[ 6:00 P.M. - CONVENE MEETING / ROLL CALL]
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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE CHINO HILL CITY COUNCIL FOR NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025.ROLL CALL PLEASE, UH, FOR THE AUDIENCE'S INFORMATION.
VICE S MAYOR JOES IS ATTENDING REMOTELY VIA PHONE, SO WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE.
ALRIGHT, UH, MAYOR BENNETT HERE.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO STAND IN JUST A MOMENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER RAY MARQUEZ IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION BY FATHER PAUL ISAAC OF ST.
MAURICE COPTIC ORTHODOX CHURCH.
SO IF YOU'D REMAIN STANDING DURING ALL OF THAT, PLEASE IF YOU CAN PLEASE JOIN ME, PLEASE.
[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG]
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IS IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE CROW.[ INVOCATION: Father Paul Isaac, St. Maurice Coptic Orthodox Church]
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, ONE GOD.WE THANK YOU GOD WHO IS THE GIVER OF WISDOM, LIGHT AND PEACE FOR THIS MEETING AND FOR THE BLESSING OF LIVING AND SERVING IN THIS CITY.
WE REMEMBER THE WORDS OF SCRIPTURE IN THE BOOK OF JAMES CHAPTER ONE, VERSE FIVE, THAT IF ANY OF YOU LACKS WISDOM, LET HIM ASK OF GOD WHO GIVES TO ALL LIBERALLY AND WITHOUT REPROACH AND IT WILL BE GIVEN TO HIM.
WE ASK YOU NOW, OH LORD, TO GRANT WISDOM TO ALL WHO ARE GATHERED HERE, TO GUIDE THEIR MINDS AND HEARTS, TO SEEK WHAT IS GOOD, JUST AND PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT.
FILL THEIR DISCUSSIONS WITH HUMILITY AND UNDERSTANDING SO THAT EVERY DECISION MAY BRING PEACE AND BLESSING.
WE ASK YOU GOD TO BLESS THIS COUNCIL, OUR LEADERS, ALL MEMBERS, AND EVERY RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
FEARS, OH LORD, IS THE KINGDOM AND THE POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER.
[4. PROCLAMATION - Proclaiming November 24-30, 2025, as National Family Week]
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING NOVEMBER 24 THROUGH THE 30TH, 2025 AS NATIONAL FAMILY WEEK TO BE ACCEPTED BY COMMUNITY SERVICES COORDINATOR VANESSA BOSO, WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN THE MA THE MAYOR AT THE PODIUM.THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY PRO OR VERY BEEN, HUH? LET'S TRY AGAIN.
HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY PROUD OF OUR FAMILY ORIENTED COMMUNITY.
THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, WE HAVE WORKED TO OFFER PROGRAMS, CLASSES, AND EVENTS THAT SUPPORT FAMILIES SPENDING TIME TOGETHER.
OUR CELEBRATE THE FAMILY CONTEST, WHICH WILL BE ANNOUNCING THE WINNERS.
TONIGHT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF CELEBRATING FAMILIES IN OUR CITY.
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WE ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO CONSIDER JOINING IN MEANINGFUL ACTIVITIES THAT BRING CONNECTION AND TO FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION ON THE VALUE OF FAMILY.
WHETHER IT BE YOUR GIVEN OR CHOOSING FA CHOSEN FAMILY, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE COORDINATOR, VANESSA OSA, IS WITH US TONIGHT TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION.
VANESSA, BEFORE WE ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS OF THIS CONTEST, PLEASE TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT NATIONAL FAMILY WEEK AND HERE IS THE CERTIFICATE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.
UM, NATIONAL FAMILY WEEK IS A WONDERFUL REMINDER OF WHAT FAM OF WHAT TRULY MATTERS.
UM, IT'S A TIME TO PAUSE, TO CELEBRATE THE LOVE AND SUPPORT THAT FAMILIES BRING TO OUR LIVES.
EVERY DAY FAMILIES COME IN ALL SHAPES AND SIZES, BUT WHAT UNITES US IS THE CARE WE SHARE, THE LESSONS WE PASS ON, AND THE STRENGTH WE FIND IN ONE ANOTHER.
AS WE RECOGNIZE NATIONAL FAMILY WEEK, LET'S TAKE TIME TO BE PRESENT WITH OUR LOVED ONES, TO REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO MAY NEED EXTRA SUPPORT
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AND TO APPRECIATE THE SIMPLE MOMENTS THAT MAKE, UH, LIFE'S SO MEANINGFUL.WHEN OUR FAMILIES ARE STRONG, OUR COMMUNITIES ARE STRONGER AND THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH CELEBRATING THIS YEAR.
DO WE WANNA TAKE A PICTURE ON THIS? YES.
[5. RECOGNITION - Presentation of Celebrate the Family Poster / Essay Writing Contest Winners Kindergarten Skylar Mayoral Glenmeade Elementary School Carly Tang Loving Savior of the Hills Olivia Pan Rolling Ridge Elementary School Grades 1-3 Luminous Flores Oak Ridge Elementary School Stella Song Country Springs Elementary School Brittany Wong Acme Art Studio School Grades 4-6 Laura Wu Butterfield Ranch Elementary School Phoebe Fong C.T. Morris Elementary School Jospeh Zhong Country Springs Elementary School Grades 7-8 Aanya Yadav Canyon Hills Junior High School Brielle Huntley Loving Savior of the Hills Anya Feng Loving Savior of the Hills]
IS RECOGNITION PRESENTATION OF CELEBRATE THE FAMILY POSTER ESSAY WRITING CONTEST WINNERS AND VANESSA BOSO WILL ASSIST THE MAYOR WITH THIS.THIS YEAR WE HELD OUR 28TH ANNUAL CELEBRATE THE FAMILY CONTEST, AND THE THEME WAS ROOTED IN LOVE.
WE HAD OVER JUST OVER 650 ENTRIES SUBMITTED FROM STUDENTS IN KINDERGARTEN THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE WHO LIVE OR ATTEND SCHOOLS IN CHINO HILLS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR STAFF COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD THE DIFFICULT TASK OF REVIEWING ENTRIES AND SELECTING WINNERS.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE TWO SCHOOLS THAT HAD AMAZING PARTICIPATION FROM THEIR STUDENTS.
MS. WIL, MS. CASTILLO OF ROLLING RIDGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND PRINCIPAL OAXACA OF LOVING SAILORS SAVIOR, PLEASE, UH, JOIN ME UP HERE.
SHE KNOWS OAXACA IS SICK, AFTER ALL, SO SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE.
UH, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NOT HERE, LOVING SAVIOR OF THE HILLS HAD THE HIGHEST PARTICIPATION IN KINDERGARTEN, KINDERGARTEN, AND SEVENTH THROUGH EIGHTH GRADES.
ROLLING RIDGE ELEMENTARY HAD THE HIGHEST PARTICIPATION IN THE FIRST THROUGH THIRD AND FOURTH THROUGH SIXTH CATEGORIES FOR EACH CLASSROOM THAT HAD 100% PARTICIPATION.
THE TEACHER'S NAMES WERE PUT INTO A DRAWING TO WIN $100 GIFT CARD FROM HOBBY LOBBY.
AND THIS YEAR'S WINNER IS MS. CASTILLO FROM ROLLING RIDGE
AND DO YOU HAVE ALL OF THE AWARDS THERE? YES.
SO WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, THIS IS HER CERTIFICATE.
AND THEN THIS IS HER GIFT CARD.
AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW YOU MOTIVATE ALL THOSE KIDS TO PARTICIPATE.
OH, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH.
UM, PARTICIPATING IN CELEBRATE THE FAMILY CONTEST IS A TRADITION AT ROLLING RIDGE.
I HAVE A FIRST YEAR TEACHER, BUT I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE DISTRICT FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS NOW.
AND MY DAUGHTER HAS GROWN UP IN THIS DISTRICT AT ROLLING RIDGE AND I CAN TELL YOU ALL THE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE, UM, THE STUDENTS KNOW THAT IN THE FALL, CELEBRATE THE FAMILY COMES AND WE GET TO, WE GET EXCITED ABOUT THE THEME AND HOW WE CAN EXPRESS THAT THEME SO WE CAN BUILD A MINI LESSON AROUND IT.
AND IT ALSO HELPS US IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO BUILD THAT POSITIVE LEARNING COMMUNITY THAT HAS THOSE, THAT FOUNDATION OF FAMILY, OF A FAMILY UNIT IN THERE BECAUSE WE CAN NOT ONLY SEE AND APPRECIATE THE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS ALL OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE AND THEIR FAMILIES, BUT THEY CAN ALL BRING THAT INTO THE CLASSROOM SO WE CAN START CREATING OUR OWN LITTLE FAMILY IN THE CLASSROOM FOR THE YEAR.
SO WE REALLY DO LOVE CELEBRATE THE FAMILY CONTEST.
IT'S GREAT FOR INDIVIDUALS IN CLASSROOMS AND OUR SCHOOLWIDE COMMUNITY.
YOU WANNA HAVE HER SEPARATE PICTURES HERE? SURE.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE SCHOOLS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS YEAR'S CONTEST.
I'D LIKE TO ASK VANESSA TO HELP ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS OF THIS YEAR'S CONTEST AND SHARE THE GREAT PRIZES THEY WILL RECEIVE.
UM, SO TONIGHT THE TOTAL VALUE OF PRIZES THAT WE'RE GIVING OUT TO THE STUDENTS IS WORTH AROUND $2,000.
SO ALL OF OUR WINNERS TONIGHT ARE RECEIVING A $50 GIFT CARD, GIFT CARD TO AFTERS ICE CREAM.
AND THEN, UH, OUR THIRD PLACE WINNERS ARE GETTING A $50 SHOPS GIFT CARD.
OUR SECOND PLACE WINNERS ARE GETTING A HUNDRED DOLLARS SHOPS GIFT CARD AND OUR FIRST PLACE WINNERS ARE RECEIVING A $200 SHOPS GIFT CARD.
UM, SO THOSE WERE GIVEN OUT TO THE PARENTS BEFOREHAND, SO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR ENVELOPE 'CAUSE THAT HAS YOUR GIFT CARDS IN IT,
UM, AND BEFORE I ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS, UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO INVITE EVERYBODY OUT TO OUR, UH, CHINO HILLS COMMUNITY CENTER ACROSS THE STREET.
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UM, NEXT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH, UM, AT 6:00 PM WE HAVE TAKEN ALL THE STUDENTS' ARTWORK AND THEIR ESSAYS AND WE'VE BLOWN 'EM UP ONTO CANVASES AND LARGER PRINTS.AND, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE LINING THE HALLS OF OUR COMMUNITY CENTER UNTIL THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.
SO COME ON DOWN, YOU CAN MEET THE ARTISTS.
WE'VE ACTUALLY ALSO THIS YEAR NOMINATED A BUNCH OF, UM, HONORABLE MENTIONS, SO THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL STUDENTS THAT'LL HAVE THEIR ARTWORK HANGING UP.
UM, SO IT'LL BE EXCITING STUFF.
WE'LL HAVE SOME REFRESHMENTS AND STUFF, SO PLEASE COME JOIN US NEXT WEEK.
SO THEN AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THE WINNERS AND, UM, YOU WILL SEE THEIR ARTWORK DISPLAYED UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.
AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA, WHEN THE STUDENTS, WHEN YOU COME ON UP, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE FROM THE CITY.
AND BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED, WE ALSO GAVE THE STUDENTS, UM, SOME OTHER CERTIFICATES FROM CONGRESSWOMAN KIM, UM, SENATOR STO, ASSEMBLYMAN CHIN, AND COUNTY SUPERVISOR, HAGMAN'S OFFICE.
SO STUDENTS, LIKE I SAID, COME ON UP HERE, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU YOUR CERTIFICATE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU STAND AT THE FRONT, UM, TO TAKE A PHOTO.
PARENTS, LET US GET A COUPLE PICTURES AND THEN YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME ON UP AND GET PHOTOS AS WELL.
WE'RE GONNA START IN OUR KINDERGARTEN, KINDERGARTEN CATEGORY.
UM, IN THIRD PLACE WE HAVE OLIVIA PAN FROM ROLLING RIDGE ELEMENTARY.
I DUNNO IF OLIVIA'S HERE, I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE.
UM, IN SECOND PLACE WE HAVE CARLY TANG FROM LOVING SAVIOR.
OH, HERE, SHE'S
WE'RE GONNA DO A GROUP PICTURE.
A PHOTO, JUST ALL THE CHILDREN.
SO IN FIRST PLACE WE HAVE SKYLER MAYORAL FROM GLEN MEAD ELEMENTARY.
AND MOVING ON TO OUR FIRST THROUGH THIRD GRADE CATEGORY.
IN THIRD PLACE, WE HAVE BRITTANY WONG FROM, UH, ACME ART STUDIO.
IN SECOND PLACE WE HAVE STELLA SONG FROM COUNTRY SPRINGS ELEMENTARY THAT COULD BE OVER THE PARK.
AND IN FIRST PLACE WE HAVE LUMINOUS FLORIST FROM OAK RIDGE ELEMENTARY.
IN OUR FOURTH THROUGH SIXTH GRADE CATEGORY.
IN THIRD PLACE WE HAVE JOSEPH ZONG FROM COUNTRY SPRINGS ELEMENTARY.
IN SECOND PLACE WE HAVE PHOEBE FONG FROM CT MORRIS.
AND IN FIRST PLACE WE HAVE LAURA WU FROM BUTTERFIELD ELEMENTARY.
IN OUR SEVENTH THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE CATEGORY IN THIRD PLACE, WE HAVE ANYA FANG FROM LOVING SAVIOR ELEMENTARY, OR EXCUSE ME, LOVING SAVIOR OF THE HILLS
IN SECOND PLACE WE HAVE BRIELLE HUNTLEY ALSO FROM LOVING SAVIOR.
AND IN FIRST PLACE WE HAVE ANYA YADADA FROM CANYON HILLS JUNIOR HIGH.
WHAT NOW? ONE WITHOUT YOU AND THEN ONE.
SO ONE, EVERYONE LOOKING RIGHT HERE, STOP.
PARENTS, YOU CAN FEEL, FEEL FREE TO COME UP BEHIND THE PHOTOGRAPHER AND YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE.
WE'RE DOING THE FIRST ONE WITH JUST THE AWARD WINNERS, BUT EVERYONE WILL BE RIGHT
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HERE ON THE CAMERA.ANOTHER YEAR OR SO THEY'LL BE TALLER THAN ME, SO, OKAY.
EVERYONE LOOKING RIGHT HERE AT THE MIDDLE CAMERA? FIRST CAMERA FIRST.
CAN YOU LOOK AT YOUR PARENTS AND SHE'S YOUR MOM OR DAD, LOOK RIGHT AT THE CAMERA.
