLDING THE LINE, UH, ON THE PERMANENT PART-TIME.

YEAH.

YEAH.

ONE QUICK COMMENT ON THE RECLASSIFICATIONS OF INDIVIDUALS.

UH, I THINK FROM A SUCCESSION PLANNING, UH, SITUATION OR, UH, THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD THING.

MM-HMM.

UH, I THINK WE KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THOSE RECLASSIFICATIONS AND WELL DESERVED.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RETIREMENTS.

AND THE LONGER WE'RE ON THE COUNCIL, THE OLDER STAFF GETS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE, UH, IF THEY LOOK FORWARD TO RETIREMENT AS MUCH AS WE DO, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING.

SO, C SUCCESS

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PLANNING IS A GREAT THING IN RECOGNIZING PEOPLE ALONG THE LINES SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S, UH, A FUTURE FOR THEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT OUT, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IT REALLY IS.

IT'S, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO DANIEL FOR C I P, LET'S GO THROUGH THE BOOK AND SEE IF THROUGH YOUR, NOW I'VE MET WITH ALL OF YOU.

WE'VE ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UH, IN THE TABS, IN THE BOOKS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH, OKAY.

PROPOSE RAISE A HANDS, BECAUSE THIS WAS VERY THOROUGH.

SOMETIMES WE GO PAGE BY PAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO DO THAT THIS TIME.

I'M GETTING HEAD SHAKE.

NO HEAD SHAKE.

NO HEAD SHAKE, NO.

YEAH.

AND RAISE.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.

I THINK MANY OF US WROTE DOWN SOME OF THE KEY POINTS THAT WE WERE GONNA BRING UP.

YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF REVIEWING.

UH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S REALLY PENDING IN MY MIND AS FAR AS, UH, QUESTION MARKS OR, OR CONCERNS OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEEN RAISED ALREADY.

AWESOME.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, GAVE A THUMBS UP TO PERFECT FOR THE, THE PUBLIC.

UH, THIS IS THE WORKSHOP.

WE WILL HAVE A, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BUDGET AT IN, IN JUNE.

SO IF ANYTHING COMES UP FROM THE COUNCIL BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DANIEL WHO CAN WALK US THROUGH OUR C I P BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, BEN.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL, UH, STAFF, JEFF.

UM, WE'RE BY HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, SO OH, GOOD.

THANKS.

YES.

ABOUT HALF HALFWAY.

ABOUT HALF.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, THE WAY, UH, WE BROKE UP THE, THE CIP P PORTION IS WE HAVE COMPLETED PROJECTS, WE HAVE ONGOING PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, CIP P PROJECTS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

UM, I WON'T GO OVER ALL OF THE TOTAL, EXCUSE ME, THE COMPLETED AND THE ONGOING PROJECTS.

UM, I WILL HAVE 'EM LISTED.

I WILL TOUCH ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT AT ANY POINT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT I, UH, DON'T DISCUSS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TO, TO STOP ME AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, UH, WE HAD, UH, THIS, UH, UH, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 12 COMPLETED, UH, CIP P PROJECTS.

UM, THE FIRST ONE BEING THE, UM, UH, THE CITYWIDE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN STUDY.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE EVALUATED OUR ENTIRE SEWER SYSTEM, WANTED TO ENSURE THAT, UH, ONE, IT WAS STILL FUNCTIONAL, IT WAS OPERATIONAL, BUT TWO, THAT IT WAS ABLE TO MEET, UH, CURRENT AND FUTURE DEMANDS.

UM, WE, WE HAVE A, A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT WE WILL BE REVIEWING OVER THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS AND, AND FUTURE YEARS TO IDENTIFY ANY FUTURE PROJECTS.

UM, THE, THE PROGRAM DOES IDENTIFY, UM, SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE, UH, WE'RE REQUESTING AN ASSOCIATE ENGINEER IN THE ENGINEERING DIVISION, SO THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN LEAD UP, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED HERE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, GOING INTO, UH, INTO STREETS.

I WANNA HIGHLIGHT ON THE PAINT AND DRIVE AN ENGLISH CHANNEL PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS COMPLETED BACK IN 2016 IN TERMS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG PEYTON AVENUE, THE WIDENING, AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CHANNEL.

UH, YOU MIGHT BE SAYING, WHY ARE WE'RE BEING THIS NOW? UM, EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED IN 2016, THE MITIGATION THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT JUST RECENTLY WAS COMPLETED.

SO WE'RE NOW FREE AND CLEAR, UH, WITH MITIGATION.

UM, SO WE CAN PUT THAT, THAT PROJECT TO REST.

UM, AND THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THE LOS RONALD CITY FOSTER SCHOOL EAST, UH, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, WE, WE OFTEN LOOK AT PROJECTS, UH, IN THE LOS RONALDS AREA.

UH, WITH THIS, UH, SPECIFIC PROJECT WE SPENT, OR WE INVESTED 1.1 MILLION, UM, AND THAT WAS STREET SIDEWALK CURB, UH, GUTTER IMPROVEMENTS ON VARIOUS STREETS, INCLUDING LOS RAMOS, UH, EXCUSE ME, SU UH, INCLUDING GERD AVENUE LUGO, AND AL MOLINA BOULEVARD.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, DANIEL, DAN, BEFORE YOU GET OFF OF THAT, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WITH RESPECT TO THE SAFETY ON STREETS.

YES.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WOODVIEW ROAD, THE WANG PROPERTY.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE INTENT FOR US TO WAIT TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS TO WOODVIEW ROAD, BETWEEN WOODVIEW ROAD, BETWEEN PEYTON AND PIPELINE UNTIL THAT DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS.

BUT WE HAVE MORE AND MORE ACCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALONG THERE.

UH, IT'S A MAIN THOROUGHFARE FOR ANYBODY IN MY DISTRICT TO GET KIDS DOWN TO CHINO HILLS HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, AND ALSO RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO GO TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, THE RESTAURANTS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND SANTA BARBARA DEVELOPMENT.

UH, UH, WHAT WOULD BE, OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF DOING THAT STREET IMPROVEMENT AT THIS POINT? AND AT SOME POINT DO A COST SHARING OR MAKE THE GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE OR COULD BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A MESS.

IT, IT, IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

I, I, I'LL, I'LL START AND I'LL LET DANIEL, UH, FILL IN.

I, I THINK WE HAVE DONE PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT THERE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT, THE ISSUE IS IT'S A TWISTY, IT'S TWISTY ROAD.

AND I, I THINK THE GOAL WOULD

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BE WITH A NEW ROAD ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WANG PROPERTY, WE WOULD ABANDON THAT, THAT ROAD.

YEAH.

UH, UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE, IT WOULD FOR US TO DO THAT IN ADVANCE.

BUT, UH, IT'S MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SO THAT THE COUNCIL KNOWS, OKAY, IF WE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN SOME REASONABLE TIMEFRAME, UH, RATHER THAN, UH, MAKING IT AN OBLIGATION OF THE DEVELOPER, WE COULD DO IT WITH SOME TYPE OF COST RECOVERY.

BUT, UH, I WOULD ASSUME WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD GRANTS FOR SAFETY, UH, PIPELINE, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIANS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

MM-HMM.

, OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A STRETCH OR NOT, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S AN UNSAFE ROAD BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, RICKY RACER, UH, DECIDES THEY CAN TAKE IT FASTER THAN THEY DO, AND WE HAVE A TURN TURNED OVER CAR.

BUT IF WE COULD GET SOME GRANT MONEY UNDER SAFETY AUSPICES TO, UH, IMPROVE THAT AND DO THAT NOW.

CAUSE I KNOW THE, THE THOUGHT IS WE ABANDONED THE EXISTING ROADWAY.

SO ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ENCROACHED WITH THEIR BACKYARDS ONTO WOODVIEW, UH, AT SOME POINT THAT'D BE A, A PRIVATE STREET OR WHATEVER, THAT THEY'D HAVE THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S WORTHY, OR WORTHY OF LOOKING AT, AT LEAST.

SO WE HAVE AN IDEA.

I WOULDN'T WANNA SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF STAFF TIME DOING IT, BUT IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME JUST ROUGH IDEAS, I THINK IT'S, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

SOME OF THE CHALLENGES JUST OFFHAND WILL BE ONE FINANCIALLY.

UM, AND THEN TWO, UH, JUST LAND ACQUISITION.

WE DON'T OWN THE LAND, SO WE'D HAVE TO, UH, NEGOTIATE WITH A DEVELOPER OR THE OWNER OF THE LAND TO SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO ALLOW US TO INSTALL THAT ROAD.

UM, BUT AGAIN, SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, DANIEL, SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME BUTTONS I HAVE, JUST GIMME A LOOK AND I'LL ADVANCE YOUR SLIDES FOR YOU.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

UH, LET'S SEE.

GIMME A SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, SO ON THIS SLIDE HERE, UH, THE ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE WAS THE PAYTON DRIVE, UH, EUCALYPTUS AVENUE TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODIFICATION, UH, J JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHAT WE DID WAS WE EVALUATED THAT INTERSECTION.

THERE WAS A HIGH VOLUME OF ACCIDENTS.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS, IT WAS CREATING SOME CONFUSION IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF SIGNAL HEADS THAT WE HAD ON THERE.

SO IN THE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND DIRECTIONS, WE REMOVED THE, THE PROTECTED PERMISSIVE SIGNAL HEAD, AND WE, UH, CONVERTED THAT INTO A PROTECTED LEFT.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE INSTALLED A RIGHT TURN OVERLAP, UH, FROM, UH, SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION ON PEYTON TO, UH, TO GO ON TO YUKO BUTTU, UH, BECAUSE OF THE HIGH VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT WAS HEADED TO, UH, TO THE PARK.

SO, UM, IN SPEAKING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UM, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE MADE A, A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVE, UH, GOOD CHANGE TO THE INTERSECTION.

UH, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS, BUT, UH, WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY, ANY SIGNIFICANT ACCIDENTS.

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.

UH, LOOKING AT THE CITYWIDE WATER, RECYCLED WATER MASTER PLAN STUDY, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH, UM, UH, WITH THE SEWER STUDY, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EVALUATE, UH, OUR WATER AND RECYCLED WATER SYSTEM.

AGAIN, LOOKING AT CURRENT DEMANDS, LOOKING AT FUTURE DEMANDS, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING THAT IS GONNA BE REQUIRED UNDER ARENA.

UM, UM, SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THAT STUDY.

SO WE WILL, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CLOSELY AND, UH, BRING THAT FORWARD, UH, IN UPCOMING C I P YEARS.

UM, IF YOU CAN GO BACK, BEN, REALLY QUICK HERE.

SO I WANNA JUMP BACK UP.

UM, AND LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC TO NO L E D REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, UM, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT IN TERMS OF JUST TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT.

UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER IS, BUT SOMEWHERE IN ABOUT 80 SOME TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UH, SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO OUT AND, UH, AND MAINTAIN THAT PROPERLY.

UH, A LOT OF THE SIGNALS ARE SOME OF THE OLDER SIGNALS WHERE WE HAVE THE OLD SIGNAL HEADS, WHERE THEY'RE, UM, WHERE THEY GO OUT PRETTY FREQUENTLY.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REPLACE THE, THE SIGNAL BULBS AS, AS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY, UH, JUST THIS LAST GO ROUND, WE REPLACED 300, UH, BULB HEADS.

SO, UM, SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THAT WE WORKED ON, AND WE PLAN ON DOING THIS EVERY TWO YEARS, WHERE WE GO OUT AND, UH, TO THE POINT WHERE EVENTUALLY THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE, UM, L E D.

AND WHILE WE'RE DOING THOSE REPLACEMENTS OF BULBS, ARE WE, UH, ACTIVELY PURSUING THE YELLOW OUTLINE OF THE, UH, STREET LIGHTS AS WELL? WE HAD A PILOT PROJECT WHERE WE SELECTED A FEW INTERSECTIONS, UM, AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE IF THOSE ARE A SUCCESS.

AND IF, UH, IF IT IS, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO INSTALL THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

YEAH, I MEAN, IT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A VISUAL REMINDER THAT THE SIGNALS ARE THERE.

YEAH.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE, UM, SIGNALS THAT GO OUT DUE TO, UH, POWER OUTAGES.

UM, IT'S THAT REFLECTIVE MATERIAL THAT REALLY STANDS OUT SO THAT HOPEFULLY, UH, MOTORISTS WILL, WILL COME A STOP AT THE INTERSECTION.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW AS WE GO INTO MAJOR ONGOING PROJECTS, UM, WE DO HAVE 30 MAJOR ONGOING PROJECTS.

UM, UH, AT THIS POINT, UH, A

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COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ARE, UH, THE COMMUNITY PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, AS BEN TOUCHED ON, UM, EARLIER, THAT THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE HAVE COMPLETED, UH, UH, A GOOD AMOUNT OF WORK AT THAT PARK RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE, UH, REPLACED THE ARTIFICIAL TURF AT FOUR OF THE SIX FIELDS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE REPLACED THE, OR WE REMOVED THE EXISTING DIRT AND CONVERTED THAT INTO ARTIFICIAL AS WELL.

THERE WERE SOME, UH, BATHROOM RENOVATIONS, UH, SOME REPLACEMENT OF DAMAGE FENCING, UH, REPAINTING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.

UH, WE STILL HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL FIELDS THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE THAT'LL BE DONE THIS WINTER.

UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, ADDING NEW SCOREBOARDS AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE, UH, THE SPLASH PAD.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON.

WE PLAN ON COMING BACK TO COUNCIL PRETTY SOON HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, UH, WITH A, UH, AN AGREEMENT WITH A CONSULTANT TO DESIGN THE SPLASH PAD.

UM, WE, I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME MONEY THAT, UH, WE NEED TO SPEND PRETTY SOON HERE.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET ON THE BALL AND, UH, UH, AND MEET THOSE DEADLINES.

NEXT SLIDE.

ALL RIGHT.

AS WE LOOK AT, UH, SOME OF THESE, UM, PUBLIC FACILITIES, UH, THE HVAC SYSTEM REPLACEMENT AS, AS BEN ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE DO HAVE, UH, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A NEWER BUILDING, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME, SOME AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UH, SO WHAT THIS HVAC SYSTEM REPLACEMENT PROJECT WILL DO IS IT'LL REPLACE THE ENTIRE HVAC SYSTEMS AT VARIOUS, UH, UH, FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, INCLUDING CITY HALL, UM, CITY YARD, LOOKING AT, UH, GRAND AVENUE PARK COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, UH, GRAND AVENUE PARK.

UH, SO WE ARE, UH, DOING A, A FULL, FULL ASSESSMENT AND, AND REPLACING SYSTEMS WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED.

UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU GO DOWN A SEWER, YOU LOOK AT THE CITYWIDE UTILITY SCADA, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE IS, UM, EXPAND ON OUR EXISTING TELEMETRY SYSTEMS. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, SCADA AT SOME OF OUR WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES.

WE WANT TO EXPAND TO ALL OF OUR WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES.

THIS IS CRITICAL IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, MONITOR REMOTELY SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN, UH, WE MAY HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH OUR SEWER SYSTEMS, IF YOU HAVE SEWER BUILDING UP, UP TO A CERTAIN POINT, IT'LL NOTIFY OUR STAFF.

SO YOU CAN RESPOND A LOT SOONER.

UH, SAME WAY WITH OUR, UH, UH, WITH OUR WATER UTILITIES.

IF WE HAVE A, A LEAK, A SIGNIFICANT LEAK SOMEWHERE, OR IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE, ONE OUR, UH, OF OUR RESERVOIRS STAFF GETS NOTIFIED, THEY CAN RESPOND A LOT SOONER TO HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE ISSUE BEFORE IT GETS, UH, TOO SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO MENTION KUDOS TO THE STAFF THAT FOUND THE ENGAGEMENT RING.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT PRESS, UH, AS A CITY AND IN PARTICULAR AS THE DEPARTMENT FOR DOING THAT VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.

BUT, UH, THAT'S COOL.

AND, UH, THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS, CHRIS AND BROWN, AND TONY CHO WILL BE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, FOR, UH, GENERAL STAFF.

UH, EXCUSE ME, FOR, UH, UH, GENERAL COUNCIL MEETING.

YEAH, NEXT SLIDE, BEN, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

AS WE LOOK ON, UH, INTO STORM DRAINS, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, BEFORE, BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS.

IT'S, UH, THE EUCALYPTUS AVENUE STORM DRAIN PROJECT.

THIS IS WHERE WE, UH, PLAN TO REMOVE THE, UM, OPEN AIR, UH, UH, TRAPEZOIDAL CHANNEL, AND, UH, PUT A STORM DRAIN UNDER, UNDER THE ROAD, UH, COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, UM, THAT, UH, THAT'LL DESIGN OF THAT WILL START, UH, PRETTY SOON HERE.

UM, AS WE LOOK INTO OUR STREETS, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 10 PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ONGOING.

UM, WITHIN THOSE 10 PROJECTS, UH, THEY MAKE UP, UH, APPROXIMATELY 14 MILES OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITH AN INVESTMENT OF OVER 10 MILLION.

UM, AND SOME OF THOSE ROADS INCLUDE SOCAL CANYON PARKWAY, UM, AND THAT'LL BE FROM, UH, FROM THE 71 TO THE NORTHERN CITY BOUNDARY.

UM, WHERE IT MEETS WITH, UH, UH, WITH THE CITY OF CHINO.

UH, WE GOT THE CARBON CANYON ROAD WIDENING PROJECT.

UM, WHAT THAT IS, IS IT'S, IT'S EXPANDING ON THE TRANSITIONAL LANE, UH, AS YOU'RE GOING FROM CHINO'S PARKWAY CURRENTLY.

UM, IT, THE, THE QUEUE IS NOT LONG ENOUGH, SO IT CREATES A BACKUP OF TRAFFIC ON, UH, CHINO'S PARKWAY.

UM, SO THIS IS THE CALTRANS PROJECT WHERE WE'RE INVESTING $510,000 AND IT'LL EXPAND THAT, EXPAND THAT TRANSITION LANE APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER MILE.

DANIEL, BACK REAL QUICK ON THE EUCALYPTUS AVENUE STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA ON THE, THE, THE OPEN DRAIN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY PUT THAT UNDERGROUND.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THIS.

AT LEAST I BROUGHT UP THE POINT.

IS THERE ANY PLAN TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET WITH BOYS REPUBLIC AND TRIM BACK THAT, THAT WIND BARRIER THAT THEY HAVE? BECAUSE OTHERWISE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE REALLY, IF WE PUT IN CURB AND GUTTER WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS.

UH, THERE'S CLEARLY NOT GONNA BE ROOM FOR A SIDEWALK.

I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIDEWALK.

I KNOW IT WAS TALKED ABOUT, BUT TO TRY AND TAKE IT FROM THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LIGHTLE SCHOOL.

UM, I JUST DON'T PHYSICALLY THINK WE HAVE THE, THE SPACE TO DO IT.

ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENT ABOUT THAT? YEAH.

THE PLAN AT THIS POINT IS NOT TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EUCALYPTUS.

OKAY.

EVEN CURB AND GUTTER.

UH,

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WE WILL INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER.

YES.

AND THERE WILL BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND WE WILL WORK WITH, UH, WITH BOISE REPUBLIC TO SEE WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE PINE TREES? YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME, AT A MINIMUM, DO SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIMMING.

CORRECT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, SO AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, 10 PROJECTS.

UM, UH, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THIS SHEET HERE ARE, UH, THE SHARE VISTA DRIVE AND DEL NORTE AVENUE.

AGAIN, UH, SIGNIFICANT IN INVESTMENT INTO THE LOS TORONTOS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OF, UH, JUST OVER $600,000.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE EUCALYPTUS AVENUE PAVE AND REHAB AND RECYCLED WATER LINES.

WHAT WE WANNA DO HERE IS, UM, FROM, UH, EUCALYPTUS, FROM PEYTON TO CHINO HILLS PARKWAY.

UM, WE HAVE A NEED WHERE WE NEED TO, UH, REPAIR THE ROAD.

UM, LIKELY IT'LL BE A TWO INCH, UH, UH, COLD MILL AND OVERLAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO IN, IN TERMS OF JUST FREEING UP SOME, UH, PORTABLE WATER.

UH, WE DO HAVE A RECYCLED WATER LINE THAT RUNS ALONG EUCALYPTUS.

WE PLAN ON TYING INTO THAT LINE AND RUNNING THAT, UH, WEST TOWARDS VETERANS PARK.

SO WE CAN PUT VETERANS PARK ON, UH, ON RECYCLED WATER.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THAT'LL BE, UH, A PROJECT THAT WE, UH, PLAN ON BRINGING FORWARD PRETTY SOON HERE.

UM, AS WE MOVE ON TO, UH, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE UNDER WATER, RECYCLED WATER, UM, WE HAVE A SADDLE REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

THIS IS, UH, UH, THE THIRD PHASE, UH, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING, UM, NEARLY 400, UH, WATER SERVICE SADDLES AND, UH, AND, AND SERVICE LINES TO, TO CERTAIN AREAS.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CURLS OF SOIL THAT'S BEEN DAMAGING OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO, UM, UH, THIS IS A, A MUCH NEEDED PROJECT THAT WE PLAN ON WRAPPING UP SOON HERE.

DO YOU RECALL WHAT AREAS THOSE, UH, I KNOW IT WAS MOSTLY IN THE OAKS AREA WHERE IT'S VILLAGE JUG, UH, SUNA, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE A NOTE HERE.

UH, AND, UH, AND ROLLING RIDGE.

OKAY.

UM, 1 23 TCP.

I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS, UH, QUITE A BIT, UH, BUT FOR STAFF, UH, WE ARE INVESTING JUST ABOUT 18 MILLION ON, UH, BUILDING A NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UH, WE, WE HAVE ALL BUT ONE OF OUR, UH, WELLS OFFLINE BECAUSE OF A CONTAMINANT, UH, CALLED 1 23 TCP.

UM, UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND PLAN TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT BY THE END OF, UH, NEXT YEAR.

AS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, UH, MENTIONED, THAT'LL ELIMINATE THE NEED TO HAVE TO PURCHASE WA UH, AS MUCH WATER FROM SOME OF OUR OTHER WATER AGENCIES, INCLUDING METROPOLITAN.

UM, AND WE CAN INVEST THAT MONEY BACK INTO OUR, UH, OUR WATER SYSTEM.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT GENERATOR AND MANUAL TRANSFER, SWITCH INSTALLATION, UH, THIS IS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UH, BE PREPARED FOR, UH, FOR EMERGENCIES.

THE PLAN HERE IS FROM INSTALL STATIONARY, UH, GENERATORS AT SOME OF OUR KEY, UH, WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES, AS WELL AS HAVE, UH, CONNECTION POINTS FOR, UH, FOR PORTABLE GENERAT GENERATORS.

UH, WHEN WE DO HAVE, UH, THE NEED OF, UH, OF AN, UH, AN EMERGENCY OR JUST A REGULAR, UH, POWER OUTAGE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW AS WE LOOK AT THE, THE UPCOMING 2324, UH, CIP P PROGRAM, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 26 PROJECTS WITH THE VALUE OF, UH, NEARLY 16.5 MILLION.

UM, THE, THE BULK OF THAT, UH, WOULD BE, UH, FROM THE STREETS, UH, DIVISION, ABOUT 43%.

UM, AND, UH, ANOTHER BIG PORTION, UH, BEING 25% OUT OF THE WATER, RECYCLED WATER, UH, PROGRAM.

UM, AND THIS IS A, A MAKEUP, UH, BY FUNDING SOURCE.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE BIGGEST JUNK HERE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF IT WILL BE FROM OUR WATER UTILITY.

UH, SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR, UH, OUR 1 23 TCP PROJECT.

UM, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, SOME, SOME FUNDS OUT OF OUR CFD, UH, DEVELOPMENT IMPACT, UH, FEES.

UM, AND THEN, UH, SPRINKLE OF, UH, RRA, WHICH IS OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND REHAB ACCOUNT, UH, WHICH IS PRIMARILY USED FOR, FOR STREETS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, MEASURE, I ALSO USE FOR, FOR STREETS.

OKAY.

UH, LOOKING AT, UH, OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, UH, WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS, UH, PROPOSED.

UH, OUR, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE THE FULL LIST OF 26 PROJECTS HERE, BUT WE, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS 13 OF THE, THE HIGHLIGHT PROJECTS, UM, UNDER PARKS AND, UH, AND OPEN SPACE.

WE HAVE, UH, A NEW PLAYGROUND AT ALARA PARK.

UH, THIS WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE, THE FALL ATTENUATION MATERIAL.

UM, AND THEN, UH, AT VETERANS PARK, UH, WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING THERE IS, UH, REPLACING, UH, 19 OF THE, THE LIGHTS WITHIN THE PARK.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CONDUIT AND WIRING FOR THAT PARK.

UH, OFTENTIMES WHEN WE HAVE ONE OUTAGE, IT, IT LEADS TO MULTIPLE, UH, LIGHTS BEING OUT.

SO THIS WILL ALL BE NEW, SO WE DON'T HAVE, UH, THOSE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.

DANIEL, ARE WE, UM, DO YOU KNOW THE TIMELINE FOR BUTTERFIELD RANCH ROAD? IN FAIRFIELD RANCH REHABILITATION, ROUGHLY LIKE THE TIME OF YEAR ARE, ARE WE TRYING TO WORK WHEN SCHOOLS OUT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, OR NO? W WE ALL TRY TO WORK AROUND SCHOOL

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SCHEDULES.

UM, UH, THIS WILL BE DESIGNED, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN WHAT WE'LL TRY TO DO IS PROBABLY NOT PROGRAM CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE END OF, UH, THE FOLLOWING SCHOOL YEAR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, TOUCHING ON PUBLIC FACILITIES, UH, COMMITTEE CENTER, UH, REPAIR AND RE UH, REPLACEMENT.

UH, THERE WE HAVE, UM, A GOOD AMOUNT OF, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING THE CARPET IN THE BANQUET ROOM.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL LOCKABLE STORAGE CABINETS, UH, NEXT TO THE SMALL KITCHEN.

THIS WILL BE, UH, A BIG BENEFIT TO OUR, UH, OUR, OUR RENTAL GROUPS.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO HAD CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF JUST, UH, UH, OUR STAFF MEMBERS AND SOME OF THE CUBICLES WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT RECONFIGURING SOME OF THE, THE OPEN SPACE FOR, FOR STAFF AND MAKE IT MORE, UH, ACCOMMODATING FOR THEM.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT MCCOY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A NEW, NEW ROOF FOR THE MCCOY BARN.

UH, THE, UH, THE ROOF, UM, THE, THE FACIAL BOARDS ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING ALL THE, THE FACIAL BOARDS, THE, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE ROOF DECKING.

UH, SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN ROTTED OUT, SO WE'LL BE REPLACING THAT AS WELL.

UH, LOOKING TO GIVE IT A FULL, UH, EXTERIOR PAINTING, UM, UH, ON THE EXTERIOR END, AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR, LOOKING TO DO A REHAB OF THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOM.

UH, WE'LL REFINISH THE BANQUET HALL FLOOR, UH, AND ALSO REHAB THE, THE PARKING LOT.

MM-HMM.

AS, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, THE, THE PARKING LOTS IN NEED OF SOME, UH, OF SOME LIPSTICKS, OR, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOME LIPSTICK ONTO THAT, UH, PARKING LOT.

DANIEL, WITH RESPECT TO THE ROOFING REPLACEMENT AT MCCOY ON THE BARN, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BID PROCESS IS GONNA BE, BUT CAN WE BE SURE THAT WE INCLUDE SHELL ROOFING, UH, AS ONE OF THE VENDORS FOR THAT POSSIBLE THING? THEY'VE DONE SOME GREAT WORK.

THEY DID THE WORK ON PAUSE FOR SUCCESS.

THEY WERE, UH, HONORED AT THE CITY OF CHINO RECENTLY FOR THEIR, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS AND EVERYTHING.

SO THEY DO GOOD WORK AND THEY DO IT REASONABLY.

AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE DEFINITELY INCLUDED.

OKAY.

HAVE THEY SIGNED UP AS A VENDOR? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE OR NOT, BUT WE, WE CAN REACH OUT AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS PROCESS, BUT WE CAN REACH OUT TO 'EM TO BE SURE THEY'RE INCLUDED.

WOULD YOU PLEASE? SURE.

YEAH.

AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, CITY YARD IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE LOOKING TO SPEND ABOUT $800,000 THERE.

UM, UH, ONE OF THE, THE KEY ITEMS THERE IS ADDITIONAL STAFF RESTROOMS. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A, UH, A DEPARTMENT WITH ABOUT 80 EMPLOYEES, SEVERAL OF THEM BEING MEN, AND WE ONLY HAVE TWO TOILETS IN, IN THE BUILDING, IT MAKES IT VERY CHALLENGING IN TERMS OF, UH, USING THE FACILITIES.

SO, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL RESTAURANTS WILL, WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, WE, WE DO HAVE AN OLDER FACILITY OUT AT THE YARD, SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SOME MUCH NEEDED KITCHEN AND RESTROOM RENOVATIONS, UM, AS WELL AS JUST, UH, DOING SOME PAINTING, INTERIOR AND, UH, AND THE EXTERIOR.

OKAY.

DOES THIS INCLUDE A RESERVATION SYSTEM SO THEY CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT? , SORRY.

WE, WE'LL GET CREATIVE AND SEE IN TERMS OF HOW WE, UH, ALLOCATE TIME FOR, UH, FOR THOSE FACILITIES.

ALL RIGHT.

LOOKING AT, UH, AT, AT, AT OUR STREETS PROJECTS, WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING FIVE PAYMENT REHAB PROJECTS.

UM, THAT'LL IMPROVE ABOUT EIGHT MIL, UH, EXCUSE ME, EIGHT MILES OF STREETS.

UM, AND, UH, A CONSTRUCTION COST OF OVER 5 MILLION.

UH, BUTTERFIELD RANCH ROAD IS, UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THOSE, UH, ROADS, AND THE LIMITS FROM THAT, UH, FOR THAT PROJECT WILL BE SOCO CANYON PARKWAY TO PINE AVENUE.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT FAIRFIELD RANCH ROAD, UH, THE LIMITS ARE, ARE MONTE VISTA TO SOCO CANYON PARKWAY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, WE HAVE PEYTON DRIVE ON THAT LIST, AND THAT'S FROM CHINO AVENUE TO STATE ROUTE 71.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE POMONA REK DRIVE, AND THAT'S FROM SOCAL CANYON AT PICASSO DRIVE, UH, ADJACENT TO CHINO HILLS HIGH SCHOOL.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ANNUAL STREET IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, WHICH WILL COVER, UH, ABOUT FIVE MILES WORTH OF RESIDENTIAL ROADS.

EXCUSE ME.

AND THE LASTLY, WE HAVE, UH, WATER, RECYCLED WATER.

UH, WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS IDENTIFIED HERE, UH, ONE BEING THE ENGLISH ROAD, RECYCLED WATER LINES.

UH, AGAIN, TRYING TO, UH, PROVIDE AS MUCH RELIEF FOR OUR PORTABLE WATER AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO RUN A RECYCLED WATER LINE ALONG E ENGLISH ROAD FROM PEYTON AVENUE, ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, ENGLISH SPRINGS PARK.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT'LL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND, UH, EQUESTRIAN PROPERTIES ALONG ENGLISH ROAD TO TAP IN AND, UH, USE THAT, UH, THAT WATER RESOURCES OR THAT WATER RESOURCES OF RECYCLED WATER FOR EITHER JUST IRRIGATION AND, OR EVEN FOR THEIR QUESTION USE.

ARE WE FAR ENOUGH ALONG TO START DOING AN OUTREACH TO, UH, KURT HAGMAN? BECAUSE HE'D TALKED ABOUT MAYBE HELPING FUND, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A DELAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE NUMBERS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE.

ARE WE FAR ENOUGH ALONG THAT WE CAN TAP INTO MAYBE SOME OF THE DISCRETIONARY MONIES OR THE ARPA MONIES THAT THAT OFFICE HAS? I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO TAKE FREE MONEY, SO I KNOW IF, IF IT'S AVAILABLE, AND WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER TO REACH OUT TO ALL NEEDS IS A NUMBER.

SO ARE WE FAR ENOUGH ALONG TO PROVIDE A NUMBER FOR RECYCLED WATER? BECAUSE WA RECYCLED WATER PROJECTS CAN QUALIFY UNDER ARPA? YEP.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2.5 MILLION, THAT'S WHY YEAH.

2.5.

WE, WE WILL HAVE

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A PROPOSAL FOR, UH, MR. HAGMAN BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S STEP ON IT.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, POMONA, UH, EMERGENCY INTERCONNECTION PROJECT.

UM, THIS WILL BE A, A BENEFIT TO BOTH, UH, OUR CITY AND THE CITY OF POMONA.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS INSTALL ABOUT 300 FEET OF, UH, WATER MAIN LINE TO WHAT, TO THE POINT WHERE IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY WHERE WE HAVE A NEED FOR, FOR WATER, FOR SOME REASON, OUR WATER SOURCES ARE DEPLETED OR VICE VERSA.

IF POMONA NEEDS WATER, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT, UH, INTERAGENCY AGREEMENT WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE THEM WITH WATER OR THEY CAN PROVIDE US WITH WATER.

SO AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO HAVE THAT, THAT REDUNDANCY OF, OF WATER RESOURCES.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION PERTAINING TO, SO CANYON, WHERE WE ACTUALLY BORDER POMONA, DO ALL THE WATER, DO ALL THE UTILITIES COME FROM CHINO HILLS ALONG ROCK SPRINGS AND SCENIC RIDGE? AND CAUSE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET IS ACTUALLY THE CITY POMONA.

CORRECT.

BUT ALL THE UTILITIES COME FROM CHINO HILLS.

CORRECT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ALL THE UTILITIES, I DO KNOW WE PROVIDE SOME, UH, UTILITIES IN THAT AREA.

UH, SEWER IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDE.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PROVIDE WATER TO ALL THE CITIES IN THAT AREA, BUT I CAN, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK.

WHAT ABOUT THE ROADWAYS? AS FAR AS REPAVING, LIKE SAY, UH, THE ROADS, I GUESS IN THE MIDDLE IS THE, THE BORDER.

DO WE DO BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD ON SCENIC RIDGE? I BELIEVE ON CENIC RIDGE, WE, WE DO THE ENTIRE ROAD, BUT THERE IS ONE ROAD, AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE ROAD.

IT'S A, IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC THAT IS FULLY, UH, OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY POMONA.

OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, UH, UH, KRISTA WOULD LOVE TO RESPOND TO, UH, THE UTILITY BILLING, UH, ISSUE THERE.

UM, THERE ARE A PORTION OF THOSE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE PROVIDED WATER SERVICE BY ANOTHER AGENCY.

THEY'RE NOT ALL ON CHINO HILLS WATER, SO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ARE YOU HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? NO.

TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? GOOD.

GOOD.

GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DANIEL MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP.

UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK A QUESTION TO.

, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAYBE ASK, LET'S SEE, WHO SHOULD I PICK ON MIKE HOFINGER ABOUT THE LAKERS PERFORMANCE? UH, LET'S SEE.

ANYONE ELSE WE CAN CALL OUT TOO SOON? UH, SO MIKE, HOW ABOUT THAT LAKERS PERFORMANCE? YOU MEAN LACK OF PERFORMANCE? MIKE KNOWS THAT I, I PICK ON HIM BECAUSE HE IS A DIE HARD FAN.

UH, AND HE WAITS REALLY LATE IN THE SEASON BEFORE HE GETS THE FAIR WEATHER FAN THAT I AM, UH, INVOLVED.

UH, HE'S NOT LIKE, UH, I KNOW RAY AND, UH, UH, DANIEL BOTH ARE SC TWO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AND THROUGH.

UH, BUT IT, IT, IT IS WORTH POINTING OUT THAT HE, UH, HE'S BEEN SUFFERING.

SO WE MIGHT AS WELL MAKE FUN OF HIM SO WE CAN GET HIM THERAPY BEFORE THAT.