AND WE LOVE IT BECAUSE WE ALL SAY SHOP CHINO HILLS FIRST.
ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY CHANCE TO GET A PICTURE.
[6. PRESENTATION - Presentation of Military Banner to Alice Mikuljan for her military service]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION OF A MILITARY BANNER TO ALICE KUAN FOR HER MILITARY SERVICE.TO BE ACCEPTED BY ALICE'S FATHER, IGOR KUAN, WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN THE MAYOR AT THE PODIUM PLEASE? THERE HE IS.
DADDY, HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS EVENING.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GIVE THEM JUST A MOMENT TO CLEAR OUT.
WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU
DO YOU COORDINATE THAT? I THINK SO.
THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL OH TIME, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT WAS NICE AND QUIET FOR THIS TONIGHT.
IT IS WITH GREAT HONOR TO PRESENT A MILITARY RECOGNITION BANNER TO CHIN CHINO HILLS NATIVE ALICE KUAN, WHO SERVED IN THE US NAVY SINCE JANUARY 9TH, 2019.
ALTHOUGH ALICE ISN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING TONIGHT, WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE HER FATHER IGOR, WHO HAPPENS TO BE A VETERAN AS WELL, UH, TO ACCEPT THE RECOGNITION ON HER BEHALF.
ALICE'S MOTIVATION TO SERVE COMES FROM FOLLOWING IN HER FATHER'S FOOTSTEPS, DRIVEN BY A PASSION FOR AVIATION SPACE EXPLORATION, AND A DEEP DESIRE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
AMONG OUR MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS, HER MOST NOTABLE WAS REPAIRING OVER $5 MILLION WORTH OF AVIATION ELECTRONICS FOR SEAHAWK HELICOPTERS AND MAINTAINING OVER 200 PIECES OF COMMUNICATION SECURITY EQUIPMENT WITH 100% ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND CHINO HI HILLS, WE DEEPLY APPRECIATE OUR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES, SO IT'S VERY SPECIAL TO SEE OUR FATHER PROUDLY PRESENT HER REPRESENT HER TONIGHT.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, IGOR, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF CHINO HILLS COMMUNITY, AS A FELLOW VETERAN MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALICE FOR HER SERVICE AND DEDICATION, UH, FOR OUR NATION.
AND BEFORE I HAVE YOU SAY A FEW WORDS, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THIS CHALLENGE COIN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SHOW YOU, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CERTIFICATE HERE FROM, UH, THE SENATE STATE SENATOR KELLY SOTO.
AND SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THIS IS A REPLICA OF THE BANNER AND YOU HAVE WILL ALSO BE GETTING THE ORIGINAL OF THE BANNER.
AND LEMME GET THAT OUT ON THE CAMERA.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF YOUR DAUGHTER, PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT WELL, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I'M SURE VERY PROUD OF MY DAUGHTER.
I'M GLAD SHE, UH, MADE IT THROUGH ALL SIX YEARS.
SHE'S ACTUALLY IN THE RESERVES, UM, IN CHICAGO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE, UH, NAVY PAYING FOR REST OF HER EDUCATION.
SO, UM, SHE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO STAYING IN, UH, IN THE RESERVES AND MAYBE RETURNING TO, TO, UH, ACTIVE DUTY EVENTUALLY
WELL, ONCE SHE GETS A DEGREE, SHE'LL BECOME AN OFFICER TOO.
SO, UH, YEAH, WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD AND, UH, THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR SUPPORTING US AND, UH, DOING SUCH A WONDERFUL THING.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A PICTURE OF THIS.
GIVE YOU THAT CERTIFICATE AND THE ORIGINAL BANNER, WHICH CAME DOWN OFF THAT HOLD THAT IT WAS ON DROVE BY.
HUH? YOU WENT BY IT EVERY BY JUST TO,
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THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.WE'RE REALLY THRILLED THAT WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE, UH, WE DON'T HONOR OUR VETERANS ENOUGH.
SO IT'S SUCH BEAUTIFUL BANNERS TOO.
I SINCE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, IT'S VERY QUALIFIED.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
AND TELL HER CONTINUES SUCCESS IN HER CAREER.
[ PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER REPORT]
IS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER REPORT.AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR BENNETT, COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS.
JUST A FEW QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS PREPARING TO UPDATE SOME RESIDENTIAL TRASH COLLECTION ROUTES IN EARLY 2026.
MOST RESIDENTS WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY THESE UPDATES, AND ONLY ABOUT 25% OF RESIDENTS WILL SEE CHANGES TO THEIR REGULAR TRASH COLLECTION DAY.
WM WILL NOTIFY AFFECTED HOUSEHOLDS DIRECTLY AND NO CHANGES WILL TAKE EFFECT UNTIL AFTER THE HOLIDAYS.
IN UPCOMING EVENTS, THE CITY WILL HOST A FREE DOCUMENT SHREDDING EVENT FOR CHINO HILL'S RESIDENTS THIS SATURDAY AT THE SHOP'S OVERFLOW PARKING LOT.
THE EVENT WILL BE FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00 PM OR UNTIL THE TRUCKS REACH CAPACITY.
ATTENDEES MUST SHOW PROOF OF RESIDENCY AND ALL VEHICLES MUST ENTER FROM BOYS REPUBLICAN CITY CENTER DRIVE NEAR THE LIBRARY.
AND LASTLY, A NEW WINTER BROCHURE WAS MAILED TO HOUSEHOLDS LAST WEEK AND INCLUDES CITY NEWS AND INFORMATION ON WINTER CLASSES AND UPCOMING HOLIDAY EVENTS SUCH AS THE CITY'S TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY ON DECEMBER 6TH AND THE CHINO HILLS BOAT PRAYED ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH.
MORE DETAILS ON ALL THESE EVENTS CAN BE FOUND ONLINE@CHINOHILL.ORG SLASH EVENTS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PIO REPORT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF NICOLE? ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS ANNOUNCEMENT
[ ANNOUNCEMENT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION]
OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION.MARK, ANY ACTION? NO REPORTABLE ACTION TAKEN THIS EVENING.
OKAY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, AGENDA ITEMS.
[7. PUBLIC COMMENTS: At this time members of the public may address the City Council regarding any item appearing on the agenda, except that testimony on Public Hearing items must be provided during those hearings. Those persons wishing to address the City Council must complete and submit to the Deputy City Clerk a "Request to Speak" card available at the entrance to the City Council Chambers. Comments will be limited to a maximum of three minutes per speaker. The time allotted per person may vary depending on the total number of speaker cards received. This comment period will generally be limited to 30 minutes per meeting, so not all members of the public may have the opportunity to speak at every council meeting.]
JESSICA, WOULD YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THIS ITEM? MAYOR, IF I CAN TAKE A SECOND.UH, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, WHICH WAS PROPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION OF THE, UH, FUNDING, UH, ALLOCATED TO THE PINE AVENUE EXTENSION, UH, PROJECT, UH, CURRENTLY BEING MANAGED BY THE CITY OF CHINO.
UM, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION, I'M ASKING THAT WE, UH, POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING WHEN, UH, BRIAN JOES CAN BE HERE IN PERSON.
UH, HE'S CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING VIA PHONE, BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW HIM TO BETTER ENGAGE WITH THE COUNCIL.
ANY ILLUSTRATIONS WE MIGHT HAVE, UH, THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF KEEP, UH, OUR PAST PRACTICE OF WHEN AN ITEM COMES UP THAT'S, UH, A PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER HAS SHOWN A DIRECT INTEREST IN.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE COULD BE HERE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO'S, UH, PULLED A, UH, COMMENT CARD, UH, FOR THE ITEM.
IF THERE WAS ANYONE, WE COULD TAKE THAT COMMENT NOW OR THEY COULD COME BACK WHEN WE, UH, BRING THE ITEM BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS HERE FOR THAT TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG.
JESSICA, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK UNDER AGENDA ITEMS? YES.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM APPEARING ON THE AGENDA, EXCEPT THAT TESTIMONY ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS MUST BE PROVIDED DURING THOSE HEARINGS.
THOSE PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL MUST COMPLETE AND SUBMIT TO THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK ARRE REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD AVAILABLE AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS, ONE FOR ITEM DISCUSSION CALENDAR ITEM 20 AND ONE FOR DISCUSSION CALENDAR ITEM 22.
OKAY, SO THOSE ARE FOR DISCUSSION ITEMS. UH, WE WILL PASS FOR THEIR, UH, COMMENTS IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, I WILL MOVE ON TO CITY BUSINESS CONSENT
[ CONSENT CALENDAR (11 ITEMS) - All matters listed on the Consent Calendar are considered routine by the City Council and may be enacted by one motion in the form listed below. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless, before the City Council votes on the motion to adopt, Members of the City Council or staff request the matter to be removed from the Consent Calendar for separate action. Removed consent items will be discussed immediately after the adoption of the balance of the Consent Calendar.]
CALENDAR ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 18.DO WE HAVE ANY WISH TO PULL ANY OF THESE? RAY YOU'D LIKE TO PULL? ITEM NUMBER 14, PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? THEN I WILL, UH, CAN YOU HEAR US? BRIAN, ANY ITEMS THAT YOU NEED TO PULL? NO, MR. MAYOR.
AND I'LL MOVE THE ITEM OF THE ITEM.
AND WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MORAN? YES.
THEN, UH, FOR ITEM 14, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOTION CARRIE? SORRY, FIVE ZERO.
[14. Appropriate $2,962,922.32 from Existing Infrastructure Fee Fund for First Quarter Budget Review]
14, APPROPRIATE $2,962,922 32 CENTS FROM EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE FEE FUND FOR FIRST QUARTER BUDGET REVIEW.AND RAY, YOU'RE CONCERNED OR QUESTIONS? THANK, THANK YOU.
UM, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A BIG NUMBER OVER THE YEARS.
THIS IS THE QUESTION OF THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, DO YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THE IFS AS FAR AS THE BALANCE? I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD.
YEAH, I KNOW OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
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BAIER, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, SHE MAY HAVE AT HER FINGERTIPS WHERE THE CURRENT, UH, BALANCE IS.UM, YES, THE BALANCE ON OUR BOOKS IS 9.4 MILLION.
I KNOW IT WAS WAY UP THERE BEFORE AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU STAFF.
THANK YOU COUNSEL, FOR GETTING THAT NUMBER DOWN.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE MOTION IF I COULD.
ROLL CALL VOICE, BUT, OH YEAH.
JUST TO CLARIFY, DON'T TOUCH THIS AT ALL TONIGHT THEN.
SO WALK IN YOUR VOTE AND DO ROLL CALL.
[19. Authorize Amendment No. 3 to Agreement A00-14 with County of San Bernardino for transfer of property tax revenues, updating definition of “Specified Properties," expanding number of commercial and industrial zoned properties within City that County will transfer property tax revenue from, resulting in likely increase in property tax revenue to City effective June 30, 2026]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OR, UH, 19, WHICH IS UNDER DISCUSSION CALENDAR.AUTHORIZED AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE TO AGREEMENT ZERO A ZERO ZERO DASH 14 WITH COUNTY SAN BERNARDINO FOR TRANSFER OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES.
AND UH, BEN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, ROD ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AND WE DO HAVE A TRANSFER A, A POWERPOINT ON THIS.
SO WOULD YOU PLEASE MAKE YOUR PRE, UH, PRESENTATION, WAIT FOR THE POWERPOINT TO KICK OFF HERE.
GETTING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, I'LL BE PROVIDING A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON A PROPOSAL TO INCREASE OUR SHARE OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES FROM THE COUNTY.
IN 1999, SB 1 66 WAS PASSED AUTHORIZING ENC CHINO HILLS IN THE COUNTY TO NEGOTIATE A GREATER SHARE OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUES, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS MADE ON OR AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 1999.
THE CITY AND COUNTY ENTERED, ENTERED INTO THEIR INITIAL AGREEMENT ON FEBRUARY 8TH, 2000 IN THE AGREEMENT PROVIDED A 50 50 SPLIT OF ANY PROPERTY TAX REVENUES RELATED TO THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, UH, WAS AMENDED TWICE, FIRST IN 2004 TO PROVIDE THE CITY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN AGAIN, IN 2006 TO UPDATE ANY, OR TO UPDATE THE LIST OF APPRO APPLICABLE PROPERTIES THAT, UH, RECEIVED THOSE, UH, REVENUES.
UH, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THE CITY MANAGER'S BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY CAO ON UPDATING OUR PROPERTY TAX AGREEMENT.
AND THOSE NEGOTIATIONS OFFICIALLY KICKED OFF IN THE SUMMER OF 2024.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL NOW INCLUDE ALL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AS IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNTY ASSESSOR, WHICH WILL ADD APPROXIMATELY 70 PROPERTIES TO THE CALCULATION TO OUR LIST OF APPROPRIATE PROPERTIES OR APPLICABLE PROPERTIES.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCLUDE, UH, PROVISIONS THAT ARE 1 MILLION PLUS IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT OCCURRED ON OR AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 1999.
AND IT WILL NOW ALSO INCLUDE ALL NEW COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL STRUCTURES BUILT ON OR AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 1999.
UH, IN CONCLUSION, UM, IF APPROVED, THE COUNCIL IS ESTIMATED TO RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL 260 TO $300,000 ANNUALLY, BEGINNING WITH A 24 25 TRANSFER, UH, REVENUE PAYMENT.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
DID YOU SAY WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS? ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR COMMENTS? NOT ON THE SITE.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
I KNOW WE'VE BEEN PUSHING SOME TYPE OF YEAH.
RETURN, UH, OR ENHANCEMENT FOR, FOR SOME TIME AND I'M GLAD THAT, UH, THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO GIVE UP SOMETHING FOR US.
AND I'D LIKE TO JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT REAL VERY QUICKLY WHAT THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS.
UH, BECAUSE WHEN PROP 13 PASSED, THERE WAS AN ALLOCATION FORMULA THAT WENT INTO EFFECT CALLED AB EIGHT WHEN WENT INTO EFFECT IN 1978.
AND BASICALLY IT TOOK THE DOLLARS THAT WERE BEING CURRENTLY PAID AND ALLOCATED TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR CONTROLLER'S OFFICE TO GO OUT TO ALL OF THE VARIOUS TAXING ENTITIES WITHIN THE COUNTIES.
AND IT WAS BASED UPON ALL THAT EXISTED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
WE DIDN'T BECOME A CITY UNTIL DECEMBER 1ST, 1991.
AS A RESULT, WE WERE NEVER INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL ALLOCATION.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE ONLY BEEN RECEIVING ABOUT 4% OF OUR ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES PAID TO THE, BY EVERYONE IN THE CITY, INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND INDIVIDUALS.