.

WELL, THEY DEFINITELY DIE HARD.

FOUR ZERO IS PRETTY DYING HARD, ISN'T IT? ANYBODY ELSE YOU WANNA PICK ON? UH, LET'S SEE, WHO ELSE? UH, SHAWN O'CONNOR, UH, LOOKS LIKE HE'S THERE.

SOMETHING FROM, UH, CYNTHIA, UH, DO YOU HAVE A, AN ISSUE AT YOUR PARK THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR HIM TO ADDRESS AGAIN? THEY LOVE ME.

HI, MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU.

NO, SHAWN'S GREAT.

AND LUTHER'S GREAT.

AND DANIEL'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, I KNOW THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS OF ME MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL, YOU'VE SHARED, UH, YOUR THANKS WITH ME PERSONALLY AND AGAIN TODAY TO THE STAFF.

I DO JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE TIME, EVEN THOUGH, UH, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK IS REFLECTED IN THIS DOCUMENT.

THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE OF US.

UH, WE SEE EXAMPLES OF COUNCILS IN CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE, UH, SUCH A STRONG SUPPORT FOR STAFF.

IT MAKES ALL OF OUR JOBS SO MUCH EASIER.

AND WE, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL CEASE MY PITCH OF THE BUDGET.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? OH, THAT WAS A SUGGESTION, HUH? .

ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

GO SEE PUBLIC WORKS.

SO, UH, YOUR DINNER WILL BE PROVIDED AT FIVE 30.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WE'D CUT THIS FAST, BUT WE'LL HAVE, UH, FOOD FOR YOU SHORTLY.

ALL RIGHT.

FIVE MORE MINUTES OF QUESTIONS THEN, JEFF.

LAST CHANCE AS COMMUNITY OR GO SEE THE PUBLIC WORKS OPEN.

WITH THAT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.

[ 7:00 P.M. - CONVENE MEETING / ROLL CALL]

[02:05:12]

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR ACCOUNTS, CHIN CHINO HILLS COUNTS MEETING FOR MAY 24TH, 2023.

UH, CHERYL, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG]

SO IF I CAN GET EVERYBODY TO STAND, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WHAT'S ALL LEAD, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY INVOCATION, BY PASTOR KEN ELVIN OF THE CHINO VALLEY COMMUNITY CHURCH, CV C C, PLEASE JOIN ME.

I PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TH OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH TO STAND ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY.

OKAY,

[ INVOCATION: Pastor Ken Elben, Chino Valley Community Church]

LORD, WE COME HERE TONIGHT THANKFUL THAT WE CAN LIVE IN THIS GREAT CITY.

THANK YOU FOR CHINO HILLS, THE COMMUNITY, THE GOVERNMENT, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT TONIGHT WILL BE HONORING TO YOU.

LORD, THERE'S MANY THINGS ON THE AGENDA, MANY THINGS TO GIVE THANKS FOR, AND MANY THINGS TO PRAY ABOUT.

SO I PRAY THAT TONIGHT WE WILL LISTEN AND SERVE THE WAY YOU WOULD JESUS IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT, KEN.

[12. RECOGNITION - Outgoing Parks and Recreation Commission Student Nicole Torres]

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION, RECOGNIZING THE OUTGOING PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION, STUDENT MEMBER NICOLE TORRES.

NICOLE, WILL YOU PLEASE? HELLO, NICOLE, JOIN THE MAYOR.

WELCOME.

I'M READY.

RIGHT OVER HERE.

THANK YOU, NICOLE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

NICOLE WAS APPOINTED TO SERVE AS STUDENT MEMBER ON PARKS AND REC COMMISSION BY RAY MARQUEZ IN APRIL OF 2022.

DURING HER TERM, NICOLE PROVIDED A WEALTH OF VALUABLE INPUT AND SUGGESTIONS REGARDING FACILITY ENHANCEMENTS, RECREATION PROGRAMS, AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

SOME OF THESE PROJECTS INCLUDED THE PROPOSED SPLASH PAD, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TORY PINES PARK RENOVATIONS UPGRADES TO GRAND AVENUE PARK.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHE IS ALSO CREDITED FOR HELPING INITIATE THE CREATION OF THE TEEN ADVISORY BOARD, A PROGRAM THAT SHE'S SUPPORTED AND PROMOTED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

THE COMMISSION WAS APPRECIATIVE OF NICOLE'S ENTHUSIASM AND HER ABILITY TO ALWAYS ASK THOUGHTFUL AND INSIGHTFUL QUESTIONS ON SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF TOPICS.

GREAT JOB.

ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS FOR THE PAST YEAR.

AND WE WISH YOU GREAT SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.

WE HAVE CERTIFICATES FOR YOU FROM THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, AND ALSO FROM SENATOR, CTO AND NEWMAN AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER PHILLIP CHEN, AND COUNTY SUPERVISOR KURT HAGMAN.

THAT'S WHY I WILL HAVE ALL OF THESE FOR YOU.

BUT BEFORE WE TAKE OUR PHOTO, GIVE, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

HI.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK RAY MARK HEADS FOR NOMINATING ME LAST YEAR.

IT'S BEEN SUCH AN EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH YOU ALL.

UM, I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS, AND I'M EXCITED TO WORK HERE DURING THE SUMMER.

SO THANK YOU, .

VERY GOOD.

AGAIN, THANK YOU.

MR. CAN I SAY A FEW WORDS? OF COURSE.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY MOM AND DAD, GREAT JOB RAISING THIS YOUNG LADY.

UM, YOU, UM, ADDED A LOT TO THE COMMISSION.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I KNOW WE INITIALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT WAY BACK THEN.

WE ACTUALLY DID IT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

THERE.

JUST WANNA GIVE YOU, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE, AND I JUST WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST.

SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE DOING STAND OVER HERE.

DO A PHOTO CAN GET CLOSER.

OKAY.

[13. PROCLAMATION - Proclaiming the week of May 21-27, 2023, as National Public Works Week]

NEXT, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF MAY 21ST THROUGH 27TH.

2023 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK TO BE ACCEPTED BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT STAFF.

WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN THE MAYOR AT THE PODIUM? STAFF? COME ON UP.

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ARE YOU TIRED OF BEING ON TV YET? ? IT'S A LITTLE BIT .

.

YOU CAN SEE IF YOU NEED US.

DO THAT.

YES.

DEAN.

CHAT ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, EVERY DAY, THE EMPLOYEES OF CHINO HILLS PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CONTRIBUTE TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT, QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS.

ALTHOUGH THEY OFTEN OPERATE BEHIND THE SCENES, EXCEPT THE PAST WEEK OR SO, OTHER THAN THAT, THEY, AND THEY ARE INDISPENSABLE BEHIND THE SCENES.

WE HOPE ALL OF YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO STOP BY THE, THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE, HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO STOP BY THE PUBLIC WORKS OPEN HOUSE THAT WE HAD OUTSIDE BEFORE JOINING US THIS EVENING TO SEE ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO FOR OUR CITY IN RECOGNITION OF THEIR MANY SERVICES.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PROCLAIM MAY 21 THROUGH 27, 20 23 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK THIS YEAR, THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS TEAM PUT TOGETHER A NICE VIDEO, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT THE WIDE VARIETY OF AMAZING WORK THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES FOR THE CITY.

SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT A LITTLE VIDEO.

RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, IS PROUD TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, MAY 21ST THROUGH THE 27TH.

THIS YEAR'S THEME IS CONNECTING THE WORLD THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENT AND MAINTENANCE, OR FIRST RESPONDER SERVICES.

PUBLIC FIRST PROFESSIONALS ENHANCE THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE.

IN CHINO HILLS.

THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS 76 FULL-TIME AND 12 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES WHO ARE DEDICATED TO PLANNING, BUILDING, MANAGING, AND OPERATING TO PRESERVE YOUR EVERYDAY QUALITY OF LIFE.

MAINTAINING THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU DEPEND ON IS A BIG JOB.

AND THIS WEEK WE CELEBRATE THOSE WHO ARE WORKING HARD TO DO JUST THAT.

TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR CITY AT WORK, WHETHER IT'S CONSERVING OR PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY DRINKING WATER, KEEPING THE STREETS WELL MAINTAINED AND SAFE TO NAVIGATE OR MAINTAINING THE PARKS IN OPEN SPACE AND REDUCING THE FIRE FUEL.

EACH EMPLOYEE DOES IT WITH A GREAT AMOUNT OF PRIDE.

HI, MY NAME IS MATTHEW GARINO.

I'M THE LEAD OPERATOR FOR THE CITY OF SHEENA HILLS WATER DEPARTMENT.

I AM A CREW OF SIX.

UH, WE OPERATE 24 7, BUT WE ARE A SMALL CREW, BUT WE HANDLE BIG JOBS.

WE HANDLE ALL MAIN WATER BREAKS, HYDRANTS, REPAIRS, VALVE REPAIRS.

WE OPERATE AS FAST AS WE CAN, BUT AS SAFE AS WE CAN TO PROVIDE GREAT SERVICE TO YOU GUYS AND MAKE SURE YOUR WATER'S SAFE.

ON AND SAFE.

MY NAME IS MIC MIGUEL ROOF, SENIOR MAINTENANCE IN THE STREETS DEPARTMENT.

I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING AS FAR AS ASPHALT CONCRETE, JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE STREETS AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE.

AS A SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER IN WATER PRODUCTION, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE OF ALL WATER PRODUCTION FACILITIES.

TYPICAL FACILITIES INCLUDE THE CITY'S WELLS RESERVOIRS, BOOSTER PUMP STATIONS, AND HYDROMATIC PUMP STATIONS.

I TAKE GREAT CARE AND PRIDE IN PROVIDING SAFE DRINKING WATER TO THE RESIDENTS OF CHINO HEALTH.

WITHIN THE ENGINEERING DIVISION, UH, WE GET TO DO A LOT OF VARIETY OF THINGS.

WE HANDLE, UH, TRAFFIC.

UH, WE ALSO GET TO HANDLE THE UTILITIES IN TOWN, DOING PROJECTS.

WE GET TO HANDLE THE STREETS SIGNAGE AND STRIPING.

WE HANDLE MENT PERMIT, AND WE BASICALLY GET THE REAL JOY AND, UH, WONDER OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE QUALITY ALIVE WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN.

MY NAME IS ISH TAPIA.

I'M A SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKER FOR WASTEWATER FOR THE CITY OF CHIN HILLS.

THE WASTEWATER TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONVEYING ALL THE WASTE CITIES WASTEWATER TO OUR TREATMENT CLINIC WITHOUT CAUSING ANY ENVIRONMENTAL OR HEALTH IMPACTS TO OUR RESIDENTS.

AS A CONTRACT CITY IN THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, WE, UH, GO OUT TO BID CONTRACTORS, MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPE AND TREES WITHIN THE PARKS.

UH, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE THREE INSPECTORS THAT OVERSEE TO MAKE SURE DON'T GET THE QUALITY, UH, THAT PEOPLE EXPECT FROM CHINO HILLS, THE 44 PARKS, 900 PLUS ACRES OF LANDSCAPE, AND OVER 3000 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE STAFF IN PNL HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MAJORITY OF 'EM

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OVER 20 YEARS.

AND SO THEY'VE BEEN TAKING A LOT OF PRIDE IN THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S HEAR IT FOR OUR PUBLIC WORK TEAM.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU'VE, UH, IF YOU WATCHED THE NEWS, YOU'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ON THE NEWS QUITE A BIT.

SO THEY'VE AGREED TO DO AN AUTOGRAPH SESSION RIGHT AFTER, AFTER OUR, UH, COUNCIL MEETING.

BUT WITH THAT, ONE OR TWO OR THREE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

WOW, YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED .

YOU GUYS ARE, YOUR VOCAL CORDS ARE GONE NOW.

COME ON UP.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND START OFF BY INTRODUCING OURSELVES.

I'M VALERIE.

THEN WE HAVE DAN, MIC TRUJILLO, ALFONZO GUTIERREZ, CHRISTOPHER SANO, ANTONIO OCHOA.

UM, ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, COUNSEL AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THE CONTINUOUS SUPPORT.

SO THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT.

ANYBODY ELSE? WE GOOD? ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL DO A, A PHOTO OP.

NICOLE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STAND IN THE CENTER.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK JOB GUYS.

HEY, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE THEY GO BACK, IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT A RING OR SOMETHING? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT OR, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS TALKED .

WHY DON'T, TONY, DON'T TWO GUYS COME BACK UP AND SPEAK .

WE ASKED ABOUT THIS TOO.

YEAH, THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SAY A WORD ABOUT IT.

THERE MAY BE SOMEONE IN THE CITY THAT HASN'T HEARD THIS STORY, BUT I DOUBT IT.

I THINK EVERYBODY HAS SO FAR.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

WHEN WAS IT TONY? WHEN WE FOUND IT? UH, MAY 3RD.

SO MAY 3RD.

WE WERE DOING GENERAL MAINTENANCE AROUND, UH, I WANNA SAY IT WAS BURGUNDY COURT AND THE SCOPE HAD LOST, UH, THEIR ENGAGEMENT RING.

IT'S GONE FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

THE DAY THEY LOST IT, WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO FIND IT FROM TELEVISING THE LINE TO FLUSHING THEIR HOME LATERAL AND NOTHING, NOTHING CAME OUT OF IT.

AND WE'RE LIKE, WOW, WHERE IS IT? COULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWEPT TOWARDS 20 INCH MAIN LINE THAT GOES OUT TO EUCALYPTUS, DOWN TO CHP.

SO WE KIND OF LEFT IT OUT THERE, BUT IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS.

SO ME AND TONY GO BACK JUST TO DO SOME GENERAL MAINTENANCE, AND WE SHOT THE LINE AND IT WAS LIKE, HEY, TONY, TURN THE WATER DOWN.

GET THE BASKET, WE'LL BASKET THE LINE.

AND WOULD YOU KNOW IT, IT WAS RIGHT THERE, .

YEAH, THIS WAS ONE IN A MILLION.

WE WERE SO GLAD THAT WE FOUND IT THOUGH, AND THEY WERE SO HAPPY.

IT MAKES OUR JOB WORTH IT.

, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TOLD THAT STORY OVER THE PAST WEEK? UH, I THINK THIS WAS OUR 10TH TIME SO FAR.

DID ANY CHANNEL MISS YOU OR DID YOU GET 'EM ALL? NO, I THINK WE GOT 'EM ALL.

WE'RE NOT HBO YET.

WE'LL GET THERE.

NOT HBO SPECIAL.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

TAKE CARE, TONY.

AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK, ALL RIGHT.

[ ANNOUNCEMENT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION]

DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT OF CLOSED SESSION? MARK MAYOR COUNCIL, THERE ARE ACTION TAKEN.

CLOSE SESSION THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I THINK MARK SAID NO, THERE'S NOTHING.

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[14. PUBLIC COMMENTS: At this time members of the public may address the City Council regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Council, whether or not the item appears on the agenda, except testimony on Public Hearing items must be provided during those hearings. Please complete and submit to the City Clerk a "Request to Speak" card. Comments will be limited to three minutes per speaker.]

MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AT THIS TIME, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEMS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE COUNCIL, WHETHER OR NOT THE ITEM APPEARS ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT TESTIMONY ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, WHICH MUST BE PROVIDED DURING THOSE HEARINGS.

PLEASE COMPLETE AND SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARD TO THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK.

TO MY LEFT, COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS JEFF BACCA.

NOW HE TALKS, HE WAS HERE EARLIER FOR A DIFFERENT MEETING.

AN EXCITING MEETING.

IT WAS EXCITING.

YES.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF AND FELLOW RESIDENTS.

I'M JEFF AKA I'M A BOARD MEMBER WITH THE POMONA VALLEY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

AND JUST WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS ON THE TWO HOMES FOR VETERANS ON FAIRWAY BOULEVARD BEHIND LOS TORONTOS GOLF COURSE.

AND WE'RE HAVING A GROUNDBREAKING ON FRIDAY, JUNE 16TH AT 11:00 AM AND JUST WANNA INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME THERE, UH, SEE THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE ON THE PROPERTIES, UH, SEE WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS, AND ALSO INTRODUCE, UM,

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VETERANS FAMILIES THAT WILL BE THERE.

SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO EVERYBODY.

BE THERE JUNE 16TH, 11TH AM WE'LL BE ON THE, WHAT WE CALL THE UPPER LOT.

UM, HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, JEFF.

THANK YOU.

AND CON CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RECOGNITION THROUGH THE CHAMBER.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

CAL CHAMBER.

YEAH.

GOOD ARTICLE ON THAT ONE.

YEAH.

NEXT WE HAVE MARCO TULLE.

MARCO, YOU PROMISED YOU WOULD BE HERE.

HERE YOU ARE, .

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS MARCO TULLE.

UM, I'M PRESIDENT OF THE INLAND EMPIRE UTILITIES AGENCY.

UM, I'M NOT A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS AREA, BUT I AM HERE AS A CONCERNED RESIDENT, AS AND AS PRESIDENT OF THAT AGENCY.

UM, SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES FACING ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN THIS BASIN.

AND THAT IS, UH, THE REGIONAL SEWER CONTRACT.

SO THE REGIONAL SEWER CONTRACT WAS IN PLACE FOR OVER FIF FOR 50 YEARS, AND IT SECURED SOME OF THE LOWEST RATES OF, IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT THAT.

THE REGIONAL SEWER CONTRACT WAS IN NEGOTIATIONS FOR SEVEN YEARS.

UM, UH, NEGOTIATIONS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SLATED TO ONLY LAST FOR TWO YEARS.

UM, AND AT THE END, UH, NO AGREEMENT WAS REACHED.

SO THE CONTRACT EXPIRED IN DECEMBER OF 2022.

AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER AN ORDINANCE, WHICH SIMPLY MEANS THAT I U A SETS THE TERMS THAT, UM, THE CITIES AND THE AGENCIES, UM, DON'T HAVE ANY SAY IN, IN WHAT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE IS GONNA BE.

UM, IU A'S PERSPECTIVE IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH.

SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SERVICE, BUT I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR REGIONAL COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP.

I THINK IT'S WHAT'S MADE THIS REGION GREAT.

I THINK IT'S WHAT, WHAT'S KEPT, UM, WHAT'S TO THE BENEFIT OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHAT'S KEPT RATES LOW.

AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN AN ARID REGION, THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE, ESPECIALLY HERE FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHERE SEEMS THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS OUT OF CONTROL.

UM, SO IF YOU FACTOR IN THAT'S BEEN OVER 70 MODERATED MEETINGS THAT SPANS 70 YEARS AT, AT MINIMUM OF AT LEAST FIVE, UH, STAFF MEMBERS FROM EACH OF THE CITIES AND, UM, AND AGENCIES.

SO 35 ME, UH, 35 PEOPLE FOR 70 MEETINGS DO THE MATH.

IT'S OVER 6,000 HOURS.

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN ACCOUNTING, PREP TIME, UH, LAWYER TIME, ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? SO I, I CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATE THIS COST AT OVER 10 MILLION FOR THE AGENCIES COMBINED.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

IT'S A LOT OF PUBLIC MONEY THAT COULD MAKE PUT TO BETTER USE IN OTHER PLACES AND TIME SPENT DOING OTHER THINGS.

UM, CURRENTLY OUR BOARD HAS SET A DATE OF 5 31 FOR NEGOTIATIONS TO END.

AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN FIND SOME FORM OF COLLABORATION, UH, TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE SERVICE THAT I U A HAS PROVIDED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AGENCIES, BUT ALSO TO BENEFIT THE LOCAL RESIDENTS.

SO IN CLOSING, I THINK IN ORDER TO REESTABLISH TRUST TO CONTINUE TO WITH COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REACH SOME CONSENSUS AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SIGN A CONTRACT BY MAY 31ST THAT PROTECTS, UM, THE LOCAL RESOURCES HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

COMMENT TOO MUCH, BUT YEAH.

YEAH.

AND ALSO SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BETTER PREPARE AND FACE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE GOING, UH, AHEAD, ESPECIALLY IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE, UH, THE SANTA ANA CAN'T COME BACK.

SORRY GUYS.

WE HAVE THE SANTA ANA WATER RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY SENDING A LOT OF OUR WATER TO ORANGE COUNTY FOR FREE.

SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON HOW TO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT WATER AND PUT THAT TO BENEFICIAL USE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

SO MARCO, UH, YOU'RE TALKING TO SWITZERLAND HERE.

WE'VE BEEN MORE OF A FACILITATOR IN TRYING TO BE A BRIDGE BUILDER IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS THAN, UM, THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

SO AS OUR TEAM, ESPECIALLY RON HAS BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE CAN GET THIS PUSHED THROUGH.

SO HOPEFULLY IT DOES.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU, MA.

ALL RIGHT.

TAKE CARE.

APPRECIATE, THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE SUZETTE.

DANG.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR ROGERS.

WELCOME BACK.

SUZETTE THANK COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY STAFF, AUDIENCE MEMBERS ON BEHALF OF YOUR FOURTH DISTRICT COUNTY SUPERVISOR, KURT HACKMAN.

I'M HERE TO SHARE OUR UPCOMING EVENTS.

AND BRIAN, I'LL MAKE IT REAL FAST.

I'LL MAKE IT SHORT.

UM, FIRST, UM, SUPERVISOR HACKMAN DOCUMENT.

SH EVENT IS COMING UP ON SATURDAY, JUNE 3RD AT THE CH CHINO CITY HALL PARKING LOT.

LOCATED 13,220 CENTRAL AVENUE IN CHINO.

BETWEEN 9:00 AM TO 12:00 PM OR UNTIL THE SHREDDING TRUCK REACHES CAPACITY.

WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE TWO SHREDDING TRUCKS THIS TIME.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACC ACCOMMODATE MORE, ACCOMMODATE MORE PEOPLE.

UM, IT IS FREE TO OUR ALL SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY RESIDENTS, AND WE ARE ASKING TO PLEASE LIMIT TO THREE STANDARDIZED BOXES PER VEHICLE.

UM, AND PRE-REGISTRATION IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, UH, THROUGH EVENTBRITE.COM TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

AND THE FUN EVENT SUPERVISOR, KURT HAGMAN'S, UM, SUMMER OPEN HOUSE IS COMING UP, AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.

UM, WE ARE VERY EXCITED.

IT'S ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 7TH, BETWEEN 5:00 PM TO 7:00 PM

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RIGHT OUTSIDE ON THE, UM, CITY CENTER DRIVE.

UM, SUPERVISOR HACKMAN AND COUNTY DEPARTMENTS WILL BE THERE TO PROVIDE RESOURCES.

WE ALSO HAVE CHINO VALLEY FIRE PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS WHO WILL BE PROVIDING FOOD, AND THEY WILL BE FREE ICE CREAM.

I HEARD.

UM, SOME OF THE RESOURCES WE'LL HAVE, THERE'S GONNA BE SERVICES BUS FROM ASSESSOR RECORDER, CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, DEPARTMENT BOOK MOBILE FROM LIBRARY, AND A ZERO EMISSION BUS FROM OMNI TRAN.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN, UM, CHINO HILLS PD AND, UH, UH, I'M SORRY, CHINO, UH, AND CHINO VALLEY FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHO WILL ALSO BE THERE.

PRE-REGISTERED ATTENDEES WILL RECEIVE EXTRA RAFFLE TICKET FOR A CHANCE TO WIN FUND PRIZES.

AND LASTLY, UM, SUPERVISOR HACKMAN'S ANNUAL JOB FAIR AND RECORD CLEARING EVENT WILL BE ON THURSDAY, JUNE 15TH, BETWEEN 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AT THE ONTARIO INTENTIONAL INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.

THIS WILL BE AT THE OLD TERMINAL ONE, LOCATED 1940 MO MOORE WAY IN ONTARIO.

WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND LAW OFFICE IS A PUBLIC DEFENDER AND ONTARIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT TO BRING TOGETHER MANY EMPLOYERS AND RESOURCES.

KERA CODES FROM MAP AND REGISTRATION IS ON THE FLYER, AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE ON THE HALLWAY.

OR YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL OUR OFFICE AT (909) 465-5265.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SUZANNE.

THAT IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER CARD, UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

WELL, THERE WE GO.

RONNIE , RONNIE, ONE OF MY PASTORS.

THIS HERE JUST GAVE OUR, UH, OUR SPIRITUAL GREETING.

I HAVE TO THANK THE CITY THAT I LOVE AND THE CITY THAT I PROMOTE NOW WHEREVER I'M GOING, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME TO DO THINGS AND DO THINGS OUT OF THIS AREA.

AND, UH, YESTERDAY WAS A CASE IN POINT AT THE NIXON LIBRARY.

THEY ARE CELEBRATING THE 50TH, 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FREEING OF OUR, UH, HANOI HILTON, UH, GENTLEMAN THAT WERE SHOT DOWN DURING THE VIETNAM WAR IN NORTH VIETNAM, COMMUNIST NORTH VIETNAM.

AND WE HAD A PARADE OUT THERE WITH STUDENTS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON THE STREET WHERE WE HAD, WHERE WE WERE, THE CARS THAT WERE TAKING A ONE OF THOSE GENTLEMEN, UH, IN EACH CAR.

AND I WAS IN ONE OF THOSE CARS.

AND THEN THE SCHOOLS LET OUT ALL THE KIDS ALONG THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT FROM THE STARTING POINT.

AND IT WAS NUTS.

THE KIDS WENT CRAZY.

THEY WERE SINGING PATRIOTIC SONGS.

THEY WERE PAYING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, GOD BLESS AMERICA.

AND THEY WERE COMING UP TO THE CAR.

OUR GUY HAD THE WINDOW DOWN, SO THEY WERE GIVING HIM THE HIGH FIVES, JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

AND I WAS SITTING WATCHING ALL OF THIS.

AND THEN I GET, WE GET TO THE OUTSIDE CEREMONY OF THE LIBRARY ITSELF, AND, UH, THE FOLKS THAT ARE THERE, BRING ME UP TO THE FRONT ROW, SIT DOWN.

I END UP TALKING TO PEOPLE AND THEY START DANCING AROUND A LITTLE BIT LIKE I NORMALLY DO IN CHURCH, BECAUSE IT FELT LIKE IT, IT REALLY DID.

AND IT FELT LIKE I WAS HOME HERE TOO, AT THE VERY SAME TIME, BECAUSE IT'S A LOVE OF THE HEART.

IT'S A LOVE OF THE SPIRIT.

IT'S A LOVE OF OUR CITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS SO LOVING AS WELL IS THE PROTO DAM THAT'S NOW LOOKING LIKE AN AMERICAN DAM.

THE BICENTENNIAL 200TH BIRTHDAY THAT WE HAVE NOW HAD REDONE AND REPAINTED THANK IN GREAT MEASURE TO CYNTHIA.

AND PEOPLE CAN DRIVE BY AND SEE IT.

AND ALSO ENCO ENCOURAGE THEIR CHILDREN THAT ARE, AS YOU DRIVE BY AS A FAMILY, TO ENCOURAGE THE, THE KIDS THAT ARE IN THE CAR AND WATCHING THIS BEAUTIFUL FACE OF THIS, OF THIS, UH, DAM, UH, THAT, UH, REALLY COMMEMORATES THE, UH, WHAT WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING, KEEPING PEOPLE FREE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

NOW ASK THE KIDS TO PUT THEIR PHONES DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND START GOING OVER WHAT THE MEANING IS AND WHY IT'S THERE.

I WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME THAT YOU'VE DONE HAVING ME INVOLVED IN THE HONORING OF, UH, VETERANS HERE SINCE I'VE BEEN COMING HERE IN THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS.

PURPLE HEART CITY.

THANK YOU.

ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DO FOR US VETERANS AND COORDINATE THINGS WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND EACH INDIVIDUAL, ONE OF US.

THIS IS A BLA GREAT PLACE TO BE LIVING.

IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE LOVING FREEDOM AND TO BE GOVERNED PROPERLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, RONNIE.

HEY, RONNIE, HOW MANY RONNIE, HOW MANY FORMER POWS WERE AT THAT YESTERDAY? DO YOU KNOW? HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE? HOW MANY POWS WERE ACTUALLY IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT CEREMONY? IT WAS ABOUT 105.

OH, WOW.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT REALLY WAS.

AND FOR WHAT PEOPLE, IF PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS

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THE CELEBRATION OF 50 YEARS FROM THE RELEASE OF THE LAST POWS THAT WERE UP AT THE HANAWAY HILTON, AS THEY USED TO CALL IT, UH, THAT SERVED, SOME OF 'EM WERE INCARCERATED FOR SIX AND SEVEN YEARS.

SEVEN YEARS, YEAH.

TOR TORTURED ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND THE BULLETIN HAD A NICE ARTICLE ON THEM.

FRONT PAGE TODAY.

UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T, IF YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, CUZ IT SEEMED LIKE ANCIENT HISTORY, BUT THOSE OF US THAT SERVED IN VIETNAM MM-HMM.

REALLY HATS OFF TO THESE POOR INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, SUFFERED IMMENSELY, UH, BECAUSE THEY WERE SHOT DOWN DEFENDING OUR, OUR, UH, COUNTRY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, RONNIE, FOR BEING THERE.

APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, MAR GUY WAS THERE FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, AND HE WAS FRIENDS WITH THE VERY FIRST MAN ALVAREZ.

YEAH.

AND, UH, ALVAREZ, UH, ENDED UP, THEY BE, THEY BECAME FRIENDS AND THEY, THEY ENDED UP BEING TOGETHER AFTERWARDS.

AND THEN WHEN ALVAREZ THE FIRST ONE TO BE SHOT DOWN, UH, ASKED HIM, ASKED THE GUY THAT WAS IN OUR CAR TO, UH, MARRY THEM.

WOW.

ALL IN GOD'S PLAN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, RILEY.

ALL RIGHT.

[ CONFLICT OF INTEREST ANNOUNCEMENTS: Council Member abstentions shall be stated at this time for recordation on the appropriate item.]

OKAY.

CONFLICT OF INTEREST ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ANYBODY? NOPE.

GOOD.

[ CONSENT CALENDAR (9 ITEMS) - All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are considered routine by the City Council and may be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless, before the City Council votes on the motion to adopt, Members of the City Council or staff request the matter to be removed from the Consent Calendar for separate action. Removed consent items will be discussed immediately after the adoption of the balance of the Consent Calendar.]

NEXT WE HAVE CONSENT CALENDAR NINE ITEMS, ITEMS 15 THROUGH 23.

I'D LIKE TO, SO BRIAN, I'D LIKE TO PULL 18.

18.

OKAY.

ANYBODY? NO MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST.

SECOND.

MOTION PASSES.

FIVE ZERO.

OKAY, MARK.

BEN, WOULD

[18. Adopt ordinance amending the Chino Hills Municipal Code relating to day and time of regular City Council meetings entitled “An Ordinance of the City of Chino Hills Amending Title 2, Administration and Personnel, Chapter 2.04, City Council, Section 2.04.010 of the Chino Hills Municipal Code Relating to Day and Time of Regular Meetings of the City Council,” for second reading (Introduced April 25, 2023)]

YOU PLEASE, UH, DISCUSS FOR THE PUBLIC THE, UM, THE BASIS AND THE, THE REASON FOR ITEM 18 AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THAT CHANGE? SURE.

ITEM NUMBER 18 IS, UH, SEEKING TO CHANGE, UH, THE TIME OF THE MEETINGS FOR THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETINGS.

UH, AND WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD ALLOW, UH, THE COUNCIL TO START, UH, OUR CLOSED SESSIONS AT FOUR O'CLOCK, UH, AND AS EARLY AS FOUR O'CLOCK IN OUR REGULAR SESSIONS AT, UH, SIX O'CLOCK.

UH, THIS WOULD PUT US IN, UH, ALIGNMENT WITH MANY OF THE OTHER, UH, UH, AGENCIES, UH, THAT HAVE SIMILAR BOARD MEETINGS, WHETHER IT'S FIRE DISTRICT, UH, COUNCIL, UH, FOR CHINO ALL MEET AT, UH, SIX O'CLOCK AS OPPOSED TO OUR SEVEN O'CLOCK START TIME.

AND WHERE WILL THAT BE EFFECTIVE FOR US? IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE ON JUNE 24TH, BUT IT WOULD BE OUR JUNE 27TH MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WITH THAT, I WILL, UM, MOTION TO PASS THAT AND I'LL SECOND MOTION PASSES, THREE, TWO WITH JOES AND MARQUEZ VOTING NO.

ALL

[24. Receive and file Wastewater Cost-of-Service Rate Study draft; approve form of Notice; direct staff to administer Proposition 218 majority protest ballot process regarding proposed sewer rate increases; send notice of proposed rates and protest ballots to all property owners and current customers of sewer services in accordance with Resolution No. 2015R-43; determine action is exempt from review under California Environmental Quality Act; and set public hearing to consider proposed sewer rate increases for July 11, 2023]

RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO OUR DISCUSSION CALENDAR.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 24, THIS IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WASTEWATER COST OF SERVICE RATE STUDY, UM, AND ADMINISTER THE PROPOSITION TWO 18 MAJORITY PROTEST BALLOT PROCESS REGARDING PROPOSED SEWER RATE INCREASES.

UM, HABIB AZA ISAAC FROM IB CONSULTING TO PRESENT.

WILL YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM? WELCOME AGAIN.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, HERE ONCE AGAIN, UH, MAYOR ROGERS, LEAD COUNCIL MEMBERS OF TINA HILLS, UH, HABIB ISAAC WITH IB CONSULTING.

AND, UH, WE DID A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 25TH.

UH, THIS IS SIMILAR PRESENTATION, BUT THE DIFFERENCE OF TODAY COMPARED TO LAST TIME IS YOU ALSO HAVE A FULL COST OF SERVICE REPORT RELATED TO THE WASTEWATER STUDY AND THE PROPOSED RATES THAT WERE, WE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY.

AND I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THIS, UH, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE OR WATCHING, UH, GO THROUGH WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE TAKE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO GET TO THESE END RESULTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS? UH, WE GO THROUGH FINANCIAL PLANNING.

UH, WE LOOK AT YOUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POSITION OF YOUR UTILITIES, AS WELL AS, UM, WHAT THE PROPOSED FINANCIAL PLAN SHOULD BE.

UH, WE GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO WATER AND WASTEWATER ENTERPRISES.

AND THEN WITH WASTEWATER, WE TAKE ANOTHER STEP FURTHER WITH, UH, UPDATING THE COST OF SERVICE ANALYSIS TO COME UP WITH PROPOSED RATES FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FINANCIAL PLANNING, WE WORK WITH STAFF OVER MANY, MANY MONTHS, PROBABLY LIKE THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET, LOOKING AT EVERY EXPENSE LINE ITEM, AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT COSTS ARE INCURRED OF BOTH UTILITIES AND HOW THOSE COSTS ARE INCURRED.

AND THEN WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO

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DO PROJECTIONS MOVING FORWARD.

WE ALSO LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF DEMAND THAT IS PLACED ON YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. WITH WATER, WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF SALES AND, UM, WATER PRODUCTION WITH THE SUICIDE.

WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF EDS THAT ARE CONNECTED.

AND EDU STANDS FOR EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNIT, WHICH REPRESENTS ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

WE ALSO LOOK AT REVENUE PROJECTIONS.

SO WE DON'T JUST RELY ON YOUR BUDGET.

WE ALSO RECALCULATE THE REVENUE BASED ON THE BILLING INFORMATION FROM, UM, THE RAW DATA.

SO THEN WE RECALCULATE IT, WE COMPARE IT TO YOUR ACTUALS.

AND WHEN WE DO THAT, IT MAKES US FEEL COMFORTABLE.

WE, WE WANT TO BE WITHIN ONE TO 3%.

THAT MEANS WE CAPTURED ALL THE UNITS OF SERVICE WITHIN YOUR, YOUR AREA, AND THEN MAKES US FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH DOING PROJECTIONS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN ONE BIG THING WITH ANY UTILITY IS CAPITAL SPENDING.