SO, BECAUSE OF THIS INEQUITY, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A FLAW IN THE LEGISLATION.
NO ONE ANTICIPATED THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN, UH, YEARS TO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'D HAVE ADDITIONAL CITIES AND THERE'S ABOUT THREE CITIES, I BELIEVE IT WAS ADELANTO, RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND US THAT WERE ALL, UH, INCORPORATED SUBSEQUENT TO, UH, THAT, THAT PASSAGE BACK IN 1978.
SO WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING OUT SOMETHING WITH, AND WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY WITH THE COUNTY, UH, SUPERVISOR OFFICE AND THE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR
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AND OBJECT CONTROLLER TO TRY AND GET THIS PAYMENT TO WHERE WE WOULD GET AT LEAST SOME BENEFIT OF ALL OF THE BENEFICIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS WE'VE HAD FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE, UH, CITY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE EXPLANATION.
BUT RAY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? SURE.
NO, I JUST, UH, JUST TO COMMENT, UM, I KNOW WE HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND I THINK YOU WERE ON IT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND THEN ALSO OUR STAFF AND ALSO THE COUNTY APPRECIATE IT.
SURROUNDING CITIES GET ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 TO 17% MORE THAN WHAT WE GET AT 4%.
SO AGAIN, I TRULY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL 262,000.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
THIS REALLY IS A WINDFALL TO US BECAUSE ABSENT THIS EFFORT AND, AND THE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY'S, UH, OFF OFFERED TO DO THIS, UH, WE WOULDN'T GET ANYTHING ADDITIONAL FOR CHAIR.
SO, UH, MOVING, DO WE NEED, UH, YES, WE DO NEED A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
WE HAVE MOTION BY ROGERS SECOND BY MORAN LOCK IN YOUR VOTES.
AND, BUT WE'RE STILL WALKING VOTES.
AND LOCK IN YOUR VOTES, PLEASE.
[20. Provide direction on Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with County of San Bernardino and eight cities for proposed West End Navigation Center (WENC), by choosing from following options: (1) authorize City Manager to negotiate and execute MOU and any related documents with County to operate WENC, an emergency housing facility located at 11109 Jasmine Street in Fontana, to provide integrated support services to homeless individuals, including five beds dedicated to homeless individuals from City of Chino Hills; commit City to an annual payment of $200,000 for ten years, with first payment due upon execution of MOU and subsequent payments commencing in July 2026; appropriate $200,000 from General Fund for Fiscal Year 2025-26 payment; and restrict remaining $1.8 million in General Fund in Fiscal Year 2025-26 to cover payments; or (2) decline to enter into WENC MOU and direct City Manager to notify County of City’s decision not to participate]
20.UH, BEN, WOULD YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT THIS ITEM IS? THIS DISCUSSION ITEM IS, UH, YES, MAYOR.
UH, TONIGHT WE ARE SEEKING THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH A, UH, WHAT'S CALLED THE WEST END NAVIGATION CENTER.
UH, IN ESSENCE, IT'S A HOMELESS RESOURCE CENTER THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE COUNTY.
I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF HOW WE CAME TO, UH, THIS AGREEMENT, UH, THE PROPOSED MOU, UH, BUT, UH, AND THEN I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.
BUT I DO NEED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF, UH, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HOUSING FOR THE COUNTY, UH, CARRIE HARMON IN THE BUILDING.
IF, UH, WE HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE CENTER WOULD BE OPERATED, SHE MAY BE ABLE TO ADD, UH, UH, TO THE MATERIAL THAT I HAVE, UH, FOR YOU TONIGHT.
UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, UH, THIS ACTUALLY STARTED AS A, UH, A CONVERSATION BETWEEN WHAT, UH, A COLLOQUIALLY TERMED THE WEST END CITIES.
UH, AND IT STARTED AT A MEETING OF MAYORS AND STAFF LOOKING FOR A WAY TO, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THE HOMELESS CONCERNS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES WERE HAVING, BUT LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL SOLUTION.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYONE WAS FOLLOWING THE BEST PRACTICES THAT THEY WEREN'T, UH, UH, DUPLICATING EFFORTS.
AND THE CONCEPT CAME FORWARD THAT, UH, INVOLVING THE COUNTY TO HELP WITH, UH, HOMELESS, UH, UH, UH, SHELTERING NEEDS, UH, WAS, WAS A VALUABLE KIND OF, UH, JOINT EFFORT.
AND SO THE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, UH, HAS PROPOSED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A WESTIN REGIONAL NAVIGATION CENTER.
UH, AND WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE ABOUT, UH, WHAT, HOW THAT'S STRUCTURED.
BUT AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, THE CITY OF FONTANA WAS ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR A, UH, HOMELESS CENT, UH, UH, SERVICES SHELTER CENTER.
UH, UH, AND SO, UH, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE, THE MOVING FORWARD OF THIS PROPOSAL, UH, THE COUNTY, UH, PARTNERED WITH FONTANA AND THE PROPOSED, UH, NAVIGATION CENTER WOULD BE IN THE CITY OF FONTANA, BUT SERVING MULTIPLE CITIES ON THE WEST END OF THE COUNTY.
UH, THE GOAL OF THIS WOULD BE TO PROVIDE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WITH NOT JUST HOUSING RESOURCES, BUT ALSO OTHER SERVICES TO SUPPORT, UH, UH, THEIR GROWTH DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, UH, UH, UH, RE TRANSITION FROM THE STREETS INTO THE TRADITIONAL HOUSING ENVIRONMENTS.
UH, BEHAVIORAL SERVICES AND OTHER RESOURCES WOULD BE, UH, AVAILABLE, UH, AT THE, UH, NAVIGATION CENTER.
UH, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THIS CENTER UP AND OPERATIONAL IN DECEMBER OF 2026.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS FACILITY, UH, AS AN OVERVIEW, UH, IT WOULD PROVIDE EMERGENCY SHELTER SERVICES, BUT ALSO RECUPERATIVE CARE, UH, SOBERING CENTER SERVICES, UH, UH, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS AT THE FACILITY.
AND THEN A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN THAT WOULD PROVIDE MEALS, UH, FOR, UH, THOSE, UH, HOUSED THERE.
UH, ONSITE SERVICES WOULD BE BOTH BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, UH, UH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, UM, UH, TRANSITIONAL SERVICES AND, UH, EMPLOYMENT,
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UH, MEALS, CASE MANAGEMENT.AND SO THIS IS TYPICALLY REFERRED TO AS WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST A PLACE FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE THE STREETS AND BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS.
BUT ANY SUPPORTING SERVICES THAT THEY MAY NEED, UH, WOULD BE PROVIDED, UH, AT THIS LOCATION AS WELL.
UH, THERE WOULD BE A COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM, UH, WHEREBY THE CITIES WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY AS THE OPERATOR TO, UH, UH, SPONSOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO COME TO, UH, THE FACILITY.
THEY WOULD NOT WALK IN, UH, FROM THE STREETS.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
HAVING LOOKED AT OTHER SIMILAR REGIONAL, UH, UH, PROPOSALS, THERE'S ALWAYS A WORRY THAT IF YOU HAVE A, A, A SHELTER, UH, OR A NAVIGATION CENTER IN YOUR, UH, CITY, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DRAW, UH, MORE HOMELESS, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAN YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, NATURALLY.
AND SO, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN MANAGE THAT, UH, FROM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, UH, FOR THE CITY OF FONTANA IS THAT THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS PERSON WOULD BE RECOMMENDED BY EITHER OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR OUR, UH, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UH, UH, UH, STAFF.
UH, THEY WOULD BE PLACED IN THE FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE JUST WALKING UP, UH, UH, UH, WITHOUT, LET'S CALL IT A REFERRAL, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT, UH, ALSO MEANS THOUGH, IF THE PERSON, UH, EXITS THE FACILITY THAT THEY'RE, UH, GOING TO BE, UH, UH, TRANSPORTED BACK TO THE CITY WHERE THEY, UH, ORIGINATED THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY WOULD BE, UH, APPROXIMATELY 200 BEDS WITH 100 OF THOSE BEDS BEING FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER SERVICES.
AND, UH, 100 FOR RECU RECUPERATIVE MEDICAL CARE.
UH, IT'D BE A 24 7, UH, UH, OPERATION.
UH, AND IT WOULD TAKE, UH, UH, OTHER NEEDS SUCH AS THEIR PETS OR PARTNERS, UH, AND PERSONAL BELONGINGS, UH, INTO, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, THE, UH, NAVIGATION CENTER AND HOUSING.
UM, THE COUNTY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT AND GENERAL OVERSIGHT.
UH, NOT ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES.
IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY, UH, THE, UH, TYPICAL MODEL.
AND WHAT WE EXPECT HERE IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A PART PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WHEREBY, UH, THERE'D BE A FACILITY OPERATOR, UH, NOT NECESSARILY COUNTY STAFF DOING THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, BUT THE FACILITY OPERATOR WOULD BE OVERSEEN BY, UH, COUNTY STAFF, UH, ALONG WITH ALL OF THE RECORD KEEPING AND AUDITS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM.
THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE THAT LEAD, UH, BUT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY WOULD BE, UH, OVERSEEING AND OPERATING, THERE WOULD BE, ACCORDING TO THE MOU AS PROPOSED, UH, UH, INVOLVEMENT FROM THE CITY, THERE WOULD BE AN, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE COMPRISED OF LEADERSHIP, UH, EITHER STAFF, LIKE A CITY MANAGER OR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, OR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, UH, GUIDING, UH, THE OPERATIONS.
AND THEN MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, UM, UH, COMPRISE OF STAFF, UH, WITH KNOWLEDGE OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION, ALSO SERVING TO HELP, UH, GUIDE, UH, THE COUNTY AND THE OPERATIONS.
WHAT'S WHAT'S RELEVANT TO THIS DISCUSSION, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY IS THE COST BEING PROPOSED.
AND SO THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS YOU ALL OF THE PARTNER AGENCIES THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE NAVIGATION CENTER, UH, WITH THE COUNTY BEING LISTED UPFRONT.
UH, AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS, EACH CITY AND THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR CONTRIBUTING TOWARD THE ROUGHLY $3 MILLION OF OPERATION COSTS PER YEAR.
UH, THE COUNTY, UH, IS FUNDING THE, UH, UH, BUILD OUT OF THE FACILITY, AND THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE A CONTRIBUTION TOWARD THE ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS.
UH, JUST WALKING THROUGH THIS, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE $475,000 CONTRIBUTED, UH, ANNUALLY, UH, FOR THE, THE OPERATIONS.
UH, AND TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW MANY, UH, UH, INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE SERVED BY THAT.
WE ARE ALSO LISTING THE 2025 POINT IN TIME COUNT SO THAT WE CAN ALMOST COMPARE COMMUNITIES, UH, BASED ON, UH, UH, THE NEED IDENTIFIED IN EACH.
SO WITH THE COUNTY, THERE'S $475,000, UH, AND 3,800 OR SO, UH, IDENTIFIED, UH, UH, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WITH THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, UH, FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR IN JANUARY.
UH, BY CONTRAST, THE CITY OF CHINO WOULD BE, UH, MAKING A COMMITMENT FOR A $200,000 ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION.
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AND, UH, FOR THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE, UH, ROUGHLY FIVE BEDS.UH, UH, AND THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO IDENTIFY AVAILABLE RESOURCES, BUT I HAVE TO MAKE THE, THE POINT THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PAYING FOR THE BEDS, IT'S JUST KIND OF A GUARANTEE OF BEDS.
AND, AND THAT'LL, UH, BECOME A LITTLE MORE CLEAR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT OUR NEEDS.
BUT LOOKING AT CHINO, THEIR POINT IN TIME COUNT HAD 31, UH, UH, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFIED.
WHEREAS HERE IN CHINO HILLS, OUR CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE $200,000 TOWARD THE OPERATING COSTS.
WE'D GET FIVE BEDS GUARANTEED.
UH, BUT OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT, UH, UH, THIS YEAR WAS, UH, THREE INDIVIDUALS.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK BACK FOR OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S RANGED FROM TWO TO NINE.
UH, WE KNOW, UH, AND FOR THE PUBLIC, THE PROCESS FOR A POINT IN TIME COUNT IS ON A GIVEN DAY.
IN CHINO HILLS, WE HAVE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM.
WE HAVE, UH, OUR, UH, SOCIAL WORK ACTION GROUP, WHICH DOES DAILY, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY LOOK IN THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND MAKE CONTACT WITH PEOPLE TO GET US, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THEIR, UH, HOUSING SITUATION.
AND SO, UM, ALL CITIES DO SOME VERSION OF THAT IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY THEIR HOMELESS POPULATION.
WE ARE ABSOLUTELY AWARE THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE, UH, UH, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS.
BUT THIS IS A COMMON MEASURE THAT CITIES UNDERTAKE IN ORDER TO GET THE PULSE, I'LL CALL IT, OF THEIR HOMELESS POPULATION.
UH, AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE FONTANA, UH, WHO HAS A MILLION DOLLAR, UH, CONTRIBUTION, UH, UH, UH, EARMARKED FOR THIS PROGRAM, UH, THEIR HOMELESS POPULATION IS, UH, DRAMATICALLY HIGHER THAN OURS AT 2 71, UH, MONTCLAIR, WHO'S ALSO LOOKING TO PARTICIPATE WITH $250,000 CONTRIBUTION ANNUALLY.
UH, THEIR BED COUNT WOULD BE SEVEN.
UH, BUT THEIR POINT IN TIME COUNT FOR THIS YEAR WAS 38.
UH, THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT ONTARIO, ONTARIO HAS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE AS FAR AS THE MOU, UH, AS, UH, DESIGNED IS THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THEIR OWN SEPARATE CITY HOMELESS, UH, UH, UH, NAVIGATION CENTER OR SHELTER.
AND SO THEY'RE COMMITTING TO PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING AT A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT.
WHEREAS THE FULL AGREEMENT, A COMMITMENT FOR ALL THE OTHER CITIES IS 10.
AND I THINK THIS IS A CONCESSION THAT, UH, CURRENTLY THE, UH, CITY OF ONTARIO IS WILLING TO BE PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST THREE YEARS.
UH, UH, BUT THEY MAY THEN, UH, MANAGE THEIR OWN HOMELESS OPERATIONS OUT OF A CITY OWNED SHELTER, BEN.
BUT IT, YES, SIR BEN, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO, TO ASK THIS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THERE'S GROSS INEQUITY AS FAR AS WE, OUR CURRENT HOMELESS COUNT COMPARED TO OTHERS, AND GIVEN E RELATIVELY EQUAL, UH, COMP OR, UH, PROPOSED COST EACH YEAR, UH, SEEMS TO BE OFF.
BUT, UH, I, I THINK THAT THE OTHER THING IS, UH, ONTARIO, IF THEY'RE ONLY IN FOR THREE YEARS, IS THERE A CHANCE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, SINCE THEY'RE A LOT CLOSER, UH, THAT WE COULD, UM, JOIN WITH THEM ON THEIR, THEIR PROGRAM? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, FONTANA'S A LONG WAYS AWAY.
WE'VE HAD MEETINGS, SEVERAL MEETINGS FOR THE LAST, OVER THE LAST YEAR WITH THE WEST END MAYOR'S GROUP THAT MEETS QUARTERLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
OUR CITY POLICY HAS ALWAYS BEEN, WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD A HUGE HOMELESS POSS, YOU KNOW, ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY, BUT ONE IS TOO MANY.
AND WE ALWAYS HAVE WANTED TO BE PROACTIVE TO DEAL WITH THIS BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.
BECAUSE WITH THINGS CHANGING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POTENTIAL THAT COULD GET, UH, YOU KNOW, WORSE AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
YOU WANNA GIVE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION, SO, OR, YOU KNOW, EXPLANATION SO WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHY WE'RE INVOLVED RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE LONG TERM MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UH, I GUESS THE, THE WAY I WOULD DESCRIBE IT IS, UM, MANY CITIES BASED ON THEIR NEED, UH, MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT, UH, UH, MANAGING A, A HOMELESS SHELTER, UH, IS IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO DO IT LOCALLY.
UH, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF POMONA NEXT DOOR HAS THEIR OWN, UH, HOMELESS, UH, UH, SHELTER.
THEY DON'T, UH, HAVE A REGIONAL SOLUTION LIKE THIS.
WE DID APPROACH THIS, UH, THE CITY OF POMONA SHORTLY AFTER THEY OPENED THEIR FACILITY TO ASK IF, BECAUSE OUR POPULATION IS SO LOW, COULD WE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, BUY A BED SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR SHELTER? UH, AND WE'VE RECENTLY REACHED OUT AGAIN AND THEY DON'T, UH, UH, HAVE AN INTEREST IN, UH, IN PARTNERING
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WITH, WITH A CITY LIKE US.TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, UH, ONTARIO, WE DID RAISE THAT QUESTION AS WELL, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, HEY, WE KNOW YOU'RE GONNA, UH, UH, DESIGN AND, AND IMPLEMENT YOUR OWN.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS, IS THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT COUNCIL, UH, MAKING A DETERMINATION THAT THEY NEED TO SERVE THEIR LOCAL POPULATION, WE DIDN'T GET IMMEDIATE RESPONSE THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT, AT THIS REGIONAL SOLUTION, BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT, UH, ONTARIO WOULDN'T, UH, UH, USE ALL OF THEIR FACILITY FOR THEIR, UH, UH, POPULATION.
WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
UH, BUT AT THIS TIME, SINCE IT'S NOT BUILT YET, WE'VE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS.
BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY COMMITMENTS OR, OR ANY, UH, UH, ACCEPTANCE OF THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPOSAL.
WELL, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF VOICE THAT PUBLICLY, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS WERE GIVEN.
THIS IS KINDA LIKE THE, THE ONLY RULE OF SENSIBLE, UH, ALTERNATIVE FOR US, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE OUR OWN FACILITY BECAUSE, UH, THE NEED FOR, UM, IT, IT, THERE IS NO, THE, THE NEED THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE ISN'T SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO HAVE TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT OF HAVING OUR OWN FACILITY IN, IN THE TOWN OR IN OUR CITY.
SO, NO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.
UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT CONTRIBUTIONS AND THEN LOOK AT THE BEDS AND TRY TO KIND OF MAKE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, BECAUSE THE POINT IN TIME COUNT GIVES US SOME SENSE OF THE DEMAND FOR BED SPACE.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S, IT'S NOT A COMPLETE REFLECTION.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT MONTCLAIR'S 38 AND HOUR THREE, YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY THEY HAVE 10 TIMES THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
BUT WE HAD TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING AS WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT OUR LIKELY DEMAND WOULD BE FOR, UH, FOR, UH, THIS, UH, ITEM.
UH, JUST TO KEEP QUICKLY GO THROUGH WITH ONTARIO BEING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AT TWO 50, THEN WE GET INTO RANCHO CUCAMONGA, WHO'S LOOKING TO, UH, CONTRIBUTE $300,000 A YEAR FOR THEIR 113, UH, IDENTIFIED HOMELESS POPULATION.
RIALTO AT TWO 50, UH, HAS ROUGHLY 52 IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
AND THEN UPLAND, WHO'S ALSO LOOKING AT TWO 50, HAS 33.
SO THIS WAS A WAY FOR US TO ILLUSTRATE THE VARIOUS CONTRIBUTIONS MADE, UH, PER CITY, UH, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF VARIANCE, UH, OF, UH, AS FAR AS THE DEMAND BASED ON THEIR HOMELESS POPULATION.
UH, THE TERMS OF THE MOU, UH, UH, ARE DESIGNED TO GET, UH, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF, UH, CERTAINTY FOR THE COUNTY ON WHO'S GONNA BE IN THE AG, UH, IN, UH, THE AGREEMENT WHO'S GOING TO BE BRINGING, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO THE SHELTER.
AND SO IT'S CURRENTLY STRUCTURED TO BE A 10 YEAR AGREEMENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION, AS I POINTED OUT FOR ONTARIO, UH, WITH A FIVE YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
UH, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, UH, IF A, UH, UH, THE BODY OF THE GROUP, SO THE PARTNER AGENCIES, LET'S CALL IT, UH, DETERMINE THAT THE AGREEMENT, UH, THAT THE SHELTER ISN'T WORKING AND THEY WANT TO, UH, DISSOLVE THE AGREEMENT, UH, IT TAKES AT LEAST SIX, UH, OF THE CITY, UH, PARTNERS.
SO, UM, A, UH, MAJORITY OF, OF THE AGENCIES IN ORDER TO DISSOLVE THE MOU.
UH, AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS DESIGNED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A, UH, UNANIMOUS DECISION.
BUT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY, AND I THINK WITH ADVOCACY FROM SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS WASN'T WORKING, NO ONE CITY COULD HOLD UP, UH, A DECISION.
AND SO THIS IS, UH, A LITTLE MORE REASONABLE THAT A MAJORITY OF THE AGENCIES WOULD HAVE TO DISSOLVE THE, THE AGREEMENT.
NOW, THERE IS A MECHANISM FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL PARTY TO LEAVE.
UH, SO LIKE, LET'S SAY THAT AFTER A COUPLE YEARS, THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS DECIDED THAT, UH, WE WEREN'T SENDING ENOUGH TO WARRANT, UH, OUR PARTICIPATION.
THE CHALLENGE IS, IS AS THE MOU IS IS DESIGNED, UH, OUR 10 YEAR, UH, AGREEMENT WOULD PUT US, UH, COMMITTED FOR $200,000 PER YEAR FOR THE FULL 10 YEARS IF WE WANTED TO EXIT, THE TERMINATION PENALTY WOULD BE EQUAL TO THE CONTRIBUTION WE SIGNED UP FOR.
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A WAY FOR US TO STOP PAYING EARLY IF WE WANTED TO LEAVE.
AS THE MOU IS CURRENTLY, UH, DESIGNED, UH, IN THE NINTH YEAR, IF WE DETERMINED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO RE-UP FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, UH, WE COULD THEN GIVE NOTICE THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA PARTICIPATE PAST THE INITIAL 10 YEARS.
UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, IT'S JUST SAFE TO, TO KIND OF THINK OF THIS AS
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ONCE WE'RE IN THIS AGREEMENT, WE'RE IN IT FOR THE FULL 10 YEARS AT $200,000 A YEAR, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE OPT OUT, THERE'S A TERMINATION PENALTY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY.AND SO, UH, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY, WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THAT A REGIONAL SOLUTION IS VALUABLE TO ALL THE PARTIES, UH, FOR OUR PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES, IT'S A HIGH COST, UH, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT PER PERSON, OR IF YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NUMBER OF BEDS WE'RE LIKELY TO USE, UH, STAFF, MYSELF INCLUDED, HAD CONCERNS, UH, THAT WERE REALLY GOING TO STRUGGLE WITH USING THE FULL CAPACITY THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO US, UH, OUR LOW POPULATION.
AND THE FACT THAT THIS, UH, UH, CENTER IS GONNA BE LOCATED IN FONTANA, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE.
UH, AND THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH OUR SWAG TEAM AND POLICE OFFICERS, BOTH IN OUR TOWN AND OTHERS, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS YOU GOTTA CATCH THE PERSON WHEN THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE SERVICES.
AND THAT BUFFER OF TIME, UH, IT WOULD TAKE TO TRANSPORT SOMEONE TO FONTANA, WE THINK WOULD BE A CHALLENGE, UH, FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO ACCEPT SERVICES.
UM, UH, WE ASKED IF THERE WERE OTHER WAYS, UH, FOR US TO KIND OF, UH, LET'S CALL IT MONETIZE THE AVAILABLE BEDS.
COULD WE, UH, UH, ONLY PAY FOR THE BEDS WE'RE USING? AND WHILE THERE IS A GUARANTEE OF BEDS, THE COUNTY SEES THE CONTRIBUTION MORE AS THE COST TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE 200,000 DIVIDED BY FIVE MEANS WE'RE PAYING 40,000 A BED.
IT IS JUST KIND OF ONE OF THE, THE CONDITIONS AND AND TERMS. UH, SO OUR CHALLENGE AND CONCERN IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE 10 YEARS AND THE PENALTY, WE ARE BASICALLY LOOKING AT A $2 MILLION COMMITMENT IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO, UH, UH, JOIN, UH, IN THIS, UH, AS CURRENTLY STRUCTURED.
AND SO, UH, OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATION, OR THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION, POTENTIALLY FROM THE COUNCIL, IS THAT, UH, UH, YOU COULD AUTHORIZE ME AS THE CITY MANAGER, UH, TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE THE TERMS, MAYBE LOOK AT, UH, REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN THE MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION OF 200,000, UH, OR AT LEAST LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR A, UH, SHORTER MOU TERM, UH, THAT WOULD MAKE IT, UH, MORE VIABLE FOR US.
THE COMMITMENT ON A LOWER NUMBER OF YEARS WOULD BE, UH, UH, UH, LESS OF A COMMITMENT.
IF THIS DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR US, UH, IT WOULD GIVE THE COUNTY SOME ASSURANCES THAT WE WOULD BE IN MUCH LIKE, UH, THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ONTARIO OR THE COUNCIL COULD SAY THAT THIS ISN'T A PROGRAM THAT YOU WANT TO PURSUE ANY FURTHER.
YOU COULD AUTHORIZE ME TO LET THE COUNTY KNOW, UH, UH, THAT, UH, IT'S NOT A PROGRAM THAT THAT FITS OUR NEEDS.
SO, UH, AND THERE COULD BE SOME OTHER DIRECTION FROM THE COUNTY, UH, HERE, BUT, UH, WE WANTED TO KIND OF TEE UP HERE'S WHAT THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE.
HERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE MOU, AS I POINTED OUT.
UH, UH, CARRIE HARMON IS IN THE, UH, UH, AUDIENCE.
SHE COULD GIVE MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW THE, UH, FACILITY WOULD OPERATE.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, SPEAKERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR WE CAN CONTINUE THE, THE DISCUSSIONS.
DO WE WANNA ASK QUESTIONS? NOW? LET'S GO TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS, THE PUBLIC, AND THEN WE'LL, YEAH, I, I THINK WHEN WE CALL THE PUBLIC UP HERE, ONE THING THAT I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, THOUGH, THIS IS PROVIDING NOT ONLY EMERGENCY SHELTER SERVICES, BUT RECUPERATIVE CARE, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE IT REALLY HELP PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE PROVIDING 'EM A BED.
UH, THEY WILL BE PUTTING PROGRAMS TO TRY AND HELP THEM WITH WHATEVER ISSUES THEY'RE HAVING.
AND ALSO EVEN A SOBERING SERVICES.
SO THERE'S, IN THE BUILT INTO THE PROGRAM ARE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY GONNA HELP THAT PERSON THAT MIGHT BE ON THE STREETS FOR WHATEVER REASON.
IT'S NOT JUST GONNA PROVIDE 'EM A BED AND KICK 'EM, KICK 'EM TO THE CURB.
CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR COMMENT? YEAH, SURE.
UM, REGARDING PROP 36 AND CARE COURT, UM, I WAS TOLD BY A COUPLE SUPERVISORS THAT BASICALLY WE SORT OF NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO MANDATE THEM TO EITHER GET TREATMENT OR GO TO MAYBE TO DO TIME.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT, IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED THIS? 'CAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA TELL US WE DON'T NEED HELP, BUT IF WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO, THEN IT'S GONNA BE MANDATED.
YEAH, I, I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE INTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT PROP 36 CARE COURT, LAURA'S LAW.
UH, I THINK THAT THE, THE KEY IS THAT THIS WOULD BE A, UH, A TOOL TO FACILITATE, UH, MORE AGGRESSIVELY PUSHING PEOPLE, UH, INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, A, AN ENVIRONMENT FOR RECOVERY.
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UH, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE SEEING IS YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS, BUT, UH, UH, AT ONE TIME YOU HAD TO HAVE HOUSING IN ORDER TO EVEN ENFORCE, UH, SOME OF THE ANTI CAMPING LAWS.WE, WE HAVE MORE LATITUDE THERE, BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, THIS WOULD BE A TOOL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THINGS LIKE PROP 36.
AND JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
I KNOW SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY HAS A COG, NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET, GET GRANT MONEY.
COULD THAT MONEY BE USED TO OFFSET OUR, SOME OF OUR EXPENSES? NO, THAT'S A GREAT, UH, POINT.
IN ADDITION TO THE COG COMMITMENT TO HELP SUPPORT HOMELESS, UH, ACTIVITY, THE COUNTY HAS MADE ASSURANCES, AND IT'S IN THE AGREEMENT THAT, UH, AS THEY SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WHETHER IT'S FROM STATE OR OR FEDERAL DOLLARS TOWARD THE OPERATIONS, THAT IT WOULD DEFER THE COST, UH, OF THE CITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING.
SO WE COULD SEE OUR COSTS LOWERED, UH, BY OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS.
THANK MR. MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS UNTIL I, ALRIGHT, SO AT THIS POINT, WHO, WHO'S OUR SPECIAL, UH, JOANNE JANIS AND YES, SHE'S SPECIAL.