UM, THE UNFORTUNATELY WITH CAPITAL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR CONSTITUENCY, THEY DON'T SEE IT, IT'S UNDERGROUND.

UM, BUT THIS IS, UH, UTILITIES ARE VERY CAPITAL INTENSIVE AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVERS WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, REVENUE NEEDS.

AND THEN LASTLY, ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT IS ALSO AN EXPENSE IS HAVING ADEQUATE RESERVES.

SO THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN A STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION MOVING FORWARD.

A COUPLE OTHER KEY ITEMS THAT I WANNA BRING UP, UM, RELATED TO, UH, BOTH UTILITIES AS FIRST INFLATION.

YOU KNOW, AS WE WE'RE IN A HYPERINFLATIONARY CLIMATE RIGHT NOW, SO FOR 24 AND 25, UH, WE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS THE MOST RECENT CHANGE, ANNUAL CHANGE IN, UM, CPI, AND WE'RE KEEPING THAT, UM, SET FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

AND THEN WITH CAPITAL, WE LOOKED AT THE ENGINEER'S NEWS RECORD, MOST RECENT ANNUAL CHANGE, AND FOR THOSE TWO YEARS, 24 AND 25 TO BE CONSERVATIVE OUTSIDE OF THOSE YEARS.

THEN WE GO BACK TO THE, UM, HISTORICAL AVERAGE, WHICH IS MORE IN LIKE THE 3.5% RANGE.

UH, WITH GROWTH, EVEN THOUGH YOU DO HAVE GROWTH THAT MAY COME ONLINE, WE DON'T ASSUME GROWTH COMING ON, UH, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CURRENT REVENUE OR YOUR CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO GENERATE THE REVENUE YOU NEED FOR YOUR ENTERPRISES.

WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS ENSURE THAT IF GROWTH DOESN'T OCCUR, THEN YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET YOUR, UM, REVENUE NEEDS UTILITY MANAGER JUST FOR INFORMATION OF THE AMOUNT OF ACRE FEET OF SALES THAT IS COMING FROM YOUR CUSTOMERS AND THE NUMBER OF, UH, SEWER CONNECTIONS.

AND AS MENTIONED, CAPITAL SPENDING IS A BIG NUMBER, UH, FOR WATER.

IT'S ON ANNUAL BASIS, 5 MILLION A YEAR.

WASTEWATER IS 1.5 MILLION.

UH, THERE'S NO PROPOSED DEBT THAT IS NEEDED.

UM, AND SO ALL THIS, UH, FUNDING IS PAY AS GO BASIS USING RATE REVENUE THAT COMES IN ON, ON ANNUALLY AS WELL AS RESERVES.

AND THEN WITH RESERVES, YOU HAVE RESERVE POLICIES THAT WE MODELED AND ALSO ARE MAKING SURE WE MAINTAIN OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE WATER ENTERPRISE.

WHEN WE THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE LOOKING IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL POSITION, ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE ITEMS THAT WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOUR UTILITY GENERATES POSITIVE NET INCOME OVER THE OPERATING EXPENSES.

AND WHEN YOU, WHEN THAT IS ACHIEVED, THEN THAT NET INCOME COULD GO TOWARDS CAPITAL SPENDING AND RESERVES.

THIS CHART RIGHT HERE SHOWS YOUR CURRENT REVENUES, WHICH IS THE BLACK TREND LINE GOING ACROSS THAT'S VERY LEVELED, SO THERE'S NO INCREASES.

THE RED DASH LINES IS JUST YOUR OPERATING COSTS AND INFLATED BASED ON THE DIFFERENT, THE VARIOUS LINE ITEMS THAT MAKE UP YOUR EXPENSES.

AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO LINES IS YOUR NET INCOME, WHICH IS REPRESENTED BY THE GRAY BARS.

SO YOU'RE BRINGING IN AROUND, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM 10 AND THEN LATER ON THE YEARS TO ABOUT $7 MILLION A YEAR TO FUND YOUR CAPITAL NEEDS.

AND THEN ONE OTHER COMPONENT TO BRING UP WITH WATER.

UH, WE ALSO ARE INCORPORATING THE TCP OPERATIONAL COSTS, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL TREATMENT FOR YOUR WATER SYSTEM, UH, THAT WAS BEING COMPLETED THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN YOU ALSO RECEIVED A SETTLEMENT TO OFFSET THAT COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IS RUN.

UM, THE COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE, I THINK ROUGHLY AROUND 20 MILLION.

AND THEN THE REMAINING, OR SORRY, IT WAS LIKE 10 MILLION, AND THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF SETTLEMENT IS GONNA BE USED TO OFFSET THAT OPERATING COST MOVING FORWARD.

THAT REMAINING FUNDS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT COST ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2039.

SO IT'S A VERY, REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE THAT ABILITY.

AND THEN WITH THE CAPITAL FUNDING, HERE'S, UH, WITH THE RESERVES, I I MEAN THE DEBT AMOUNT, WE DON'T NEED ANY DEBT.

THE BIG AMOUNT IN 50 OR 2024, THAT'S THE SETTLEMENT THAT'S BEING USED FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN THE PURPLE BARS IS THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL SPENDING COMING FROM RATES AND RESERVES.

AND THEN HERE ARE YOUR RESERVE BALANCES.

UM, THE RED TREND LINE IS YOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS BASED ON YOUR, YOUR POLICIES.

AND THEN THE BLACK DASH LINE IS YOUR TARGET.

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SO YOU ALWAYS WANNA BE WITHIN THERE.

UM, THIS ONE SHOWS US A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT AMOUNT.

SO BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN SO FOCUSED WITH THE TCP PROJECT, UM, YOU'RE NOW ABLE TO BRING FORWARD SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, STANDARD SYSTEM REINVESTMENT, THE REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS.

SO WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT, UM, DRAW DOWN OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

UH, SO IN SUMMARY WITH WATER, IT'S ALREADY IN A STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION WITH EXISTING RATES, EVEN WITH THE HYPERINFLATION THAT IS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO INCREASE YOUR WATER RATES.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.

WE DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO INCREASE YOUR WATER RATES.

THAT'S A VERY GOOD POSITION TO BE IN, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AGENCIES THAT ARE WORKING WITH THAT.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT 20, 30, 40% INCREASES.

UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, YOU COULD CATCH UP WITH YOUR, UM, CAPITAL R AND R SINCE YOU NOW HAVE COMPLETED THE TCP IMPROVEMENTS OR ABOUT TO, AND YOU CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN YOUR BUDGET BASE RATES.

AND THEN WITH WASTEWATER, UH, LOOKING AT THE SIMILAR APPROACH WITH LOOKING AT EXISTING REVENUE AND HOW THE, WHAT THE FINANCIAL POSITION IS, UH, WITH WASTEWATER, YOU'RE ACTUALLY ARE RUNNING AN OPERATING DEFICIT OF ROUGHLY 2.4 MILLION THAT'S PROJECTED FOR 24 THAT COULD GROW UP TO 3.8 MILLION BY 2028.

UM, THIS IS A FUNCTION OF THAT INFLATION THAT IS OCCURRING, BUT ALSO YOU HAVEN'T INCREASED RATES FOR 20 YEARS.

ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEEN INCREASING IS, UM, THE COST OF TREATMENT BY THE, IN THE EMPIRE UTILITY AGENCY, WHENEVER THEY INCREASE THEIR RATES, THEN YOU USE THE, THE PROVISIONS IN, IN THE STATUTES WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PASS THROUGH THAT COST TO YOUR CUSTOMERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

YOU DO NOT SET POLICY FOR THEM, YOU DO NOT SET THEIR RATES.

UM, SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST PASS IT ON AND DISCLOSE IT TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.

UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GENERATE POSITIVE INCOME HERE.

SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WANT TO, UM, RESOLVE.

YOUR CAPITAL SPENDING IS ROUGHLY 1.5 MILLION TO JUST UNDER $2 MILLION OVER THE FUND, UH, FINANCIAL PLAN PERIOD.

AND THEN WITH RESERVES, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE AN OPERATING DEFICIT, YOU HAVE HEALTHY RESERVES.

SO NOW THAT COULD ABSORB THAT.

UH, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE LEVERAGING, UM, YOUR RESERVES ON HAND TO THEN SLOWLY BILL UP RATE REVENUE AND NOT TRY TO FIX EVERYTHING IN ONE YEAR.

SO WITH THE PROPOSED FINANCIAL PLAN, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIX THAT OPERATING DEFICIT IN THE FIRST YEAR.

THAT WILL CAUSE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

WE'RE USING THE FACT THAT YOU DO HAVE A HEALTHY RESERVE BALANCE TO ABSORB THAT.

SO YOU'RE GONNA BE ABSORBING THAT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

AND THEN BY THE LAST TWO YEARS, YOU'RE THEN GONNA GENERATE POSITIVE NET INCOME AND BE OUT OF THAT.

UM, SITUATION.

CAPITAL FUNDING, AGAIN, JUST PAY AS YOU GO, YOU DON'T NEED ANY DEBT.

AND THEN NOW WITH, UM, BEING ABLE TO ABSORB IT AND WE WANT TO HAVE A SOFT LANDING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SEE THAT YOU'RE DRAWING YOUR RESERVES DOWN TO COVER THAT OPERATING DEFICIT AND ALSO FUND YOUR CAPITAL.

AND THEN WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT HEALTHY RESERVE BALANCE TO BE OVER YOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE REVENUE AMOUNT THAT IS NEEDED OVER THE FIVE YEARS IS 13.1 MILLION.

UH, THIS IS GONNA CAUSE AN INCREASE IN 24 OF JUST UNDER $2 ON A MONTHLY BILL.

AND THEN FOR THOSE OTHER YEARS OUTSIDE OF 2024, YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT AROUND $3, UH, OF AN INCREASE PER MONTH FOR EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT.

SO IT'S STILL A PRETTY, PRETTY NOMINAL AMOUNT.

SO WASTEWATER REQUIRES REVENUE INCREASES EACH YEAR.

WE ELIMINATE THE ONGOING OPERATING DEFICIT RESERVES ARE ABLE TO COVER THAT SHORTFALL.

AND THEN OVER THE FIVE YEARS YOU MAINTAIN YOUR HEALTHY RESERVE REQUIREMENTS.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST TO RECOVER, THIS IS WHAT MAKES UP YOUR RATES.

AND WE ALLOCATE IT BASED ON THE COST RELATED TO JUST HAVING AN ACCOUNT COST RELATED TO YOUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, WHICH IS YOUR CITY'S CHARGES.

THE, UM, I U A TREATMENT COST, WHICH IS THAT PASSER AMOUNT.

AND THEN YOU DO HAVE A PORTION OF YOUR SERVICE AREA THAT, UM, HAS LIFT STATIONS TO CONVEY THE WASTEWATER TO I U A.

UM, I THINK IT'S AROUND 4,000 OF THE 28,000 EDS THAT HAVE THAT.

AND YOUR RATES ARE ALREADY STRUCTURED WHERE THERE'S ONE AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE A PUMP CHARGE AND THERE'S OTHER AREA THAT DOES.

SO WE MAINTAIN THAT AS WELL TO BE IN LINE WITH COST OF SERVICE.

AND THEN HERE'S THE INFORMATION THAT WAS RECEIVED, UM, BY THE CITY STAFF FROM I U A AND THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED FINANCIAL PLAN.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR PUBLIC HEARING PRETTY SOON TO ADOPT THESE RATES.

UM, THE CURRENT RATE IS 2186 FOR 24, IT'LL BE 23 40, 20 25, 24 80.

AND THEN THEY INDICATED THAT WE SHOULD ASSUME 10% INCREASES, UH, FOR 26 THROUGH 28.

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HERE IS THE CHARGES PER E D D FOR THE AREA THAT DOES NOT NEED THAT ADD ADDITIONAL PUMPING.

IT'S 32 51, YOUR CURRENT RATE RIGHT NOW IS $30 AND 60 CENTS.

SO IT'S AN INCREASE OF JUST UNDER $2.

AND AGAIN, THESE RATES HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND THEN WITH THE PUMPING COMPONENT, THEY HAVE THE SAME COMPONENTS AS THOSE THAT ARE NOT, THAT DOES NOT NEED PUMPING.

BUT NOW PUMPING IS INCLUDED WITH A DOLLAR 26.

THE TOTAL PROPOSED CHARGE IS 33 77.

THEIR EXISTING CHARGE IS 32 10 BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE PUMPING.

SO THAT DIFFERENCE IS A DOLLAR 67.

AND THEN ALSO WANNA SHOW WHAT DOES LOOK LIKE OVER THE FIVE YEARS, NOT JUST THE FIRST YEAR.

AND YOU ALSO WILL SEE, UM, THE TWO SERVICE, UM, AREAS.

ONE WITH THE GRAVITY FLOWS, ONE THAT NEEDS THE PUMP, THE FLOW PUMP, AND THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MONTHLY BILL ON A**L BASIS.

AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S AROUND $2 AND IT GOES UP TO $3 AND THEN $4 ON THE VERY LAST, UM, YEAR.

AND AGAIN, THIS INCLUDES THE I U A, UM, INCREASED CHARGES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

AND THEN LOOKING AT, UH, REGIONAL SURVEY OF THE AGENCIES THAT ARE PART OF THE I U A, UH, MEMBERS, YOU'LL SEE WHERE YOU ARE CURRENTLY, WHICH IS IN THE VIOLET, AND THEN WHERE THE PROPOSED IS, WHICH NOW YOU'RE ALMOST LIKE SECOND TO THE HIGHEST.

HOWEVER, IF YOU NOTICE FROM MONTCLAIR ALL THE WAY OVER TO ONTARIO, IT REALLY IS NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE OF LESS THAN $2 BETWEEN THOSE IN, UM, IN, UM, CITIES AND AGENCIES.

I ALSO WANTED TO IDENTIFY, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S YEARS AT THE VERY BOTTOM VERSUS CITY OF CHINO 2022 CV W D 2019.

THOSE ARE THE FINAL YEARS OF THEIR RATES, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE MOST LIKELY OR CURRENTLY CONDUCTING A RATE STUDY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO HAVE PROPERTY CHINO ALLOWS YOU GO FOR FIVE YEARS, SO THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO THIS PROCESS AGAIN.

UH, SO THEY DON'T HAVE ANY NEW RATES ON THEIR BOOKS ANYMORE.

SO IT'S NOT, IT WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE THESE AGENCIES ARE IN A RATE STUDY RIGHT NOW OR ABOUT TO START A RATE STUDY.

AND SO THEN THIS SURVEY IS GONNA PROBABLY CHANGE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS WHERE YOU PROBABLY END UP BACK IN THE MIDDLE.

SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, WE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 25TH.

TODAY WE'RE PRESENTING AGAIN, BUT NOW YOU ALSO HAVE THE FULL COST OF SERVICE STUDY THAT IS PART WILL BECOME YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD THAT SUBSTANTIATES THE RACE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UM, NOTICES ARE GOING OUT, UM, BY FRIDAY THE 26TH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING JULY 11TH.

UM, AND WE WILL BE THERE, WE'LL BE HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

ON YOUR PRESENTATION ON PAGE 14, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COST OF SERVICE COMPONENTS.

YES.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN FURTHER UNDER ACCOUNT SERVICES WHAT THAT ENTAILS? IS THAT CITY ACCOUNT SERVICE OR IS THAT I U A? THAT COULD, THAT COULD BE, UH, LIKE, UM, UTILITY BILLING, UH, YOUR CENTRAL SERVICES ALLOCATIONS FROM YOUR COST ALLOCATION PLAN.

MM-HMM.

AND THEN, UM, INCIDENTALS INSURANCE, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT, THAT EVERY ACTIVE ACCOUNT SHOULD, SHOULD PAY FOR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENT? UH, YES.

AT THE LAST POLICY MEETING AND THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE IS FOR THAT MATTER BROUGHT UP THE WHOLE ISSUE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PASS THROUGH, UH, TO THE CITY.

YES.

WE'RE A COLLECTION AGENCY.

WE'RE THE ONES STUCK HAVING TO MAKE THE EXPLANATIONS TO OUR RATE PAYERS, OUR CITIZENS, WHY THESE CHARGES ARE THERE.

UH, I MADE A REQUEST AT THE LAST POLICY MEETING WHEN I WAS THERE ATTENDING IN MAYOR, UH, ROGERS PLACE THAT, UH, I E U A CONS GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO BEING THEIR, DOING THEIR OWN BILLING.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I WOULD JUST REEMPHASIZE THAT AGAIN, THAT, UH, THE BOOK, I MEAN, THIS IS A BIG CHARGE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE EXPLANATION FOR THE EXPLANATION FALLS ON OUR SHOULDERS.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S CORRECT.

I THINK THAT I E O A I E A U SHOULD BITE THE BULLET AND DO THEIR OWN BILLING ON THIS THING.

AND I THINK ALL OF THE COUNCIL WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THAT.

SO TAKE THAT BACK TO WHOEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY SERIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AND BE IMPLEMENTED.

YEAH.

AND THAT, THAT'S TOTALLY POSSIBLE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO CONSIDER.

BUT KEEP IN MIND ALSO, WHEN THEY INCUR MORE, WHEN THEY INCUR THAT COST THAT THEY DON'T INCUR NOW, THEN THAT'S GONNA ROLL INTO A HIGHER RATE THAT GETS PASSED THROUGH TO THE MEMBER AGENCIES.

YEAH.

BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE EXPLANATION FOR IT.

YES.

AND WE WON'T.

SO YES, CORRECT.

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I BELIEVE THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN HEARD BY SOMEONE IN THIS AUDIENCE.

.

ALL RIGHT.

OVER THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO THE TWO 18 HEARING AND THE COST FOR THAT, SINCE SOME OF THIS IS A PASSED THROUGH FOR AN I E U A, UH, AN I E U A CHARGE, DOES I E U A PICK UP ANY OF THE COST FOR US TO SEND THIS TWO 18 HEARING OUT? THANKS FOR STICKING AROUND.

UH, THE CITY BEARS THE FULL COST OF THAT CITY BLAIRS FULL COST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF I COULD.

YES, SIR.

UM, YOU MADE A COMMENT EARLIER THAT THIS WAS LIKE A PASS THROUGH.