AND JOANNE, ALL I CAN SAY IS I AM SO SORRY THAT IT'S TAKEN ALL THIS TIME AND IT WASN'T TIMELY ENOUGH.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL STAFF.
UM, I DID A CRASH COURSE,
AND ANYHOW, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS REGARDING IT.
UH, AND RAY, YOU'D ADDRESS SOME OF THESE AND THEN YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THESE.
WILL THESE BEDS BE USED AS PART OF PROP 36 MANDATED PORTION? I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE IN WRITING.
DO WE HAVE THAT IN WRITING? UM, ALSO IT ON PAGE 24, UH, 1 94, IT REFERS TO WHO IS REFERRING AGENCIES, WHO ARE THOSE REFERRING AGENCIES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE FACILITY? UM, CHIN HILLS COSTS 200,000, 200,000 FOR FIVE BEDS WHEN SWAG HASN'T HAD ANY.
THIS IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM WHEN SWAG HASN'T HAD ANY INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CITY EXCEPT A SHELTER BED.
I KNOW I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN COURT WITH AARON WHEN WE'VE GONE FOR CODY'S COURT.
WE HAVE AT LEAST AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE POUND POINT IN TIME COUNT.
BUT WHY SO MUCH MONEY FOR US
BUT WILL THE OTHER CITIES NEED THESE BEDS? A 10 YEAR COMMITMENT IS A BIG, YOU KNOW, A BIG, UH, NEGOTIATION AND THE REVIEW PERIOD, UH, PENALTY NOT AN OPTION.
THIS IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM AND A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS ARE EITHER SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR MENTAL ILLNESS.
LIKE CHIEF MINSON SAID IN THE ARTICLE, MARIANNE WROTE ABOUT MY SON AND MY FIGHT.
MUCH OF THIS INCREASE IS HOMELESSNESS IS DIRECTLY TIED TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL ILLNESS.
TRYING TO CONVINCE AND REASON WITH SOMEONE THAT IS HAVING MENTAL ISSUES TO BASICALLY GO INTO A SHELTER IS NOT AN EASY TASK.
ASK SWAG, NEVER, NEVER COULD CONVINCE CODY.
WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT FACTOR.
WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT.
BUT IT SEEMS THE VOLUNTARY APPROACH IS NOT WORKING FOR THOSE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE, WHICH IS A BIG MAJORITY OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
HOW MANY OF THOSE HOMELESS IN OUR CITY ARE DUE TO FINANCIAL SITUATIONS THAT THIS PROGRAM MIGHT HELP? I LIKE THE IDEA OF WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
OUR PROP 36 IS NOT DELIVERING ON THE DRUG TREATMENT SIDE.
ACCORDING TO CAL MATTERS ARTICLE AND OTHER ARTICLES I'VE READ, CODY HAD THE THREE ARRESTS FOR DRUG POSSESSION, BUT IT WASN'T USED ON HIM.
I KNOW OUR COUNTY HAS TAKEN PRECAUTIONARY APPROACH WITH THE TREATMENT MANDATED PORTION OF THE LAW.
WE WILL BE GOING BACK TO COURT ON DECEMBER 8TH TO SEE WHAT ARROWHEAD REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER, A COUNTY RUN HOSPITAL HAS TO SAY WHY THEY RELEASED CODY THE WAY THEY DID WHEN IT WAS A 51 50 CASE.
BUT A COURT ORDER EVALUATION FROM A JUDGE.
I HAVE INVITED COUNTY STAFF, BY THE WAY, SOME COUNTY STAFFS.
SO I DO JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON THE COST AND HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BENEFIT FROM THE, AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF ONTARIO.
THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, ART, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUT MAYBE, UH, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOKED INTO IN INVESTING WITH ONTARIO.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND GREAT VFWI MEAN, UH, VETERAN CEREMONY, WE WERE THERE.
AS YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND'S A VFW COMMANDER.
BOTH WERE GREAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
NOW, UH, MAYOR, I, I THINK IT BE GOOD FOR THE COUNCIL IF WE INVITED, UH, CARRIE HARMON UP TO, UH, SPEAK.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
YEAH, AS SHE'S COMING UP, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS AND FALLACIES WITH ANY TYPE OF HOMELESS THINGS AND, AND PUTTING PEOPLE INTO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, IT'S VOLUNTARY.
AND BELIEVE ME THAT, UH, UH, JOANNE AND I CAN ATTEST
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TO THE FACT YOU MAY HAVE A, A CHILD THAT IS NEED IN NEED WITH THESE SERVICES, BUT IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR A 51 50, WHICH IS A MANDATORY 72 HOUR HOLD, THEY, YOU CAN CHECK 'EM IN IN THE MORNING AND, AND IF THEY'RE OVER 21, THEY CHECK THEMSELVES OUT IN THE AFTERNOON AND GET NOTHING.SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEN, UM, STAFF.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WHILE I'M HERE.
FIRST, I WANNA THANK YOU, UM, AND ALSO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE TODAY FOR THIS ITEM, FOR THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING INTO THIS.
I REALIZE THAT THIS IS A BIG DECISION FOR YOUR CITY AND YOUR NEED VARIES, UM, FROM OTHER CITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING.
I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU THE COUNTY'S VISION FOR THE REGIONAL NAVIGATION CENTER.
UM, IT DID BEGIN WITH SOME CONVERSATIONS AMONG MAYORS OF HOW TO CREATE A SHELTERING SYSTEM IN THE WEST END THAT HELPED LEVERAGE RESOURCES AND, UM, SHARE FACILITIES IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY WAS A MORE EFFICIENT USE OF BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE DOLLARS.
AND WHAT CAME TO BE WAS THE IDEA OF A WEST END NAVIGATION CENTER THAT WAS CONSIDERABLE, THAT WAS OF CONSIDERABLE SIZE TO SERVE AS A ONE STOP.
AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT A 200 BED FACILITY.
FONTANA WAS AGGRESSIVELY BUILDING OUT THEIR OWN SHELTER SYSTEM AND AGREED TO SERVE AS A HOST CITY AND CONTRIBUTE A MUCH LARGER RATE.
UM, THE COUNTY IS COVERING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
SO AT PRESENT TIME, THAT'S ESTIMATED TO BE 20 MILLION.
AND THAT'S THE BUDGET THAT I HAVE BUILT THE PROJECT AROUND.
WE ALL KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE ALL OVER THE BOARD.
NOW MANY OF US HAVE SEEN THAT WITH, WITH OTHER PROJECTS, SO IT COULD COME IN SLIGHTLY HIGHER.
BUT AGAIN, THE COUNTY IS, IS WILLING TO BEAR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE COSTS.
AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THIS FACILITY INTO USE FOR 10 YEARS JUST TO GET A ROI FOR OUR ENTIRE CONSTITUENCY ON THIS LEVEL OF INVESTMENT.
AND WE'RE LEVERAGING A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDS, SOME STATE FUNDS, BUT THERE ARE SOME COUNTY GENERAL FUNDS IN THAT AS WELL.
THE IDEA OF A REGIONAL CENTER IS, AGAIN, TO BE MORE EFFICIENT IN OUR USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, BUT TO AVOID CITIES AND OTHER, UM, ENTITIES LIKE NONPROFIT SHELTERS COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER, OTHER FOR OPERATING FUNDS.
IT'S ONE THING TO BUILD IT, ACTUALLY BUILDING IT IS THE EASY PART.
BUT TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONS, THESE ARE VERY SERVICE INTENSIVE AND THE KEY INGREDIENT HERE IS THE STAFF, RIGHT? AND THE LEVEL OF STAFF.
AND THAT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN OPERATING, UM, DOLLARS.
AND SO IF WE CREATE ONE LARGE SHELTER, IT AVOIDS THE NEED FOR SOME CITIES THAT HAVE A MORE SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, UM, FROM HAVING TO STAND UP THEIR OWN AND THEN CANNIBALIZING THE OPERATIONAL FUNDING ENVIRONMENT.
UM, I REALIZE JUST TO GET TO WHY THERE'S, UM, THE FUNDING RANGE THAT EXISTS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT REALLY RANGES FROM 200,000 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, CITY OF FONTANA, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST UNDER 400,000.
WE WANTED TO MAKE IT, UM, AT A, AT A RATE WHERE WE COUNCILS WEREN'T HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN FUNDING A DEPUTY VERSUS INVESTING IN THE SHELTER BECAUSE WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT PUBLIC, A PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENT IS PART OF THIS STRATEGY.
BUT WE REALLY WANT TO, UM, HONE PEOPLE, GETTING PEOPLE INTO SERVICE.
AND IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AS WE CREATED THE TIERED SYSTEM TO CREATE EVERYBODY, ALL THIS PARTICIPATING CITY'S INVESTMENT RATE BELOW THE $500,000 ANNUAL MARK.
I DO THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA SERVE AS A MODEL ACROSS THE STATE OF NOT JUST CITY AND COUNTY COLLABORATION, BUT OF DEPLOYING COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES SUCH AS OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OUR SUBSTANCE USE COUNSELORS, OUR PUBLIC HEALTH RESOURCES IN A MORE, UM, TARGETED MANNER TO GET PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE LIKE OVERHAULING THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM OF CARE UNDER PROP ONE.
SO PROP ONE REQUIRES 30% OF YOUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FUNDS FROM THE STATE TO BE INVESTED IN HOUSING INTERVENTIONS.
THAT INCLUDES SHELTER INTERVENTIONS.
SO DOWN THE ROAD, LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW, THIS FACILITY WILL FIGURE INTO THAT OVERHAUL AND THAT THAT, UM, REDIRECTING OF FUNDING COULD ALSO DEFRAY YOUR COSTS.
UM, BUT I DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS A BIG DECISION FOR A SMALLER CITY LIKE CITY OF CHINO HILLS.
UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE DECISION POINT HERE REAL QUICKLY, UM, IS THERE ANY STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT CAN HELP OFFSET THAT, THIS INITIAL, UH, INITIAL INVESTMENT AND OR, UH, ONGOING OPERATION? YES, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO, WHILE I CAN'T, THIS IS ANTICIPATED FUNDS, AND I CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES, BUT THAT RETOOLING OF THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM UNDER PROP ONE,
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SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY USED TO PUT PEOPLE IN MOTELS OR TO DO SMALL, UM, TO CONTRACT WITH SMALL PROVIDERS TO DO EMERGENCY SHELTERS COULD BE REDIRECTED HERE.RIGHT? YOU KNOW, UPWARDS OF SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS ARE INVESTED IN THAT TYPE OF HOUSING STRATEGY ACROSS THE COUNTY JUST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO I THINK THERE'S FUNDING UNDER, UM, OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUSPICES.
I ALSO THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A VERY COMPETITIVE, UM, PROJECT FOR PRIVATE FUNDS LIKE THE HILTON FOUNDATION, UM, SOME OTHER LOCAL FUNDING SOURCES, UM, INCLUDING HEALTHCARE FUNDING.
SO I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT EVEN IN OUR FIRST YEARS OF OPERATIONS, THAT THE CITIES WILL SEE A REDUCTION IN THEIR SHARE BASED ON US SECURING COMPETITIVE GRANTS AND REDIRECTING SOME COUNTY FUNDING THAT WAS USED FOR LIKE MOTEL VOUCHERING IN A MORE COHESIVE WAY IN THIS SHELTER.
UM, BUT I, THAT WE HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
THE, THE REASON I ASK IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM STATEWIDE.
SOME COUNTIES ARE FAR WORSE THAN OTHERS.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THE MONEY THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE STATE SEEMS TO BE BEING WASTED, LITERALLY, AND NOT PUT TO GOOD USE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS TYPE OF A, A, A PROCESS IS FAR BETTER USE OF HOMELESS FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE STATE THAN MOST OF THE ONES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT.
SO, I'M ENCOURAGED THAT WE COULD MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
UH, WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, BUT, UH, I, I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEELINGS AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S REALISTIC TO EXPECT THAT THE STATE WILL HELP FINANCE SOME OF THIS BECAUSE, OR FUND IT BECAUSE IT'S A STATEWIDE PROBLEM.
AND, UH, BY COUNT, AS FAR AS COUNTIES GO, WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE LEAST AFFECTED STATEWIDE.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? YES, PETER, JUST A FEW POINTS.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, CARRIE.
I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A COUPLE OF THESE MEETINGS, OR IT'S BEEN AT SOME OF THOSE ALSO AS FAR AS REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL.
UH, AND THE NAVIGATION CENTER'S GONNA BE WONDERFUL.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE BEST IN THE REGION.
I KNOW THERE'S ONE IN THE HIGH DESERT, AND IT'S, IT'S BECOME A MODEL AND I THINK THIS ONE WILL BE EVEN BETTER, JUST THE WAY IT'S BEING PLANNED OUT.
OBVIOUSLY, OUR CITY IS A SMALL CITY.
WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING, UH, SWAG, THE SWAG GROUP AT 250,000 OR SO, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS CURRENTLY.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE POSSIBLY COMMITTING $200,000 A YEAR FOR NUMEROUS YEARS.
THAT'S A LOT FOR THE SMALL CITY OF CHINO HILLS TO BEAR, UH, ON HOMELESS.
NOW, A HOMELESS COUNT COULD GO UP OVER TIME AND IT POSSIBLY WILL, UH, WITH THE OLYMPICS APPROACHING, WE KNOW THAT COULD RELOCATE INDIVIDUALS OUT OF LA COUNTY.
BUT, UM, IT, IT, I I JUST THINK A 10 YEAR COMMITMENT FOR 200,000 IS UNREASONABLE TO ASK OF THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS WITH OUR CURRENT COUNT.
UH, AND AS PROACTIVE, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WITH SWAG, WE'VE HAD VERY LITTLE RESULTS AS FAR AS PLACING SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN OTHER FACILITIES, BASED ON WHAT JOANNE SAID, AND JUST WHAT WE KNOW FROM DEALING WITH SWAG.
SO I KNOW THERE CAN BE MORE DISCUSSION, BUT IF, AND WE WANT TO BE A GOOD, A, A GOOD, UM, PARTNER IN THE REGION, ALTHOUGH WE'RE ON THE FAR END, THE WEST END.
SO AS BEN SAID, IT'S A LONG DISTANCE FROM HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA TAKE THE INDIVIDUALS IF THEY AGREE, BUT IT'S MINIMALLY A 45 MINUTE DRIVE MINIMALLY TO GET TO THE FACILITY.
I WOULD SUGGEST A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED TERM, AT LEAST AN INITIAL TERM, UH, TO, TO, BEFORE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT OF, OF 200,000, I WOULD SAY, TRY TO MIRROR WHAT ONTARIO IS PROPOSING, WHICH IS A THREE YEAR.
SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR US.
UNLESS THE COUNTY OR, OR FONTANA'S WILLING TO GIVE A REBATE ON THE LACK OF US USING ANY OF THE BEDS.
I MEAN, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE WE WON'T USE A SINGLE BED DURING THAT ONE YEAR TERM BECAUSE OF OUR, ARE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS FAR AS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE IN TOWN AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT, UM, TREATMENT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST A SIGNIFICANT REDUCED OF OVER THE 10 YEARS, AND I'M SUGGESTING THREE YEARS TO MAKE BEFORE WE, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? MAYOR, THANK, SORRY, IF I CAN INTERJECT, I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UH, UH, VICE MAYOR JOES WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CHIME.
DON'T WORRY OUTTA SIGHT, OUTTA MIND.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK JUST HEARING THE COMMENTS SO FAR IN THE DEBATE, YOU KNOW, I THINK JOANNE REALLY HIT IT ON THE HEAD WITH SO MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK I, I HAVE, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT GENERAL FUND USE AS WELL,
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AND I'M, I'M, I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE ALL DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU KNOW, THAT THE COUNTY'S REALLY STEPPED UP TO TAKE THIS, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR US AT THE, AT THE COST.AND MY QUESTION WOULD BE, SAY FOR, YOU KNOW, SAY WE DON'T GO FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A CHINO HILLS RESIDENT THAT DOES SHOW UP.
WOULD THEY BE PRECLUDED FROM, FROM A BED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, UH, MAKE THIS, UH, MAKE THIS INVESTMENT AND SIGN ON? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU,
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEGOTIATING THIS TOGETHER.
UM, QUICK THING,
AND I THINK AS THIS GETS UP AND RUNNING, IT WILL SHOW, IT WILL DEMONSTRATE RESULTS.
UM, THE OTHER THING AS IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BE A PARTI, UH, PARTICIPATING CITY, THEN YOU WOULD BE PRECLUDED FROM USING THE SHELTER ONE THING.
SO AS A CITY, I, I, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY IT THIS WAY.
SO IF WE HAD A RESIDENT UNBEKNOWNST TO THE CITY THAT SHOWED UP, WOULD THEY NOT BE ALLOWED TO, UH, PARTAKE IN THIS, UH, SHELTER? WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE REFERRED, I I, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THAT ONE.
AND CARRIE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
I BELIEVE THE WAY THE MOU IS STRUCTURED, THERE'S NO WALK-IN, SO THE PERSON WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST SHOW UP AND TO, UH, UH, JOANNE'S QUESTION.
WE WOULD BE THE REFERRING AGENCY.
SO IF THE PERSON WALKED UP WITHOUT A REFERRAL FROM THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO THE SERVICES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IF WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A SIDE AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER CITY TO LET'S SAY BUY ONE OF THEIR BEDS, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THEM FOR THE REFERRAL AND FOR THE PLACEMENT IN THE PROGRAM.
UH, THAT ALSO GOES TO JOANNE'S QUESTION IS, THEORETICALLY WE COULD HAVE A SIDE AGREEMENT WITH A CITY TO SELL OUR, UH, UNDERUTILIZED BEDS, BUT THOSE WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE, UH, INDIVIDUALLY NEGOTIATED EITHER US AS A NON PARTICIPANT IN THE MOU, HAVING ACCESS THROUGH AN AGREEMENT WITH A PARTICIPANT.
UH, BUT AS STRUCTURED THEY WOULD NOT JUST BE ABLE TO WALK UP WITHOUT THE REFERRAL.
AND THAT IT SORT OF PROTECTS THE HOST CITY, UH, FROM BECOMING A, UH, MAGNET OR ATTRACTION, UH, FOR PEOPLE SEEKING SERVICES WITHOUT HAVING SOME ACCOUNTABILITY BACK TO THE, UH, UH, PARTNER AGENCY.
LIKE, UH, AS A MEMBER OF THE MOU, IS THAT, UH, REALLY? OKAY.
THERE'S, AT SOME POINT IN TIME THERE'S GONNA BE AN ANNUAL COST ON THIS, EVERYTHING, ALL, ALL IN THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL COST FOR THE SERVICES FOR HOWEVER MANY, UH, THEY CAN CALL, UH, PULL IN DURING THE ENTIRE YEAR.
UH, IS THERE ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM THAT SOMEHOW THERE COULD BE A PRO RATA COST? MAYBE EVEN IF IT'S AN ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT TO OUR BUY-IN THAT REFLECTS OUR TRUE INVOLVEMENT.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE ONLY PAYING, YOU KNOW, A, A A 10TH OF A PERCENT OF THE OVERALL USAGE, THEN WHY SHOULD WE BE PAYING SUCH A HIGH UPFRONT COST? THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, ALSO, SOME TYPE OF REBATE.
'CAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE WE WON'T USE A SINGLE BED.
'CAUSE THERE IS THERE, AND AGAIN, REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH OR ADEQUATE JUSTIFICATION TO GET THEM TRANSPORTED TO THAT LOCATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, JOANNE'S THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THAT CODY WAS NOT ALL THAT COOPERATIVE A LOT OF TIMES.
UH, I REMEMBER MY BIPOLAR SON WAS NOT REAL COOPERATIVE WHEN THESE KIND OF THINGS CAME UP.
SO THE REALITY IS, UH, YOU CAN'T FORCE 'EM TO GO.
AND SO IT SEEMED LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD, I THINK IN THAT.
AND WE'LL GET MORE ABOUT THAT.
BUT AGAIN, BACK TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APP OR, OR THE, BUT SHE JUST COMMENTS WHEN WE GET THE COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT.
OH, DID YOU HAVE ONE BREAK, CARRIE? HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.
YOU SAID THAT, UH, THE COUNTY'S WILLING TO PAY $20 MILLION.
IS THAT JUST CONSTRUCTION COSTS? IT'S ACQUISITION AND IMPROVEMENT COSTS.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE STAFFING THE FACILITY? UM, AND ALSO AN ANNUAL BUDGET? THE ANNUAL BUDGET IS ACTUALLY BETWEEN SIX AND 8 MILLION.
UM, A A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT COST WILL BE DEFRAYED FROM MEDI-CAL AND CAL AIM BILLING, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RECUPERATIVE CARE BEDS IN THE SOBERING CENTER.
SO THE GENERAL BEDS ARE WHAT'S ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT $3 MILLION.
AND STAFFING CAN RUN, UM, ON A SHIFT BETWEEN 20 TO 50, UH, CASE MANAGERS, YOU KNOW, ANCILLARY STAFF.
WE HAVE A LARGE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN,
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UM, COUNTY STAFF WHO ARE LIKE, LIKE EMPLOYMENT COUNSELORS, PUBLIC HEALTH TECHS, THEY'LL BE DEPLOYED AND THAT WILL BE THEIR ASSIGNED WORK SITE.BUT THAT WILL NOT COST ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY, WE'RE TAKING COUNTY STAFF RESOURCES AND REASSIGNING THEM TO, TO THAT AS THEIR WORK SITE.
SO WE'RE THE CITIES ARE SAVING MONEY THEN? YES.
BECAUSE YOU WERE TELLING ME AND YEAH, DEFINITELY.
AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UM, TO THE POINT ABOUT COSTS AND POTENTIALLY REBATES, THE COSTS ARE EVALUATED BY THE OPERATIONS AND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ANNUALLY.
SO THERE COULD BE AN ANNUAL KIND OF RECALIBRATION BASED ON USAGE NEED, EVEN ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT'S SECURED.
SO THAT'S ALSO BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT THIS ISN'T JUST LOOKED AT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'LL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY BECAUSE ONE, WE'RE JUST GETTING THIS UP AND RUNNING AND WE'RE ALSO IN A CHANGING LANDSCAPE RIGHT NOW WITH FUNDING.
G, IS SHE GONNA BE INVOLVED IN THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
SHE'S BEEN IN ALL THE DESIGN MEETINGS AND SHE'S BEEN IN ALL THE PROGRAMMATIC PLANNING INTERNALLY.
AND THEN WITH PROP 36 AND CARE COURT, DOES THAT PLAY INTO THIS AT ALL MANDATES? SO FOLKS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THOSE MANDATES ARE REALLY TOO ILL TO BE PLACED AT A FACILITY LIKE THAT.
BUT WHAT WE FIND IS WHEN SOMETIMES SCREENINGS ARE DONE OR PEOPLE ARE HOSPITALIZED AND THEN ARE STABILIZED ON MEDS, THIS IS A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO STEP DOWN TO.
OR IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT SCREENING CRITERIA TO BE REDIRECTED TO, WE ALSO KNOW, UM, THAT MANY TIMES WHEN A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL IS CAUSING DISRUPTION ON THE STREETS, IT'S USUALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER THE INFLUENCE.
AND THE SOBERING CENTER WOULD BE A PLACE TO TAKE PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND HOPEFULLY GET THEM INTO SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES.
BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START TALKING UP HERE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? NO, MR. MAYOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT.
PARDON ME? I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, IT'S PRETTY APPARENT THAT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED THIS MOU IS PRESENTED TO US, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH.
AND I, I, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE COMMENTS YOU GUYS HAVE MADE.
UM, WE ALL KNOW HOW MUCH WE SUPPORT THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY.
THIS IS GONNA BE A PRETTY SPECTACULAR PROJECT.
UM, BUT THEN AS WE'RE FOCUSING ON CHINO HILLS AND WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, AND THEN OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY WITH THIS MONEY, WE ALREADY HAVE A SWAG COMMITMENT THAT'S SIGNIFICANT AND WELL WORTH IT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY SAID, SEND IT, SEND BEN BACK TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE WITH DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT HAVE COME UP.
PETER'S SAYING MAYBE THREE YEARS, UM, MAYBE REDUCE IT FROM 200 TO 100,000, OR WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLE REBATES OR POSSIBLE REVIEWS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT REVIEW COULD ALSO GO UP MM-HMM
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF BY A CERTAIN DATE WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE OUTCOME OR THE RESULTS THAT WE CAN GO OUT WITHOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE PAYOUT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THERE'S NOT ENOUGH IN THE MOU TO, TO REALLY COVER US.
SO I THINK ALL THE STUFF THAT WE'VE SAID, BEN KNOWS WHAT HE NEEDS TO NEGOTIATE, BUT THAT'S JUST ANOTHER OBSERVATION.
IF YOU TOTAL UP ALL OF THE POINT IN TIME COUNT FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY OR FOR THE ENTIRE WEST END, THAT WOULD BE, UH, PARTICIPANTS IN THIS ABSENT ONTARIO, WHICH IS TIED TO JUST A THREE YEAR.
OUR, THE, ALL OF THE OTHER CITIES INVOLVED ARE STILL LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT FONTANA HAS ANNUALLY.
NOW WE KNOW FROM THE DISCUSSIONS THAT FONTANA'S BEEN THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND THIS.
AND WE KNOW, PETER, YOU AND I HAVE HEARD WHAT'S GO, GONE UP ON, IN THE, OR GONE ON IN THE UPPER DESERT AND IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
IT'S A WONDERFUL FACILITY AND IT REALLY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE THAT COVERING EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRE, UH, COUNTY.
I, I THINK THAT IT IS PROBABLY TIME AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL CHIME IN TOO, BUT THAT WE GIVE YOU THE AUTHORITY TO GO BACK IN AND START DOING SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ALL OF THE THEM ARE.
IF YOU NEED CLARIFICATIONS, IF YOU WANNA ASK US WHAT WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT, UH, LET'S ASK FOR THE INPUT RIGHT NOW.
I THINK YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, BUT IF YOU CAN OUTLINE WHAT YOU HERE ARE SAYING AND WHAT YOU WILL GO BACK IN AND ASK ABOUT, THEN MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR YOUR ACTION GOING FURTHER.
DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? BRIAN? MR. MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES.
AND, UH, THE QUESTION OF A SIDE DEAL OR NOTE WITH ANOTHER PARTICIPATING CITY WAS MENTIONED, BEN, COULD WE ALSO MAYBE CHECK WITH THE CITY OF CHINO YEAH.
AND SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE A WAY
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TO, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH A DEAL WITH THEM ON THE SIDE, POTENTIALLY FOR MAYBE ONE OF THEIR BEDS.IF, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OR NOT.
I, I, I HAVE ASKED BEN, THIS CANYON RIDGE IS A FACILITY RIGHT ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
UH, SO FAR THE DISCUSSIONS HE'S HAD WITH THEM, UH, THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE TOO HOT ON THE IDEA OF US OF, YOU KNOW, HANDLING ANY HOMELESS FROM OUR FACILITY.
AND THEN AGAIN, IT REALLY GETS DOWN TO THE FACT OF IF THE PERSON IS NOT 51 50 INTO THE FACILITY, THEY CAN JUST WALK IN, WALK RIGHT BACK OUT.
SO IT'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE LAYERS TO THIS ISSUE.
BUT BEN, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HEAR US SAYING THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO? SO WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO LET YOU DO THAT? SO I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL IS AS STRUCTURED ON, ON THE SCREEN AND IN THE, UH, STAFF REPORT IS IF THERE WAS ABSOLUTE CLARITY ON A FEW DEAL POINTS TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE, WE WERE SEEKING THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION FOR ME TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT UNDER NEW TERMS. BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE TOO MANY MOVING PARTS FOR THAT.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, SPECIFICALLY THAT WE AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF THE MOU WITH THE COUNTY, UH, SEEKING, UH, EITHER A REDUCED, UH, ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION BELOW 200,000, A SHORTER TERM BELOW THE 10 YEAR AGREEMENT.
AND TO, UH, VICE MAYOR JOE'S POINT, ALSO SEEKING ALTERNATIVE PARTICIPATION THROUGH A MEMBER AGENCY, WHETHER IT'S CHINO OR SOME OTHER.
AND THEN WE CAN TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD FIT INTO THEIR MODEL.
AND THEN, UH, I KNOW THE COUNTY IS SEEKING TO BRING THIS TO THE BOARD AND THEY WOULD LIKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CERTAINTY.
SO WE'LL MAKE THIS A HIGH PRIORITY, BUT THAT MEANS WE'LL BE BACK, UH, UH, AS SOON AS THE NOVEMBER, UH, 25TH, UH, MEETING.
SO OUR NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.
SO THAT'S HOW WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE THE COUNCIL ACT ON.
CAN I GET A MOTION FROM SOMEONE TO I'LL MOVE IT SECOND.
SO WE WILL LOCK IN OUR VOTES AND WE WILL ASK FOR BRIAN'S VERBAL VOTE.
THANK MOTION, CARRIE, YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, THE AUDIENCE'S INDULGENCE.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DEAL WITH.