YES.

UM, IT ISN'T RO I MEAN, IT'S A PROP TWO 18 VOTE.

SO EVEN THOUGH THAT IT'S PASSED THROUGH TO US, WE STILL HAVE TO DO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE ON A PROP TWO 18 VOTE.

IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? YEAH, SO I WOULD SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC RATES.

YOU COULD INDICATE THAT THIS IS A PASS THROUGH AND YOU'RE USING THE PROVISIONS OF PRO OF, UM, THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PASS IT THROUGH.

WHENEVER THEY INCREASE THE RATE, THEN YOU JUST PASS THROUGH THAT AMOUNT.

YOU DO HAVE TO PROVIDE A 30 DAY NOTICE, UH, BEFORE YOU COULD PASS THROUGH THAT COST.

OKAY.

BUT SINCE THEY PROVIDED THE ACTUAL RATES, IT JUST IS JUST MORE TRANSPARENCY TO PROVIDE THAT.

AND WHEN WE'RE DOING WATER RATES, UM, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, DOWN IN SAN DIEGO OR FOR METROPOLITAN, SOMETIMES THEY ONLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT YEAR OF RATES AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ARE TO BE DETERMINED.

SO IN THOSE CASES, THEY, WE WOULD INDICATE THAT THE, UM, CITY OR THE AGENCY IS GONNA USE THE PASS PASSTHROUGH PROVISION FOR ANY INCREASES FROM THE WHOLESALER.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO JUST SEND A POSTCARD FOR THOSE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

OKAY.

SO, MR. ATTORNEY, WHAT, AND WHAT AM I HEARING? AM I HEARING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A PROP TWO 18 VOTE? HAVE WE JUST A PASSTHROUGH NO, YOU, YOU DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

UM, AND, AND WE PUT, I MEAN, AND THE NOTICE THAT GOES OUT TO THE RESIDENCE, IT STATES THAT THERE'S THE COMPONENT THAT THERE'S, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS OF THIS.

THERE IS A CITY COMPONENT, UM, TO THESE RATES.

AND THEN THERE'S THE I U A COMPONENT.

AND WHAT THE RATE PAYERS ARE BEING TOLD IS THAT, UH, THESE TWO COMPONENTS, UM, YOU ARE, YOU ARE APPROVING A CEILING FOR THESE, ALTHOUGH THERE'S AN ASTERISK THAT THE CEILING COULD MOVE ON THE I E U A RATES BECAUSE THEY CAN CHANGE THOSE.

AND SO WE, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THE CITY STILL NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

OKAY.

SO NOW I'M GONNA, I AGREE WITH YOU.

SO NOW I LOOK AT PAGE 2 55 OF OUR STAFF REPORT.

AND UNDER THE, UM, THE EXAMPLES HERE OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, CUSTOMER CLASS, IT HAS A LITTLE STAR AND IT SAYS, UH, THE FEE IS COLLECTED BY THE CITY, A HUNDRED PERCENT GOES DIRECTLY TO I E A FISCAL YEAR 2024, FISCAL YEAR 2025.

AND THEN BELOW THAT, IT SAYS THEY WILL BE, THEY WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2023.

SO HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A PROP TWO 18 VOTE, IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN THAT FAST.

SO WOULD THE VOTE HAPPEN FIRST AND THEN I, THE RATE WOULD GO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, I BROUGHT FORTH THE PROP TWO 18 FOR THE I E WAY RATES.

SO WE ARE COVERED UNDER THAT PROP TWO 18 PROCESS.

SO NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR OWN SEWER RATES, WE'RE KIND OF DOING THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO WE WON'T HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE I E U WAY, UH, PROP TWO 18 PROCESS IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY COVERED FOR THE I E U A RATES THAT ARE GOING INTO EFFECT IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR THROUGH THE LAST PROP TWO 18 PROCESS.

SO EXPLAIN TO AGAIN, ATTORNEY, WHAT ARE WE DOING? IS IT JUST A PASS THROUGH? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE.

WELL, WHAT, WHEN THE CITY DID THIS LAST TIME, IT'S STILL EFFECTIVE FOR TWO MORE YEARS.

IF, IF, IF, IF THE CITY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TODAY, IT COULD WITH THE I U A PASS THROUGH GO TWO MORE YEARS, UM, WITH DOING A TWO 18 TO CAPTURE ALL THOSE COSTS.

BUT WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO NOW IS, I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE CITY'S COMPONENT THAT WANT TO INCREASE THE CITY'S COMPONENT.

SO YOU NEED TO DO IT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND THEN THE FOLLOWING THREE YEARS, YOU'RE CAPTURING BOTH.

THAT'S CONFUSING, RIGHT? MYSELF.

UM, WELL, IT'S NOT FOR ME, IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC.

I UNDERSTAND.

TO BE HONEST, I MEAN, THE CITY DID ONE THREE YEARS AGO AND THERE'S STILL TWO YEARS LEFT ON IT, BUT THAT DID NOT INCLUDE INCREASES THAT THE CITY NOW WANTS FOR ITS COMPONENT OF THE RATE.

OKAY.

DOES EVERYBODY OUT THERE UNDERSTAND? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, ONE ADDITIONAL POINT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ORDER OF MAGNITUDE ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2024 RATE FOR GRAVITY FLOW SYSTEM

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OR SEWER AREAS.

THE CITY O AND M FEE IS $9 AND 11 CENTS.

I REMEMBER THE I E U A TREATMENT PASS THROUGH CHARGE IS $23 AND 40 CENTS FOR THE 32 51.

SO IT IS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF TIMES WHAT WE AS A CITY PAY.

AND THAT PASS THROUGH IS TWO AND A HALF TIMES MORE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING FOR I E A U.

IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

THEY NEED TO BE COLLECTING IT THEMSELVES.

PURE AND SIMPLE.

THIS GENTLEMAN, JUST A CONSULTANT CAN EXACTLY , BUT, BUT HE CAN CARRY THE MESSAGE, BUT HE CAN CARRY THE MESSAGE.

MARCO'S HEARING THE MESSAGE.

MARCO'S AND MARCO'S HEARING IT AS WELL.

HE'S WELCOME.

UM, SO IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THEN IF THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER COMMENTS, CAN I MOVE THE ITEM? YEAH, I WOULD SECOND WE'RE GOOD WITH THE REPORT? ALL GOOD.

FINISHED? YEAH.

LET ME KNOW.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S FOR YOUR VOTE READING PLEASURE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY, AGAIN, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? IT'S A RECEIVING FILE.

DO WE ACTUALLY STILL HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT? OH, IS IT RECEIVING FILE? YEAH.

NO, WE'RE RECEIVING AND FILED THE RATE STUDY, BUT YOU'RE APPROVING THE FORM OF THE NOTICE AND YOU'RE APPROVING THE PROCESS OF THE PROP TWO 18.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE NEED A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

RELUCTANTLY VOTED.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES FOUR ONE WITH MARQUEZ VOTING NO.

THE NEXT

[25. Adopt resolution electing to have charges for Sewer Service collected on the Tax Roll, directing preparation and filing of a report, fixing the time and place for Public Hearing, and providing notice thereof, and authorize Amendment No. 1 to Agreement No. A2021-182 with Willdan Financial Services increasing total not-to-exceed amount to $565,200 to provide administration services for sewer-only parcels]

ITEM IS ITEM 25 TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION.

ELECTING TO HAVE THE CHARGES FOR SEWER SERVICE COLLECTED ON THE TAX ROLE FINANCE DIRECTOR, BEHAK TO PRESENT.

OKAY, CHRISTA, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

THE ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION IS PLACING THE SEWER ONLY RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS AS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ON THE COUNTY TAX ROLL.

CURRENTLY, THE CITY BILLS APPROXIMATELY 19,600 RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND 2,600 COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS FOR SEWER SERVICE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 224 RESIDENTIAL SEWER ONLY ACCOUNTS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

THESE CUSTOMERS ARE BILLED FOR SEWER SERVICE ONLY SINCE THEIR WATER IS PROVIDED BY ANOTHER AGENCY.

AND TRASH SERVICES BILLED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT.

SINCE THE SU, THE CITY, I'M SORRY.

SINCE THEY ARE SEWER ONLY ACCOUNTS, THE CITY CANNOT SHUT OFF WATER OR PULL TRASH CANS TO ENFORCE PAYMENT.

ALTHOUGH THE CITY UTILIZES THE LIEN PROCESS, IT ONLY APPLIES TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT STILL OWN THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME OF LIEN PLACEMENT AND CANNOT BE USED FOR DELINQUENT TENANTS.

PLACING THE SEWER FEES ON THE COUNTY TAX ROLL AS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IS AN OPTION AVAILABLE TO THE CITY AND ENSURES THE CITY WILL EVENTUALLY RECEIVE PAYMENT.

THIS IS COMMON PRACTICE AMONG AGENCIES THAT PROVIDE SEWER SERVICES AND HAS THE BENEFITS OF SIMPLIFYING THE SEWER BILLING PROCESS AND PROVIDING A CONSISTENT MEANS OF COLLECTING RESIDENTIAL SEWER CHARGES.

COMMERCIAL SEWER CHARGES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE BILLED ON THE TAX ROLL SINCE THEY ARE BASED ON WATER CONSUMPTION AND ARE NOT FLAT FEES.

STAFF RECOMMENDS PLACING THE RESIDENTIAL SEWER CHARGES FOR SEWER ONLY ACCOUNTS ON THE TAX ROLL, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 224 ACCOUNTS.

THIS WILL REQUIRE COUNSEL TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION, ELECTING TO HAVE CHARGES FOR SEWER SERVICE COLLECTED ON THE TAX ROLL, DIRECTING THE PREPARATION AND FILING OF A REPORT, FIXING THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND PROVIDING NOTICE.

THE PROPOSED PUBLIC HEARING DATE IS AUGUST 8TH.

STAFF IS ALSO REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT WITH WILL DAN FINANCIAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE ANNUAL ADMINISTRATION SERVICES TO PLACE THE RESIDENTIAL SEWER SERVICE CHARGES FOR SEWER ONLY ACCOUNTS ON THE TAX ROLL, AND TO INCREASE THE TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FROM 560,000 TO 565,200.

IF COUNSEL APPROVES THIS ACTION, STAFF WILL WORK WITH WILL DAN TO PREPARE A WRITTEN REPORT CONTAINING A DESCRIPTION OF EACH PARCEL OF RESIDENTIAL RAIL PROPERTY RECEIVING SEWER ONLY SERVICE, AND THE AMOUNT OF THE SEWER CHARGES FOR EACH PARCEL.

WE'LL MAIL THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF, I'M SORRY, THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING TO ALL AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND PUBLISH THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING IN THE CHAMPION ON SATURDAY, JULY 22ND AND SATURDAY JULY 29TH.

THERE IS SUFFICIENT FUNDING IN THE SEWER FUND UTILITY BILLING OPERATING BUDGET TO COVER THE COST OF THIS PROCESS.

I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT, CHRISTA, THANK YOU.

NO, NO QUESTIONS.

NO, JUST A QUICK COMMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

RAY AND I HAD BEEN ON A FINANCIAL AD HOC A WHILE BACK, AND WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD SEE THINGS COME ACROSS THAT, YOU KNOW, WATER BILLS THAT WEREN'T PAID

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AND OTHER ITEMS LIKE THIS, RESIDENTS THAT WOULD SKIP OUT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, WOULD LEAVE THE REST OF US HOLDING THE BAG.

SO, I APPRECIATE STAFF FINALLY PUTTING THINGS ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY TAX, UH, ROLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REST OF THE RATE PAYERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PONYING UP THE BILL, UH, AREN'T STUCK HOLDING IT.

SO, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

MR. AMIR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS ITEM LOOKING FOR A MOTION SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

OKAY.

BRIAN.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, KRISTIN.

MOTION PASSES.

FIVE ZERO.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

WE'RE ONTO A PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS

[26. Adopt resolutions approving associate membership in California Enterprise Development Authority (CEDA); and execution of Associate Membership Agreement relating to Associate Membership of City in Authority; approving issuance of Revenue Bonds by CEDA in aggregate principal amount not-to-exceed $36,100,000 for refinancing certain educational facilities and other matters relating thereto for benefit of Heights Christian Schools; and finding actions exempt from review under the California Environmental Quality Act, respectively; and authorize Mayor, City Manager, City Clerk and other Officers and Officials of City to take all actions necessary to effectuate the purposes of these resolutions]

PUBLIC HEARING IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTIONS APPROVING THE ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP IN CALIFORNIA ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, ALSO KNOWN AS C A, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS BY C A IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 36,100,000 FOR REFINANCING CERTAIN EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE HEIGHTS CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS FINANCE STRUCTURE, BAHA TO PRESENT GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, UH, SHE MENTIONED A TAX EQUITY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT OF 1982, OR TERA HEARING ON APRIL 25TH.

THE HEIGHTS CHRISTIAN SCHOOL REQUESTED THAT THE CITY CONDUCT A TERA HEARING AND APPROVE A RESOLUTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH INTERNAL REVENUE CODE SECTION 1 47 F AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF TAX EXEMPT OBLIGATIONS BY THE CALIFORNIA ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR CDAS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 36.1 MILLION.

THE PROCEEDS OF THE OBLIGATIONS WILL BE USED TO REFINANCE THE COST OF ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION, AND IMPROVEMENT OF CERTAIN EDUCATIONAL AND A ANCILLARY FACILITIES LOCATED AT THE BORROWER'S CAMPUSES.

THE TEER HEARING IS REQUIRED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OBLIGATIONS TO BE ISSUED AS TAX EXEMPT AND AN ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP IN C A IS NEEDED TO ISSUE THESE OBLIGATIONS.

C A'S PURPOSE IS TO ISSUE TAX EXEMPT AND TAXABLE CONDUIT REVENUE BONDS TO FUND COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITHIN MEMBER JURISDICTIONS.

PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 47 F OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE, THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS BY C A MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY BECAUSE TWO OF THE CAMPUSES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY.

THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT ON THE CITY AS A RESULT OF THIS ACTION.

THE CITY DOES NOT BEAR ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS OF THE INTEREST OR DEBT SERVICE ON THE OBLIGATIONS OR ANY OTHER MATTER RELATED TO THE OBLIGATIONS.

THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT INCLUDES TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, ADOPT A RESOLUTION, APPROVING AN ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP IN C A, AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN ASSOCIATE ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT, ADOPTING A REV, A RESOLUTION, APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE BONDS BY C A, AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 36.1 MILLION, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK, AND OTHER OFFICIALS AND OFFICERS OF THE CITY TO TAKE ALL ACTIONS NECESSARY TO, WITH RESPECT TO THE ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP IN CDA.

JOINING US TONIGHT IS CLAUDE LAMAR, PRESIDENT AND C O OF THE HEIGHTS CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS, AND JESSICA SHAHAM THEIR ATTORNEY.

WE CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

QUESTIONS NONE.

READY? GOOD.

HOW MANY OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA? OH, I HAVE DONE THIS.

DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AGENCIES THAT ARE A PART OF C A I DON'T HAVE A COUNT, BUT I WOULD SAY MAYBE AROUND 50, I THINK PROBABLY ABOUT 400.

I'M GONNA, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OFFICIALLY NOW.

WE CAN GO FOR IT.

GO FOR IT.

OH, HI.

UM, I'M JESSICA SHAHAM.

I'M JESSICA AT CUAC ROCK FROM LA I'M BOND COUNCIL AND BORROWERS COUNCIL TO HEIGHTS, CHRISTIANS POOL, UM, AND FINANCING, REFINANCING, SORT OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS.

THEY HAVE TWO CAMPUSES HERE IN CHINO HILLS THAT, UM, A PORTION OF THE BONDS WILL, UM, BE APPLIED TO REFINANCE DEBT ALLOCATED TO THAT CAMPUS.

UM, IT, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF GOING TO EVERY JURISDICTION WHERE THEY HAVE A CAMPUS NOW AND TALKING TO ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, UM, STAFF MEMBERS, STAFF MEMBER HERE HAS BEEN.

SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTELLE.

YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL AND WE APPRECIATE BEING HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I WILL SAY I'M ALSO, UM, AN ATTORNEY FOR C A, UM, OUR FIRM REPRESENTS THEM, WHERE THE REGULAR COUNCIL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO JPS OR CDA AND SPECIFICALLY? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AS WELL.

GOOD.

I THINK THEY'RE ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING.

SO YOU WORK WITH LA LAHABRA AND CHINO ON THIS SPECIFIC LAHABRA HEIGHT BOND, LAHABRA HEIGHTS, YEAH.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

CAN I GET THE LOCATION OF THE SCHOOLS JUST FOR

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PERSONAL INFORMATION? GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

UM, CHINO HILLS, PARKWAY PRESCHOOL, UH, ON THE CORNER OF GRAND ON CHINOS PARKWAY.

OKAY.

BEEN THERE SINCE THE MIDNIGHT, UH, PURCHASE AND BUILT THAT PROPERTY.

AND THEN, UH, ON MAD GATA, JUST OFF OF GRAND ACROSS FROM THE JUNIOR HIGH.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S, YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT REPUTATION, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

EXCUSE ME.

GREAT REPUTATION.

THANK YOU.

YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB.

VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT, THAT CAMPUS TOO, MID NINETIES, WE, WE, UH, PURCHASED AND BUILT THAT CAMPUS AS WELL.

OKAY.

BEING AN ASSOCIATE MEMBER, WHAT DID, WHAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY? I KNOW THERE'S NO OBLIGATION, NO LIABILITY, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE AS A CITY NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE? UM, JUST SIGNED THAT ASSOCIATE MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT.

UM, AND THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LOVE IT.

BLESS YOU.

BLESS YOU.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE ITEM.

OKAY.

SO HOLD ON ONE SEC.

OH, IT'S PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? NOPE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY RAY.

OH, CYNTHIA, I DON'T CARE.

DOESN'T MATTER.

I RESEND MY MOTION.

OKAY.

SO WHO MADE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

NO, CYNTHIA, FIRST.

I'LL SECOND.

OH BOY.

THANK YOU.

SO CYNTHIA MADE THE MOTION.