[21. Review and file update to City Hall Fire emergency declaration in accordance with Public Construction Code 22050 and continue to authorize City Manager to negotiate and execute all necessary agreements related to repair and restoration of City Hall under Chino Hills Municipal Code 2.08.065.A.1 on an emergency basis and determine by four-fifths vote, the need to continue City Manager's authority under Public Construction Code 22050 to repair City Hall and procure necessary equipment, services, and supplies for these purposes, without giving notice for bids to let contracts, due to continued existence of local emergency caused by City Hall fire and flooding]
ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 21, REVIEW AND UPDATE.UH, TO, TO FILE AND UPDATE THE CITY HALL FIRE EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ONGOING EACH MONTH OR EACH MEETING, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FIRE THAT HAPPENED IN JUNE.
UH, YOU WANNA SUMMARIZE THAT REAL QUICKLY FOR US? I WILL.
UH, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, WE CONTINUE TO, UH, RESTORE THE CITY HALL.
UH, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THE, UH, ELEVATOR PROJECT WILL CONCLUDE, UH, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE MONTH, THAT WILL THEN FACILITATE, FACILITATE US REMOVING THE TEMPORARY WALL, UH, GETTING, UH, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE BACK TO OUR COUNTERS.
WE STILL HAVE TO DO SOME MILLWORK AT THOSE COUNTERS, UH, BUT WITH THESE FEW MOVING PARTS, WE STILL BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, EMERGENCY, UH, CONDITIONS EXIST.
SO WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE THE, UH, THE, UH, UH, AUTHORIZATION UNDER THE EMERGENCY, UH, BY FOUR FIFTH VOTE.
SO, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, BUT THOSE ARE THE, THE BIG CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
I'LL MOVE, I'LL MOVE THE ITEM.
ROGERS SECOND BY MORAN MAYOR BENNETT? YES.
I THINK THIS IS THE ITEM THAT CARLOS HAS BEEN WAITING BACK THERE WITH BATED BREATH FOR, UH, ITEM 22, PROVIDE
[22. Provide direction regarding potential approaches such as grandfathering or phasing-in to address Building Industry Association’s (BIA) concerns about recent increases to Parks and Recreation Facilities Fee and Quimby In-Lieu Fee for residential development]
DIRECTION REGARDING POTENTIAL APPROACHES SUCH AS GRANDFATHERING OR PHASING IN TO ADDRESS BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS, CONCERNS ABOUT RECENT INCREASES TO PARKS AND RECREATION FEES AND QUIMBEE IN LIEU FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY KRISTA.
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING THE GRANDFATHERING AND PHASE IN OPTIONS FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES FEE AND QUIMBEE AND LOU.
AT THE OCTOBER 28TH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL APPROVED UPDATES TO THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES AND QUIMBEE AND LOU FEES BASED ON A NEXUS STUDY UPDATE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, OR BIA, REQUESTED A DELAY IN THE INCREASES FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES
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FEE AND THE QUIMBEE AND LOU FEE, THEY PROPOSED TWO APPROACHES.ONE, UH, GRANDFATHERING, WHICH MEANS ALLOWING PROJECTS WITH APPROVED TENTATIVE TRACK MAPS BY OCTOBER 28TH, 2025 TO PAY CURRENT FEES IF THEIR FINAL MAP IS APPROVED BY NOVEMBER 1ST, 2028.
AND SECOND, UH, IS A PHASE IN APPROACH WHICH GRADUALLY IMPLEMENTS THE NEW FEES FOR ALL OTHER PROJECTS OVER FOUR YEARS.
STAFF MET TO CALCULATE THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THESE, UM, REQUESTS.
SO I'LL GO OVER THE ASSUMPTIONS BEHIND THE ANALYSIS.
FOR GRANDFATHERING ELIGIBILITY, THE ANALYSIS ASSUMES THAT 79 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND 574 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE PLANNED OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANDFATHERING.
OF THESE 44 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ALREADY HAVE FEES LOCKED AT CURRENT RATES UNDER STATE LAW.
SECOND, THE VILLA ORBA PROJECT ALREADY HAS PARK FEE CREDITS IN PLACE THAT REDUCE THE FEES OWED BY ABOUT 97%.
THESE CREDITS WERE INCLUDED IN OUR ANALYSIS.
THIRD, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ESTIMATES, THE ANALYSIS ASSUMES FUTURE PROJECTS WILL INCLUDE 173 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND 574 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
FOURTH, UH, LOST REVENUE IS CALCULATED BASED ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NEWLY ADOPTED FEES AND THE CURRENT FEES.
ANY REDUCTION IN FEES REPRESENTS A COST THE CITY WOULD NEED TO COVER TO FUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE FEES ARE INTENDED FOR.
AND LASTLY, FOR THE PHASE IN OPTIONS, THE ANALYSIS ASSUMES GRADUAL INCREASES EITHER 25% PER YEAR OVER FOUR YEARS, OR 33% PER YEAR OVER THREE YEARS.
PLUS ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS FOR COST ESCALATIONS.
THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE FISCAL IMPACTS OF VARIOUS OPTIONS.
GRANDFATHERING EXISTING PROJECTS ALONE COULD RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY $4.7 MILLION IN LOST REVENUE.
A FOUR YEAR PHASE IN A LOAN COULD RESULT IN ABOUT 4 MILLION LOST REVENUE.
COMBINING GRANDFATHERING WITH A FOUR YEAR PHASE IN COULD RESULT IN A TOTAL LOST REVENUE OF 5.6 MILLION.
THIS IS THE REQUEST THAT BI MADE AT A THREE YEAR PHASE IN WITH NO GRANDFATHERING.
IT COULD REDUCE THE LOST REVENUE TO 2.4 MILLION, REPRESENTING THE LOWEST FINANCIAL IMPACT, WHILE STILL PROVIDING RELIEF TO DEVELOPERS.
SO TONIGHT'S STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL REGARDING THE GRANDFATHERING AND OR PHASING IN OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES FEE AND QUIMBEE AND LOU FEE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT? MM-HMM.
ALRIGHT, CARLOS, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION OF OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, UH, REGARDING THE PROPOSED INCREASES TO PARK FEES.
APPROXIMATELY 290% INCREASE, UH, FOR MULTI-FAMILY HOMES FOR PARKS, AND 450% INCREASE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THOSE COSTS WILL BE PASSED DIRECTLY TO HOME BUYERS.
A ADDING ANOTHER BARRIER TO FAMILIES PURSUING THE AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP.
UH, THIS IS NOT ABOUT PROFITS.
UH, THIS IS ABOUT PROJECT VIABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY ABILITY.
WE CANNOT HAVE NEW PARKS WITHOUT NEW HOMES, AND WE CAN ACHIEVE BOTH THROUGH BALANCE.
SO THE STAFF HAS HIGHLIGHTED, UH, OPTIONS.
WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION, SUPPORT OF COUNCIL'S PRIOR DIRECTION AT THE LAST MEETING TO INCLUDE A GRANDFATHER EXEMPTION FOR ALL CURRENT TENTATIVE MAPS AS OF OCTOBER 28.
THOSE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TWO YEARS TO SECURE A FINAL RECORDED MAP WITH THE EXEMPTION EXPIRING IN NOVEMBER OF 27.
THAT WAS THE COUNCIL, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND DIRECTION.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT ALTERNATIVE APPROACH THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED.
ALSO, WE SUPPORT THE COUNCIL'S PRIOR DIRECTION, UH, FOR A PHASE IN NOT A FOUR YEARS AS WE HAD ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED, BUT THREE YEARS AS HIGHLIGHTED BY COUNCIL DIRECTION LAST MEETING.
SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD ADJUST THE NET, UH, INCREASE, UH, BY ONE THIRD IN, UH, 20 26, 27
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AND 28 THROUGH A THREE YEAR PHASE IN.WE URGE THE COUNCIL TO STAY THE COURSE, STAY THE COURSE FOR LOCAL CONTROL, STAY THE COURSE FOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY, THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, AND THE FAMILIES WHO NEED MORE HOUSING OPTIONS.
OUR MEMBERS WORK EVERY DAY TO HELP MEET CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING AFFORD AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
YET ONLY 18% OF CALIFORNIANS CAN AFFORD THE MEDIA AND HOME PRICE IN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.
AND CHINO HILLS HAS ACHIEVED, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, ONLY 4.8% OF THE ARENA GOALS MIDWAY THROUGH THE CURRENT CYCLE.
IMPOSING SUCH A DRAMATIC, UH, INCREASE, UH, WOULD ONLY WORSEN AFFORDABILITY AND JEOPARDIZE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO MEET ITS STATE HOUSING TARGETS.
LET ME CLOSE BY SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
WE HOUSE A, WE HAVE A HOUSING POLICY CRISIS, AND TONIGHT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD DIFFERENTLY TO STATE THE COURSE AND SUPPORT THE BALANCED APPROACH THAT PROVIDES QUALITY PARKS WHILE KEEPING HOUSING ATTAINABLE FOR WORKING FAMILIES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED LEADERSHIP AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY RESPECTFULLY, THE BARS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, TODAY, DO NOT PROVIDE ANY THOUGHT ON THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF DEVELOPMENT ALTOGETHER WITHOUT A BALANCED APPROACH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY QUESTIONS OF CARLOS WHILE HE IS HERE? ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, LET'S BRING IT UP HERE.
UM, I I I THINK I'LL START IT OUT AND JUST, WE CAN GO FROM HERE.
THE REALITY IS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THE UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS THAT THE ULTIMATE BUYERS OF, OF PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER FOR EVERY COST.
THAT THERE IS NOT ONLY THEIR DEVELOPMENTAL COSTS, THEIR CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THEIR PROFIT LEVEL, EVERYTHING THAT IT IS GONNA BE A PASS THROUGH FROM THE DEVELOPER TO THE ULTIMATE RESIDENT.
WE CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT THE OVERALL COST OF HOUSING GOING UP IN THE, THE, UH, STATE AND, AND CLEARLY NOT IN THE STATE OR THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS.
WE ARE A VERY ATTRACTIVE CITY.
UH, AND WHEN PROPERTIES ARE BUILT RIGHT NOW, UH, THEY'RE SELLING AT CRAZY, CRAZY VALUES.
MOST OF US SAY THAT WE CAN'T EVEN AFFORD OUR OWN HOMES AT CURRENT VALUES.
BUT THE REALITY IS, UH, I FEEL FIRM OR FEEL VERY FIRM ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE CANNOT REDUCE THESE FEES, THESE PROPOSED FEES, AND IN ESSENCE SUBSIDIZE THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IT'S MAY SOUND CRUEL, BUT THAT, THAT'S MY PERSONAL FEELING ON IT.
SO MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IS GONNA BE THAT WE DO THE THREE YEAR PHASE IN ALTERNATIVE, IT SAVES US OR GETS US ABOUT $3 MILLION THAT LESS THAT WE WILL LOSE, IF THAT'S THE PROPER WAY TO PUT IT.
UH, AND IT JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO, TO DO A PHASE IN, UH, LONGER THAN THAT BECAUSE, UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT GOOD USE OF OUR PUBLICS AND OUR, OUR CITIZENS MONEY.
SO ANYBODY ELSE WANNA KICK IN ON THAT? I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW.
HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS? I LIKE IT.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OF WHAT TO DO AND WHAT TO IN INSTRUCT? UH, WHAT IS IT YOU REALLY NEED, BEN? BASED ON WHAT I JUST SAID, I'M GONNA LOOK AT, UH, THE STAFF REPORT TO MAKE SURE I GOT THIS.
UH, UH, THE COUNCIL IS DIRECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING, UH, THE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW A THREE YEAR PHASE IN ONLY OF THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, PARKS AND, UH, QUI PARKS AND RECREATION AND QUIMBEE FEES.
DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT, KRISTA OR NICK? CORRECT.
I, SORRY, MR. UH, YES, BRIAN, I'M SORRY.
UH, I'M, IN LOOKING AT THE, THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAD, WHAT, UM, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, WHAT WAS THE DIRECTION THAT WE GAVE, UH, TO BE EXPLORED? JUST SO, JUST SO I'M MAKING SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE.
SO, AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, WE WERE, UH, PROPOSING STAFF WAS ACTUALLY PROPOSING THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW FEE PROGRAM.
UH, HOWEVER, WE RECEIVED FROM THE, UH, BIA REPRESENTATIVES, AN ALTERNATE, UH, PLAN TO DO EITHER, UH, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY, AND A GRANDFATHERING AND A FOUR YEAR PHASE IN THE COUNCIL GAVE STAFF DIRECTION TO BRING BACK FURTHER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, THE BIA PLAN AS PROPOSED WITH A MODIFICATION, A SHORTER GRANDFATHERING PERIOD, AND TO ALSO BRING BACK THE DISCUSSION FOR A THREE YEAR, UH, UH, PHASE IN.
SO STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THOSE OPTIONS
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ARE ON THE TABLE FOR THE COUNCIL TO GIVE DIRECTION.BUT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT A THREE YEAR PHASE IN ONLY IS THE LEAST, UH, UH, RESTRICTIVE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY.
BUT IT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF WHAT WAS REQUESTED BY, UH, BY, UH, UH, THE BIA.
BUT I DO WANNA MAKE THE, THE STRONG DISTINCTION THAT, UH, MY INTERPRETATIONS OF COUNCIL DIRECTION WAS BRING THIS BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IT WAS NOT IMPLEMENT, UH, UH, UH, A, A MODIFIED BIA PROGRAM.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE OPTION TODAY, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING FORTH THE NECESSARY ORDINANCES TO EXECUTE BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION FROM TONIGHT.
DID THAT HELP BRIAN? THE MOST FAVORABLE TO US IS THE THREE YEAR PHASING ALTERNATE.
YOU GOOD WITH THAT, BRIAN? THANK YOU.
AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BRIAN? YEP.
I, I I HAVE MADE THE MOTION THEN.
CARLOS, I GOT A QUESTION TO YOU BASED, I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SOME NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH OUR STAFF AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS UP HERE.
SO THE THREE YEAR IS WHAT YOU PREFER, CORRECT.
GRANDFATHERED AND PHASED IN, UH, RESPECTFULLY.
I, I RECALL, UM, THE ALTERNATIVE THAT'S BEING HIGHLIGHTED TODAY BY COUNSEL, UH, TO OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT INCLUDED AN EXEMPTION NOT OF, OF A THREE YEAR PERIOD, BUT OF TWO YEAR AND A PHASE IN NOT OF FOUR YEARS, BUT OF THREE YEARS.
AND WE WERE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, HOW THAT STRUCK, STRUCK A BALANCE.
AND THAT WAS A, A, A COMPROMISE.
SO MY COMMENTS TONIGHT, UH, ASSERTING OUR SUPPORT OF THAT DIRECTION, WHICH ULTIMATELY MADE ITS WAY TO THE STAFF REPORT TONIGHT, UH, WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD PROPOSED, UH, AS AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH THAT HAD TWO IMPORTANT PARTS TO CHANGE THE RULES.