RAY IS THE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

THE POWER OF THE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

FIVE ZERO.

OKAY.

ARE YOU HAPPY? YOU TOO.

YEAH.

I GET MY NAME ON THE RECORD FOR ONCE.

YEAH.

.

OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING ON.

THANK YOU ALL.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO

[ PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER REPORT]

OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION REPORTS.

SO FIRST IS PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER NICOLE.

THANK YOU MAYOR ROGERS.

AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

JUST A FEW QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS.

INLAND VALLEY HUMANE SOCIETY WILL BE CONDUCTING NEIGHBORHOOD CANVASSING FOR DOG LICENSES IN CHINO HILLS, BEGINNING ON MAY 30TH.

DURING THIS TIME, RESIDENTS MAY SEE I V H S EMPLOYEES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AT THEIR DOORS.

THEIR EMPLOYEES WILL BE DRIVING THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES AND WILL CARRY A BADGE, AND THEIR UNIFORM CONSISTS OF BLACK PANTS, A BLACK SHIRT, AND A HAT.

WITH THE I V H S LOGO IN RECREATION NEWS, RESIDENTS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE CITY FOR A GUIDED HIKE AT THE MCCOY TRAILHEAD ON JUNE 3RD AT 9:00 AM THIS IS A TRAILHEAD LOCATED BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE HORSE ARENAS AT THE MCCOY CENTER.

DOOR PRIZES, CRAFTS, AND EDUCATIONAL BOOTHS WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE, AND THIS EVENT WILL HELP KICK OFF THE CITY CELEBRATION OF GREAT OUTDOORS MONTH.

AND RESIDENTS CAN CONTINUE DISCOVERING THE CITY'S 48 MILES OF TRAILS BY TAKING PART IN THE MONTH LONG TRAILS CHALLENGE FOR A CHANCE TO WIN PRIZES.

TO LEARN MORE AND SUBMIT YOUR MILES, VISIT CHINO HILLS.ORG/EVENTS.

CINNAMON PARK LOCATED NEAR ROLLING RIDGE DRIVE IN VAL VISTA DRIVE.

IT'S TEMPORARILY CLOSE UNTIL JUNE 1ST WHILE CREWS WORK TO REMOVE ASPHALT WALKWAYS AND REPLACE THEM WITH CONCRETE.

AND LASTLY, UH, CITY FACILITIES AND THE LIBRARY WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, MAY 29TH.

AND RECOGNITION OF MEMORIAL DAY TRASH SERVICE WILL BE DELAYED ONE DAY BY, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PA REPORT, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

REAL FAST.

IS THERE POSSIBLE TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE MAGNA MAGNETIC SIGN THAT YOU CAN PUT ON A CAR FOR I I VHS? SO THIS WAY THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE CAR THAT SHOWS THAT THEY'RE PART OF I V H S.

WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT AND, UH, MAKE THAT REQUEST OF THEM.

THANK YOU.

AND WE'RE NOT DOING, WE'RE NOT GIVING, WE'RE NOT DOING A PUSHOUT TO RESIDENCE OR ANYTHING.

RIGHT.

WE WILL DO A PRESS RELEASE AND IT WILL BE ON OUR WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL GOOD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO

[ SAFETY UPDATES - Fire and Police]

OUR BATTALION CHIEF JOE.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MAYOR ROGERS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND THOSE LISTENING TO THE REPORT.

MY NAME IS, UH, STATED, JOE DESOTO.

I'M A BATTALION CHIEF WITH CHINO VALLEY FIRE DISTRICT AND, UH, REPRESENTING THE STAFF TODAY.

THIS WEEK, THE FIRE CHIEF AND SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMAND STAFF ARE AT A CFED CONFERENCE.

THAT CONFERENCE IS LOCATED IN INDIAN WELLS.

UM, PRIMARY, UH, REASON FOR THAT CONFERENCE IS EMS DISASTER AND FIRE RELATABLE BUSINESS.

ADDITIONALLY, TWO OF OUR FIRE CHIEFS ARE IN ST.

LOUIS AT THE FIREHOUSE MAGAZINE'S 2023 NATIONAL STATION DESIGN CONFERENCE.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S A FIRE STATION DESIGN CONFERENCE.

UM, IT'S VERY WELL ATTENDED.

AND, UH, THEY'RE MEETING WITH NATIONAL EXPERTS TO ENSURE THAT BOTH, UM, THAT WE BRING FORTH THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO A FIRE STATION TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE GONNA LIVE IN THAT, UH, THAT BUILDING AND ULTIMATELY BUILD A STATION, WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR 50 TO 75 YEARS.

UH, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS EXTENDED THE INTENT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE PROPOSAL FOR THE AMBULANCE VENDOR.

UM, THAT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE ON JUNE 5TH, 2023.

I BELIEVE THAT'S MONDAY, IS IT? OR THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

ON MONDAY, UH, THE FIREBOARD PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, AND THE FIRE CHIEF LOOK FORWARD TO THE QUARTERLY MEETINGS SERVED SCHEDULED FOR THE END OF THE MONTH.

ON

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MAY 20TH, THE CHINO VALLEY FIRE FOUNDATION HOSTED THE 14TH ANNUAL BIKE AND CAR SHOW.

IT WAS VERY, VERY WELL ATTENDED.

IT TOOK PLACE AT THE SHOPS IN CHINO HILLS.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT THERE, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

IT WAS SOLD OUT AND THERE WAS OVER 150 CARS REPRESENTED.

UM, IT WAS A GREAT, UH, GREAT TURNOUT FOR US.

DURING THE MONTH OF MAY.

CHINO VALLEY FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, PERSONNEL ARE PREPARING FOR THE UPCOMING AND WILDLAND SEASON BY CONDUCTING WILDLAND FIREFIGHTING TRAINING EXERCISES.

UH, THESE ARE LIFE TRAINING EXERCISES WE DON'T BURN, BUT WE, WE, UH, WE GO OUT THERE AND SIMULATE THEM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, SO WE'RE WELL PREPARED.

IN ADDITION, WE ALSO HOSTED THE ANNUAL MULTI-AGENCY WHILE LAND PREPARED NEST DRILL FOR SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.

UH, IT TOOK PLACE OVER TWO DAYS IN THE STATE PARK.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF AGENCIES REPRESENTED THAT.

AND INTERESTING ENOUGH, UH, SOME HAD BEEN THERE BEFORE ON INCIDENCES IN THE PAST.

UM, BUT LOTS AND LOTS OF, UH, INDIVIDUAL FIREFIGHTERS THAT CAME, HAD NEVER BEEN TO THE PARK, AND THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HOW BIG AND HOW, UM, UH, HOW MASSIVE AND, AND, AND BEAUTIFUL IT WAS.

UM, THIS WEEK, UH, MAY 21ST, THE 27TH IS NATIONAL EMS SERVICES WEEK.

I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK THE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR CUNA VALLEY FIRE DISTRICT, BUT ALSO OFFER AN EXTENSION TO ALL THE HARDWORKING EMS PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO TAKING CARE OF OTHERS.

AND THEN AGAIN, UM, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, UH, I'M A FATHER OF THREE KIDS THAT SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES, AND, UM, JUST WANT TO REMEMBER THOSE THAT GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE ON THIS MEMORIAL DAY COMING UP.

SO END OF MY REPORT AND, UH, BEST REGARDS TO ALL.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU, JOE.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR POLICE CHIEF GARTH AL.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR ROGERS, VICE MAYOR MORAN COUNCIL CITY STAFF AND RESIDENCE.

ON SUNDAY, MAY 21ST, DEPUTIES WERE DISPATCHED TO A RECKLESS DRIVER NEAR CHINO HILLS PARKWAY AND GRAND.

AFTER ACTIVATING THEIR EMERGENCY LIGHTS, THE DRIVER FAILED TO YIELD AND CONTINUED ON CHINO HILLS PARKWAY.

A PURSUIT INTERVENTION TECHNIQUE WAS IMPLEMENTED TO BRING THE VEHICLE TO A STOP BEFORE IT COLLIDED WITH ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

THE DRIVER WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ARRESTED FOR FELONY EVADING AND DUI AND TRANSPORTED TO JAIL.

IN ADDITION TO OUR SIX NEW DEPUTIES, WHICH STARTED ON MAY 6TH.

ON MAY 20TH, WE ADDED ANOTHER DEPUTY, BRINGING OUR NEW DEPUTY COUNT FOR THOSE ON OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM TO SEVEN.

WE ARE EXCITED TO BE ALMOST FULLY STAFFED FOR PATROL AND ARE ANTICIPATING THEIR SUCCESSFUL COMP COMPLETION IN SEPTEMBER.

I'LL TRY AND ARRANGE, UH, AT A FUTURE, FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING TO HAVE 'EM COME IN HERE.

PERFECT.

INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL NETWORKS, UH, SYSTEMS COME ONLINE FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND BECOME FUNCTIONAL, WHICH EASES SOME OF THE HAND PROCESSING OF REPORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

UNFORTUNATELY, IF A CITIZEN FILED A POLICE REPORT BETWEEN APRIL, 2019 AND APRIL, 2023, WE ARE STILL UNABLE TO ACCESS THOSE DOCUMENTS AND REST IN THE COMMUNITY.

PLEASE BE PATIENT AND OUR STAFF WILL CONTACT YOU, UH, AS SOON AS THEY DO BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ANY QUESTIONS? OUR CHIEF? ALL RIGHT.

[ COUNCIL REPORTS Mayor Rogers Chino Hills Community Foundation Board Council Member Johsz West Valley Mosquito and Vector Control District Board Council Member Marquez Cal Cities (League of California Cities) Latino Caucus Legislative Committee Metro Gold Line Foothill Extension Construction Authority Foothill Gold Line Joint Powers Authority San Bernardino County Transportation Authority General Policy Committee Metro Valley Study Session Transit Committee Southern California Association of Governments Legislative Communications and Membership Committee Southern California Regional Rail Authority (Metrolink) Board]

OKAY.

MOVING ON TO COUNCIL REPORTS.

I HAVE THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS A CHINO HILLS COMMUNITY FOUNDATION.

WE MET THE OTHER DAY.

WE MEET SIX TIMES A YEAR AS A BOARD.

THERE'S A 16 BOARD MEMBERS, AND JUST A BRIEF REVIEW.

WE WELCOMED RICK SHIBA TO THE, TO THE BOARD, WHO'S BEEN A LONG TIME, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER ON THE WINE WALK, AND HAS HELPED TO RAISE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THE FOUNDATION, WHICH EQUATES TO THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO, THIS WAS OUR ANNUAL MEETING, MAY IS OUR ANNUAL MEETING.

AND AGAIN, WE, WE STARTED IN, UH, IT WAS FORMED IN 2008.

OUR FIRST MEETING WAS PROBABLY EARLY 2009.

SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ANNUAL MEETINGS.

AND DURING THE ANNUAL MEETING, WE ELECTED OFFICERS.

AND THE OFFICERS STAYED THE SAME FOR THIS COMING YEAR, WHICH MADE ME, UH, THE, UH, CHAIR AGAIN AND CYNTHIA'S VICE CHAIR AND PETER PURITAN'S TREASURER AND MARY FA HABER AS SECRETARY.

SO A GOOD TEAM TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON.

UH, AND WE'RE KICKING OFF OUTREACH AND PLANNING FOR THE WINE WALK, WHICH IS OCTOBER 14TH FOR ANY OF YOU VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW, SET ASIDE.

I KNOW I'M LOOKING AT HER ALSO.

YES.

AND MAYBE JEFF, WE CAN GET YOU AND TOM ANYWAY, OCTOBER 14TH.

UH, THAT'S IT FOR BOARD, UNLESS YOU CAN THINK OF ANYTHING THAT I OVERLOOK.

NOPE, WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO BRIAN WITH WEST VALLEY.

LET'S DO, UH, WE HAD A BRIEF MEETING ON TUESDAY EMOTIONALLY, JUST A COUPLE OF MINOR BUDGETARY CHANGES, JUST MEETING, AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH

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INFLATION, COST FOR EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.

SO JUST SOME MINOR INCREASES TO THE BUDGET.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REPORT.

OKAY.

LOVE THE BRIEF REPORT.

EXCELLENT.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, WHAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

FIRST OF ALL, MY FIRST MEETING WAS ACTUALLY WITH CALC CITY'S LATINO CAUCUS.

WE HAD A LARGE AGENDA AND OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CANNOT SPEAK, SO I CANCELED THE MEETING.

SO WE'LL DO IT HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

UM, SB CTA, THE GENERAL POLICY COMMITTEE, WE, WE REVIEWED MEASURE I, UH, FOR THE SUM COMING NEAR PROJECTS.

UH, WE REVIEWED TELECONFERENCE LOCATIONS FOR THE BROWN ACT MEETINGS.

WE ESTABLISHED THE NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR ALL EMERGENCY INCIDENTS.

WE REVIEWED EMPLOYER RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTION, ADVANCED PAYMENTS, GOING TO METRO VALLEY STUDY SESSION.

WE, UH, GOT UPDATES AND TALKED ABOUT INTERSTATE 10 CORRIDOR CONSTRUCTION AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN, AND WAS GIVEN UPDATES.

TRANSIT COMMITTEE, WE DID AN RFP P FOR VAN, PULLED VEHICLE PROVIDERS, UM, OMNI TRAN SHORT RANGE TRANSIT PLAN, FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24 BUDGET.

WE REVIEWED AND APPROVED S C R R A PRELIMINARY BUDGET REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25 FOR METROLINK WAS APPROVED.

S C R R A PRELIMINARY BUDGET REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 20 24 FOR AL SERVICE GOING TO SAG.

WE REVIEWED HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION BILLS.

A LOT OF 'EM OVER 26, 600 TOTAL BILLS WERE INTRODUCED TO THE LEGISLATOR, UM, OR LEGISLATION.

AND WE HAVE ABOUT 1,062 THAT ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD.

WE WERE GIVEN UPDATES ON THE GOVERNOR'S MAY REVISE PROPOSAL, AND THERE'S A SHORT SHORTFALL.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD RIGHT NOW BETWEEN 30 TO 32 BILLION ON REVENUES COMING INTO THE STATE FOR S C R R A METROLINK.

I ATTENDED A COMMS MEETING.

WE WENT OVER TO THE QUARTERLY REPORT FOR CONTRACTS REPORTED BY THIRD PARTY AGREEMENTS EXECUTED BY OUR CEO KETTLE.

AND THEN WE HAD UPDATES ON THE SYSTEM SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR OF 2023.

THOSE ARE MY REPORTS, SIR.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THAT'S IT FOR COUNCIL REPORTS.

SO LET'S DO

[ COUNCIL COMMENTS]

OUR, UH, COUNCIL COMMENTS.

CYNTHIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THINGS OFF? YEAH, I'M SURE WE'LL ALL COMMENT ABOUT HOW GREAT THE GRADUATIONS WERE THAT WE ALL ATTENDED.

UM, IT WAS NICE TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION AND WE JUST REALIZED HOW, UH, SUCCESSFUL OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE IN SO MANY WAYS.

WHEN WE WERE HEARING THOSE SPEECHES FROM THE ADMINISTRATORS AND EVERYTHING, UM, I WANTED TO PUBLICLY CONGRATULATE DEPUTY NOEL NERON FOR BEING, UM, NAMED SRO OF THE YEAR.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING HIM AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING TO GIVE HIM THE PROPER RECOGNITION MM-HMM.

CHIEF.

AND, UM, I THINK I, I SPOKE FOR ALL OF US WHEN I WENT ON CAMPUS WHEN WE WERE, HE WAS AW, UM, SURPRISED THAT HE GOT THE AWARD.

THAT, UM, HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEIR WORK AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE THEIR BACK, AND HOW MUCH WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM A HUNDRED PERCENT.

AND, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, WE'VE GOT A FEW THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, LONG CARBON CANYON ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CARBON CANYON, BETWEEN FIELDS BAR AND CHINOS PARKWAY.

UM, WE'RE HAVING THE WEEDS THAT ARE GROWING IN.

I KNOW DAN, YOU'RE GONNA CALL CALTRAN.

SO ANY STATUS ON THAT BY ANY CHANCE? UH, NO STATUS YET, UH, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH CALTRANS.

OKAY.

SINCE I HAVE YOU TO THE PALM TREES, I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND I KNOW IT HAS TO DO WITH THE BIRD SEASON OR THE L SEASON.

SO ONCE THAT'S OVER, WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH, WITH THE TREES, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, BIRD DASHING SEASON.

UH, AND UH, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE, BUT I KNOW IT'S SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER.

UH, WE, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY, ANY WORK WITHIN TREES, WHETHER IT'S TRIMMING OR REMOVAL, UH, DURING BIRDING SEASON.

SO ONCE THAT SEASON IS OVER, THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR GO OUT.

I'M SORRY, REMOVING THOSE PALM TREES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, POLICE CHIEF AND ALSO CITY MANAGER, UM, I'M BEGINNING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN CARBON CANYON ABOUT RACING.

IT PROBABLY STARTS RIGHT AROUND 10:00 PM AT NIGHT AND ALMOST EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

SO WHATEVER WE COULD DO, UH, MAYBE EXTRA PATROLS OR SOMETHING.

AND IT ACTUALLY IS FROM THE S TURNS TO CHINO HILLS PARKWAY IS WHERE THEY'RE RACING.

SO IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

UM, AS FAR AS ACCIDENTS, IT SEEMED LIKE WE JUST HAD AN ACCIDENT AND THE POWER WENT OFF IN CARBON CANYON.

YEAH.

UM, I KNOW I'VE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO GIVE ME THE INCIDENCES AS FAR AS ACCIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, BUT APPARENTLY WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THAT UNLESS SOMEBODY GETS HURT CORRECT.

OR REPORT IS FILLED OUT, UH, WE HAVE A, A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT THE REPORTS BECOME AWARE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TRAFFIC COLLISIONS THAT DON'T, UH, UH, IN END UP IN BEING REPORTED.

SO NO, OUR, OUR STATISTICS ARE NOT ABSOLUTELY COMPLETE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS TELL ANYONE, UH, WHAT HAPPENED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I JUST WANTED

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THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT, CUZ WE GET ASKED THAT QUESTION ALL THE TIME, THAT IT'S UNSAFE.

JUST LIKE, AGAIN, THAT THERE COULD BE SOME HAZARDS IN ON CARBON CANYON.

UM, I'M GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON CANYON HILLS ROAD AT THE LIQUOR STORE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, CROSS OF CARBON CANYON.

DO WE HAVE, DO WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? FOR? THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT CARBON CANYON ROAD IN CANYON HILLS.

YES, SIR.

UM, SO PUBLIC WORK STAFF MET WITH CALTRANS, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK.

UM, THERE WAS A DESIGN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE BACK IN 2018.

UH, WE HAD A, A SET OF 60% PLANS.

UM, I, I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY IN TERMS OF WHY THAT PRO UH, THAT SET OF PLANS DID NOT MOVE FORWARD.

UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SO WE'RE, UH, UH, BEGINNING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AGAIN WITH CALTRANS.

UH, THEY DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO IRON OUT, UM, ALL THE ISSUES THAT THEY WANT US TO BRING FORWARD.

UH, ONCE WE KNOW THAT WE WILL REVISE OUR PLANS AND, UH, CONTINUE THAT, UH, THAT PROCESS AND GET THE APPROVAL FROM CALTRANS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND ALSO, SINCE I HAVE YOU, SINCE YOU'RE TALKING, CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE RESTRICTION FOR TRUCKS? AND APPARENTLY OUR NEIGHBOR ROYA BASICALLY COMPLIED AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT, ON TRUCK RESTRICTIONS.

UH, THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

UM, UH, WE HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN CALTRANS AND BREA.

UM, UH, NOW WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED FROM BREA.

WE ARE FINALIZING THE, UH, THE TRUCK RESTRICTION STUDY, UH, WITH THAT LATEST INFORMATION OR DOCUMENTATION FROM BREA.

UH, WE ARE PACKAGING EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

UH, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

WE WILL SUBMIT THAT FINAL REPORT TO CALTRANS.

UH, THE LOCAL OFFICE AT CALTRANS WILL REVIEW IT ONCE YOU GIVE THE, OKAY.

THEY WILL SUBMIT THAT STUDY OVER TO CALTRANS HEADQUARTERS, UH, WHO WILL GIVE THE ULTIMATE, UH, APPROVAL.

UH, ONCE THAT'S DONE, UH, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, WORK WITH CALTRANS ON IMPLEMENTING SIGNAGE.

UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UH, ENFORCING TRUCK RESTRICTIONS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE YET.

UH, ONCE WE SUBMIT THAT REPORT TO CALTRANS, UM, UH, I'LL BE ASKING FOR, UH, A TIMELINE IN TERMS OF WHEN WE EXPECT TO GET, UH, A FINAL APPROVAL.

AND, UH, ONCE I DO SO, THEN, UH, NO, I'LL, I'LL SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE COUNCIL.

DANIEL, THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S FAIRLY EASY TO DO, RIGHT? BUT WE HAVE TWO CALTRAN DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TWO CITIES, STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THIS GUY HAS BEEN ON IT THE WHOLE TIME.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, MR. CITY MANAGER UPDATE ON COSTCO'S GAS STATION.

DO YOU, CAN YOU SORT OF GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND? SURE.

BUT I'LL CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN AND HAVE OUR, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHO'S DIRECTLY INVOLVED, UH, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT.

AP TWO.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, MR. MAYOR, COUNSEL, UH, COSTCO IS, UH, FULL SPEED AHEAD.

UH, THEY'VE GOT SOME ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH WITH US, UH, NEEDED TO DO A LOT, UH, LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT THAT'S BEING PROCESSED.

THEY'VE BEEN, UH, UH, NOT HESITATING TO, YOU KNOW, GET DOCUMENTS TO US.

WE'VE PROVIDED REVIEW COMMENTS, THEY'RE GETTING REVISIONS BACK TO US.

THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON THEIR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS SO THAT THEY CAN GET THOSE INTO US FOR PLAN CHECK, ALL WITH A GOAL, UH, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT FROM THEM, UH, TO BE INTO CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

SO, UH, THEY ARE NOT SITTING BACK, THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD.

SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, THAT INFORMATION.

THE LAST THING, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE SORT OF CONTROVERSIAL, BUT I'M GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE ANYWAY.

UM, THE CITY OF ONTARIO, THE CITY OF CHINO, THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE OVER EUCLID AVENUE, WHICH IS THE STATE ROUTE 83.

UM, WE HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT CARBON CANYON AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT IN CARBON CANYON.

AND AGAIN, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A STATE HIGHWAY, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A SAY SO ON TRAFFIC, UH, WITH HOUSING.

SO MY QUESTION IS, COULD WE AGEN THE POSSIBILITY OF US MAYBE TAKING OVER, UM, CARBON CANYON ROAD? AND I'M LOOKING AT IT FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO THERE.

ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON CARBON CANYON.

AND I KNOW PACIFIC HIGHWAY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE CONGESTION PRICING, WHICH MEANS THERE'S A TOLL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO THAT.

SO AGAIN, IF IT'S, IF IT'S OUR ROAD, MAYBE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAYBE AT LEAST START THIS CONVERSATION, AGEN IT, MAYBE GET SOME INFORMATION, TALK ABOUT IT.

IF IT MAKES SENSE.

MAYBE WE DO SOMETHING.

IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

SO THOSE ARE MY REPORTS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, BRIAN.

ALL RIGHT.

AS CYNTHIA HAD SAID, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE GRADUATES.

THANK YOU.

ALL FIVE OF US WERE AT IOLA AND CHINO HILLS.

CONGRATULATIONS THIS WEEK.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY SMART KIDS.

I KNOW.

GEEZ, WHAT WAS IT LAST NIGHT? THE VALEDICTORIAN HAD A 4.73 I, MY GOD, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WENT ABOVE A FOUR MINE CERTAINLY DIDN'T.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS VERY NICE TO SEE JUST ALL THESE WONDERFUL KIDS FROM OUR COMMUNITY MOVING ON, AND A NUMBER OF THEM GOING INTO THE MILITARY AND

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INTO OTHER PROFESSIONS.

SO GOD BLESS THOSE KIDS AND THEY'RE GONNA REPRESENT CHINO HILLS WELL.

AND ALSO TO TOUCH ON THAT, TOMORROW IS THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL FOR CHINO VALLEY UNIFIED.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE KIDDOS RUNNING AROUND TOWN.

SO BE CAREFUL OUT THERE, BOTH KIDS AND DRIVERS.

AND THEN A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, WE HAD A PRETTY EMOTIONAL SPEAKER COME AND TALK ABOUT FENTANYL.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS HOPING THAT THIS SESSION IN SACRAMENTO THAT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING, UM, JUST TO KEEP KIND OF AN UPDATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

YOU KNOW, SACRAMENTO, ONCE AGAIN, FAILED TO PRETTY MUCH DO ANYTHING TO REIGN IT IN.

EVEN SOMETHING AS INNOCUOUS AS, YOU KNOW, HEY, HAVE POLICE GIVE A WARNING TO DRUG DEALERS FOR FENTANYL, THAT HEY, YOU COULD BE LIABLE.

AND THAT DIDN'T EVEN FAIL OUT OF THE, NO, THAT DIDN'T EVEN PASS OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE.

BUT, UH, WHAT DID PASS OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE IS THEY'RE, THE STATE'S GOING TO BAN RED DYE NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS IN RED SKITTLES AND RED AND HOT TAMALES.

SO THERE YOU GO.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN, GARTH, YOU'LL LOVE THIS, THE STATE SENATE TODAY VOTED TO LEGALIZE PSYCHEDELICS.

SO WE'RE ALL IN GOOD HANDS IN CALIFORNIA.

SO PLEASE MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT TO YOUR LEGISLATORS AND ACTUALLY TELL THEM WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, NOW, I CAN'T TAKE MY, MY SKITTLES WITH, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TAKE MY SKITTLES, BUT PSYCHEDELICS ARE ON THE OR ON THE MENU.

SO, BUT GOOD NEWS, YOUR CASE OF HOT TAMALES ARRIVED FROM AMAZON TODAY.

YOU'RE GOOD.

I'VE GOT THE HOOKUP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING AFTER US DEALERS, SO .

THERE YOU GO.

SO JUST ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE ALL LIKE TO KIND OF BEAT UP ON SACRAMENTO AND IT'S BEEN RIGHTLY SO.

THIS IS, THESE ARE WHERE THEIR PRIORITIES ARE.

SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION WHEN YOU'RE VOTING IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH.

BRIAN ROLF FAST AS FAR AS THE LEGISLATURE, IT REALLY, I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, BUT IT DIDN'T EVEN COME OUTTA COMMITTEE.

YEAH.

PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, NEVER.

NONE OF THE FENTANYL BILLS PROP 47.

NOTHING CAME OUTTA THE COMMITTEE.

EVERYTHING WAS TIMING AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, AND THAT'S JUST DISGUSTING.

SO, SO WE NEED TO LOOK UP WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE.

YEAH, YEAH.

LOOK UP WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING.

THEY HAD, UH, THE, THE LEADER OF THE ASSEMBLY REPUBLICAN CAUCUS MADE A SPEECH CUZ THEY HONORED THE THREE, UH, LEGISLATORS FROM TENNESSEE THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, BOOTED OUT.

AND YEAH, THAT LEADER BASICALLY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THEIR ABILITY TO SPEAK, BUT IF I WERE TO SIT HERE AND COME ONTO THE BULL WITH A BULLHORN ONTO THE, THE, UH, THE FLOOR OF THE, UH, OF THE ASSEMBLY AND UH, AND START ACTING UP, YOU GUYS WOULD WERE THROWING ME OUT IN A HEARTBEAT.

YOU KNOW, CUZ HIS COMMUNITY REPRESENTED PARADISE, THAT TOWN THAT GOT BURNED DOWN UP IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.

AND HE SAID, YOU GUYS HAVEN'T EVEN DEALT WITH WIRE WILDFIRES.

SO, JUST SO I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX, BUT JUST PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

YEP.

SORRY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YOU GOT IT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SINCERITY AND NO, NO SARCASM, .

UM, YOU KNOW, LIKEWISE, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF THE, UH, AYALA AND CHINO HILLS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES, AND OF COURSE, ALL CHINO HILLS STUDENTS WHO SUCCESSFULLY PROMOTED TO A HIGHER GRADE.

UH, WE ALSO HEARD ONE SUCCESS STORY LAST NIGHT AT AYALA OR AT CHIN HILLS HIGH.

ONE STUDENT WAS GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL, WAS HAD, IS GRADUATING WITH THREE ASSOCIATE DEGREES, UH, WILL BE GOING TO COLLEGE NEXT SEMESTER.

WE'LL FINISH HIS BACHELOR'S DEGREE HIS FRESHMAN YEAR, AND HIS MASTER'S ON HIS SOPHOMORE YEAR.

SO WE HAVE SOME PRETTY BRIGHT STUDENTS WITHIN THIS, UH, CITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT KU, KUDOS TO A GREAT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC SCHOOL GETS SLAMMED A LOT.

UH, THERE MAY BE SOME LEGISLATION THAT'S BEING PUSHED DOWN THEIR THROATS THAT STINKS, BUT THEY'RE STILL DOING A GOOD JOB OF EDUCATING OUR KIDS.

SO, UH, THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.

UH, SPECIAL THANKS TO TOM HOWIE FROM THE FIREBOARD WHO IS BACK THERE.

UH, SORRY TO WAKE YOU UP, TOM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND THIS IS AN EARLY NIGHT FOR YOU, SO THAT'S GOOD.

AND, UH, LASTLY, UH, PLEASE KEEP ALL ACTIVE MILITARY AND VETERANS IN YOUR PRAYERS.

UH, THIS, THIS NEXT WEEKEND.

UH, IT'S NOT JUST A HOLIDAY, A THREE DAY WEEKEND WHERE YOU BARBECUE AND, AND HAVE A POOL PARTY.

UH, YOU KNOW, ALL GAVE SOME AND SOME GAVE ALL.

SO TO ALL THE VETERANS OUT THERE, MY FELLOW VETERANS, INCLUDING RONNIE AND THE, THE AUDIENCE THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

AND MAY YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE A, HOPEFULLY HEALTHY AND LONG LIFE.

AND THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE.

APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S IT.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I WAS GONNA MENTION THE GRADUATIONS, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED, ALTHOUGH IT WAS, IT'S A GREAT STATISTIC TO HEAR AT A, BUT THIS WASN'T THE FIRST TIME FOR AEL.

I HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT, HUNDRED PERCENT GRADUATION RATE.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THANKS FOR REMINDING ME A HUNDRED PERCENT.

THEY HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT GRADUATION

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RATE AGAIN, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING THAT, UM, THAT, THAT ALL WENT THROUGH.

UH, I WAS GONNA MENTION WELCOME TOM, BUT AGAIN, HE'S NODDED BACK OFF.

HE'S GONE.

SO, SO LET SHARON LET TOM KNOW THAT WE SAID HI TO HIM ONCE HE'S BACK WITH US.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST A COUPLE LITTLE REQUESTS.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE A SET A MAYBE SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME, A WORKSHOP GOALS AND STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP SOMETIME IN THE FALL.

BUT I WAS THINKING AFTER THE SUMMERTIME, UH, FIRST REQUEST, SECOND REQUEST, MAYBE WE CAN INVITE, UH, OUR NEW GROUP SWAG IN TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES PUBLICLY AND GIVE A REPORT ON WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UH, WHAT THEY'RE SENSING SO FAR IN TOWN.

AND ALSO, I KNOW THE SUBJECT'S COME UP SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, BUT, UM, CAN WE START LOOKING INTO A SIMILAR MARQUEE SIGN FOR THE SOUTH PART OF CHINO HILLS? I DON'T KNOW WHERE A GOOD LOCATION MIGHT BE AND, AND, AND ALL, BUT I, MAYBE IT'S TIME TO START CONSIDERING THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED.

PARDON? SOME DRIVE WOULD BE GOOD.

OKAY.

WE CAN PUT IT AT YOUR HOUSE.

, THERE'S A BOY SCOUT IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO, UH, IF WE CAN LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF FOR BUDGETING, MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR MARQUEE SIGNED SOMEWHERE.

IT'S, IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.

MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT LARGER.

MAYBE WE CAN TAKE THAT ONE AND MOVE IT AND, BUT YEAH, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A LITTLE SMALLER THAN I ANTICIPATED WHEN WE VOTED ON THE SIGN.

UH, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT MEANS OF COMMUNICATING SO, AND YES, WE HAVE A YOUNG SCOUT IN THE AUDIENCE.

WE LIKE TO EMBARRASS, NOT EMBARRASSED.

WE LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SCOUTS WHEN THEY'RE IN THE AUDIENCE.

ARE YOU HERE FOR A BADGE? UH, YES.

OKAY, COOL.

DO, DO YOU GET ANOTHER BADGE IF YOU COME SPEAK BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL? IS THERE ANOTHER POSSIBILITY? I DON'T THINK SO.

NO PUBLIC SPEAKING BADGE.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

YOU CAN KNOCK TOO OFF IN ONE EVENING IF YOU WANTED TO.

DON'T BACK.

COME ON HERE.

COME ON UP FOR A SECOND.

COME ON.

YEP.

IT'S TIME TO, UH, IS THIS MICROPHONE'S RIGHT HERE.

GO AHEAD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, UM, WHERE YOU FALL INTO THE SCOUTING MODE.

UH, IS IT, OH, HI.

SO MY NAME IS, UH, ZACH BILBY.

I'M ON, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TROOP TWO 20 OF CHINO HILLS AND I'M HERE FOR A, UH, A BADGE CALLED CITIZENSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO PAY ATTENTION AND LISTEN TO WHAT, UM, DISCUSSIONS ARE BEING MADE FROM ALL OF YOU.

AND I'VE PERSONALLY MYSELF, UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN BEING DISCUSSED WAS INTERESTING AND I'M GLAD THAT I'VE, UH, ATTENDED, COME HERE TO GET, UH, COME HERE TODAY TO LEARN.

SO, YEAH.

AND YOU'RE CHINO HILLS RESIDENT? YES.

OKAY.

I ATTENDED A, UH, A COURT OF HONOR COURT OF HONOR FOUR MONTHS AGO WHERE THE YOUNG MAN ACHIEVED EVERY BADGE POSSIBLE IN THE SCOUTING WORLD.

I BELIEVE I HAVEN'T, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE SCOUT IN OUR TROOP WHO IS CLOSE TO EARNING EVERY MERIT BADGE.

OKAY.

WELL, IT'S A GOAL SETTING FOR YOU ALL.

SO SPEAKING OF GOAL SETTING, MAYBE SEPTEMBER YOU CAN ATTEND OUR GOAL SETTING, UH, WORKSHOP , WHAT, WHAT RANK ARE YOU CURRENTLY I AM A STAR.

I'M WOR I'M ABOUT, I'D SAY ABOUT A MONTH AWAY FROM DOING MY, UH, SCOUT MASTER'S CONFERENCE FOR LIFE RANK.

AND, UH, SO FAR RIGHT NOW MY GOAL IS JUST TO FINISH THE EAGLE MERIT BADGES FOR THE RANK OF EAGLE.

OKAY.

WELL BEFORE YOU DID BEFORE 18, RIGHT? YEP.

AND YOUR DAD? YES, I AM.

SO HE TOOK SOME PHOTOS OF YOU HERE TO PROVE THAT YOU, UH, SPOKE BEFORE US.

SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET A SECOND, SECOND BADGE OUT OF THE DEAL.

WELL, YOU'RE ON VIDEO NOW, THE MAYOR OR ALL OF US.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE AGAIN, AS

[ ADJOURN IN MEMORIAM AND IN HOPE: Adjourn in tribute and honor of those who serve and have served in the Armed Forces at home and abroad. Their sacrifice and strength protect the goals and ideals that have made this Country great.]

USUAL.

ANYBODY THINK OF ANYTHING BEFORE WE ADJOURN? WE'RE GOOD? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, WE'RE ADJOURNED FOR THIS EVENING.