OR MOVING THE GOALPOSTS TO BORROW A SPORTS ANALOGY ON THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS, COUNTLESS CAPITAL WORKING WITH STAFF AND TO SAY, UH, NOW YOUR, UH, PROJECT IS OFF BY 450% IS OFF BY 200 PLUS PERCENT, WAS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
AND KEEPING THAT EXEMPTION AND NOT CHANGING THE RULES FOR THOSE PROJECTS, KNOWING THAT ULTIMATELY, AS WAS STATED CORRECTLY BY THE, BY THE MAYOR, UH, IT'S GONNA BE PASSED ON.
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, MAKE NO MISTAKE, GOVERNMENT HAS A, A DEFINITIVE IMPACT ON HOUSING PRICES.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY, YOUR DECISION TO CONSIDER AN EXEMPTION IS A BALANCED APPROACH.
IT'S NOT CHANGING THE RULES, UH, ON PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH DUTIFULLY WITH STAFF IN GOOD FAITH WITH STAFF, AND, AND ALLOWING THOSE 747, UH, UNITS TO MOVE FORWARD, NOT INDEFINITELY, BUT WITHIN A, A VERY CLEAR SUNSET TIME PERIOD TO MOVE FORWARD OR YOU LOSE THAT EXEMPTION OPPORTUNITY.
UH, THIS IS ALL ABOUT ATTAINABLE HOUSING AND WE ARE THINK WE ARE GRATEFUL.
PLEASE HEAR ME SAY WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF A THREE YEAR PHASE IN, UH, HOWEVER, WE WOULD URGE YOU TO STAY THE COURSE WITH THE PRIOR DELIBERATION FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED BEFORE AND, AND KEEP THAT EXEMPTION INTACT FOR THOSE 700 PLUS HOMES THAT ARE GONNA OCCUR.
THAT ADDITIONAL COST HERE NOW IN THE LATER STAGES OF, OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SO, UH, I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES THAT WE DON'T WANT TO COME OFF AT ALL AS UNAPPRECIATIVE OF THE PHASE IN THAT IS, UH, RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT.
BUT WE REALLY WERE, UH, URGING THEN AND NOW WHEN I THOUGHT WE HAD A, UH, COLLECTIVE CONSENSUS THAT THE EXEMPTION WAS ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS BALANCED APPROACH AND NOT CHANGING, UH, UH, THE RULES, UH, OF, UH, THE FINANCING OF DOING BUSINESS IN CHINO HILLS.
IS THIS AMOUNT? NO, NO, ACTUALLY IT'S NOT THIS AMOUNT ANYMORE.
UH, YOU'RE, I KNOW YOU'RE KIND OF IN THE LATER STAGES WE'RE GONNA CHANGE IT ON, ON, ON, ON YOU.
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OF MOVING THE GOALPOST WE'RE HOPING WOULD RESONATE AGAIN AS IT DID ON THE 28TH.AND YOU WOULD, UH, AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY CONSIDER KEEPING BOTH IN INTACT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
SO MAYOR BENNETT'S RECOMMENDATION IS JUST THE THREE YEAR PHASING AND NO GRANDFATHER.
IT'S THE THREE, IT'S THE, THE, THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS TO US, WHICH IS THE THREE YEAR PHASE IN OKAY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
'CAUSE WAIT, WELL, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE IS? THAT'S WHAT THAT TOTAL, THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT REPRESENTS JUST PHASING OVER THREE YEARS.
IT WAS, WAS NICE THAT STAFF, YOU KNOW, PARDON ME? IT WAS NICE THAT STAFF TOOK OUR CONSIDERATIONS AND THEY BROUGHT BACK THIS STAFF REPORT BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY OPTIONS THAT WERE FLYING AROUND DURING OUR DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND, UM, WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT HOUSING IS, IS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GRAPHS THAT FINANCE IS PRESENTING AND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, UM, SO BY ANY MEANS, IT WASN'T JUST, I MEAN, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, SO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THE, THE THREE PHASE IN AFTER SEEING ALL THE OTHER ONES AS WELL? YEAH.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE, I WAS TRYING TO DO THE MATH REAL HERE BECAUSE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT, UM, FINANCIAL IMPACT FOR REVENUE THAT WE'RE GONNA LOSE.
SO I THINK FOR ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOTIVATORS YEAH.
THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE LOST.
KRISTA, THAT IS ABOUT WHAT, $2.3 MILLION? YEAH, 2.4.
VERSUS LOST REVENUE VERSUS THE, THE COMBINED BIA PROPOSAL, WHICH IS 5.6.
SO ABOUT $3 MILLION LESS THAT WE FOREGO IN REVENUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR OUT OF OUR FUNDS.
I THINK THAT'S MAYBE THE SIMPLEST WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
SO WE'VE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND.
AND SO, SO BEN, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR ME VERBALLY WHAT THE THREE OR PHASE IN PLAN IS? I KNOW IT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT, SO WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC CARE WHAT THIS IS.
AND I, AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT, UH, AS, UH, HAS BEEN REPRESENTED BY THE BIA, WE HAD TWO ITEMS THAT THE, UH, UH, COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
A GRANDFATHERING, UH, WITH A MODIFIED, UH, TERM AND PHASE IN THE PHASE IN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WHAT THE AGREED UPON THREE YEAR VERSUS FOUR YEAR FROM THE LAST MEETING.
THE ONLY, UH, DIFFERENCE IS, IS STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT INSTEAD OF DOING BOTH A GRANDFATHERING AND A PHASE IN THAT WE ONLY DO THE PHASE IN.
SO IT ISN'T LIKE THAT WE'VE CHANGED THE, THE ALTERNATE TERM FROM FOUR TO THREE TO TWO FOR PHASE IN.
WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A A THREE YEAR PHASE IN WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THE FEES AS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN YEAR ONE AT 33% OF THAT FULL AMOUNT.
IN YEAR TWO, IT WOULD BE 66% OF THAT FULL AMOUNT.
AND THEN YEAR THREE, IT WOULD, UH, GO TO THE FULL AMOUNT.
SO THAT STAYS CONSISTENT WITH, I THINK WE, WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IS STAFF HAS PRESENTED THE COUNCIL WITH AN OPTION TO ONLY EXECUTE THAT PORTION BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE BO THE TWO OF THEM, UH, UH, AS PROPOSED.
SO WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
UH, LOCK YOUR VOTES IN AND THEN WE'LL GET A VERBAL VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ? I'M SAY YES.
[23. Provide direction to staff regarding continued commitment of $2.8 million in Measure I San Bernardino Valley Sub-Program funds to Pine Avenue Extension Project or potential reallocation of funds to other eligible arterial improvement projects within City such as Soquel Canyon Parkway Extension Project and direction to consider reallocation of approximately $1.4 million of existing Traffic Facilities Fee funds already collected from developers plus $600,000 of projected fees from Traffic Facilities Impact Fee Fund for other eligible projects such as Soquel Canyon Parkway Extension Project and/or consider restricting use of some or all of funds to alleviate negative impacts from Pine Avenue Extension Project within City of Chino Hills]
ALONG.I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
DO APPRECIATE THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND, UH, THE
THANK CARLOS, YOUR PROFESSIONAL UNDERSTANDING.
UM, MARCH CARRIES ZERO I 0 23 HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
SO WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO PUBLIC
[24. PUBLIC COMMENTS: At this time, members of the public may address the City Council regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Council that do not appear on the agenda. Please complete and submit to the Deputy City Clerk a "Request to Speak" card. Comments will be limited to a maximum of three minutes per speaker. The time allotted per person may vary depending on the total number of speakers received: three (3) minutes for 1-10 speakers; two (2) minutes for 11-15 speakers; and one (1) minute for 16 or more speakers.This comment period will generally be limited to 30 minutes per meeting, so not all members of the public may have the opportunity to speak at every council meeting.]
CON UH, COMMENTS OF NON AGENDIZED ITEMS. WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS, JESSICA? YES.PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEMS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION OF THE COUNCIL THAT DO NOT APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.
PLEASE COMPLETE AND SUBMIT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD TO THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM JOE LANYA.
WE DON'T GET TO SEE YOUR SMILING FACE UP HERE AS MUCH ANYMORE.
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WELL, THANK YOU.UH, MAYOR BENNETT, CITY COUNCIL STAFF.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK GOING ON AROUND HERE, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE.
UH, MY NAME IS JOE ALANIA AND, UH, I RUN A LITTLE BRO, UH, INSURANCE BROKERAGE CALLED COWELL INSURANCE SERVICES HERE IN CHINO HILLS.
WE'RE FOCUSED ON HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
UM, I LIVE IN BUTTERFIELD RANCH.
I'M A RESIDENT OF BUTTERFIELD RANCH FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, UM, INSURANCE RATES ARE REALLY HIGH NOW, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIGHER IN 2026.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME NEW RULES THAT ALLOW US TO MITIGATE RISK, FIRE RISK SPECIFICALLY, AND TO REDUCE OUR RATES.
UM, THINGS LIKE FIXING OUR ROOFS, UH, FILLING IN OR, AND CLOSING EAVES ON YOUR HOMES VENTS, UM, THAT MAKING THEM MORE EMBER RESISTANT.
REMOVING DEBRIS AND DEAD FOLIAGE CLOSE TO YOUR HOME, TRIMMING TREES, ALL THAT TYPE OF THING.
UH, BUT A BIG ONE THAT I THINK IS OFTEN OVERLOOKED IS THAT, UM, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO BECOME FIREWISE USA COMMUNITIES.
AND I, UH, FLOATED THIS IDEA EARLIER THIS MONTH TO A COUPLE OF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SOME PEOPLE ON THE FIRE BOARD.
IT DOES SAVE US MONEY, AND I'M SEEING IT, BY THE WAY, UH, WITH, UH, REAL CLIENTS.
WE HAVE ONE FIRE SAFE COMMUNITY UP IN, UH, CARBON CANYON.
I'M SURE YOU'RE REAL FAMILIAR WITH THAT RAY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A MODEL THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO DO MORE.
AND I'VE DECIDED TO SPEARHEAD AN INITIATIVE FOR BUTTERFIELD RANCH, AND I'M GOING TO NEED BOARD MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS.
UH, A FEW PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST.
AND TO BEGIN, I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE AT THE MEETING TONIGHT, THIS IS JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS, THAT I'M GONNA HOLD A ZOOM CALL ON SATURDAY AT 11:00 AM.
UM, AND FOR MORE INFORMATION, UH, I'VE PUT ON MY HOMEPAGE, MUL CHINO HILLS.COM, NOT.ORG, BUT.COM.
UH, ON THE HOMEPAGE IS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT MAKING BUTTERFIELD A FIRE SAFE COMMUNITY.
UH, UH, YOU CAN EMAIL ME ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THIS.
UH, JA@ALANYA.COM, A-L-A-G-N A.COM OR EVEN CALL ME.
I'M JUST PUT MY NUMBER OUT THERE.
I, I THINK THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT INITIATIVE AND, UH, I, I TRIED THIS IN 2021 AND I DIDN'T SUCCEED BECAUSE I JUST GOT TOO BUSY.
SO I, I'M GONNA SCALE IT DOWN.
JUST TRY TO LIMIT IT TO BUTTERFIELD AND HOPEFULLY CREATE A MODEL AND CREATE ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN CHINO HILLS THAT PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW.
BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNITY DRIVEN INITIATIVE, AND IT DOES REQUIRE SOME TIME AND VOLUNTEERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME WORK.
SO, BUT IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE'S INSURANCE RATES IN CARBON CANYON GO FROM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY ANY SPECIFIC NUMBERS.
IT MIGHT BE SMALL IN SOME AREAS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS ON MY CLIENTS THAT ARE UP IN THOSE, IN THAT FIRE SAFE COMMUNITY.
SO I'D LIKE TO JUST ANNOUNCE IT AND I HOPE, UH, THE, THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT IT.
WE APPRECIATE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND TRYING TO HELP OUT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MAYOR, CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH A QUESTION TO OUR, TO OUR CITY MANAGER? YES, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
CITY MANAGER REGARDING, UH, I WAS UP IN SACRAMENTO PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO, AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER LAURA REGARDING FIREWISE COMMUNITIES, AND CAN YOU FIND OUT IF THERE IS A DISCOUNT? 'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT I, WHAT I HEARD UP THERE FROM HIM THAT THERE REALLY WASN'T.
NUMBER TWO, HARDENING OF HOMES.
UM, AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN, AND COULD WE DO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR PERMITS? I MEAN, NOT THAT WE, WE DON'T DO INSPECTIONS, BUT IF WE CAN, I MEAN, THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BY DOING THIS.
IF WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
I I, I, I HAD ALSO HEARD THAT, UH, THE INSURANCE AGENTS SHOULD TAKE FIREWISE DESIGNATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION FOR RATES.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S STIPULATED THAT THEY SHOULD, IT ISN'T BEING IMPLEMENTED THAT WAY.
I WILL TURN TO, UH, JEREMY ALT WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE THE CHINO VALLEY FIRE DISTRICT HAS SECURED FIREWISE DESIGNATION FOR CHINO AND CHINO HILLS.
IS IS THAT ACCURATE? I KNOW THERE'S MULTIPLE PROGRAMS, BUT COULD YOU PROVIDE INPUT ON THAT? I THANK YOU.
CITY MANAGER, IN FACT, UM, I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT AS MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY IN THE CARBON CANYON AREA THROUGH THE WORK OF THE FIRE CARBON CANYON FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, THERE, THERE IS A FIREWISE COMMUNITY DESIGNATION IN THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, UH, OUR DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES THE CITY OF CHINO HILLS, IS ONE OF 50 CITIES LISTED IN WHAT'S CALLED THE FIRE RISK REDUCTION COMMUNITY LIST.
UH, THIS IS, UM, A, A LIST THAT, UM, DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE ARE ONE OF 50 COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE THAT'S ALREADY LISTED ON THIS LIST
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OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GONE THE EXTRA MILE TO TAKE THOSE, THOSE, UH, PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.SO, UM, OUR COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, SPECIFICALLY OUR FIRE MARSHAL, UH, DANIELLE O'TOOLE, SHE'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THESE TWO LISTS.
AND TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ SECOND POINT, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD IN OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WORKSHOP A PRESENTATION ON HOW DRAMATICALLY, UH, UH, UH, YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR HOME SURVIVAL CHANCES BY TAKING, UH, CONSTRUCTION METHODS LIKE SCREENS AND OTHERS.
UH, I THINK, WE'LL, WE CAN LOOK AT BRINGING IT TO A COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE DID PRESENT IT THERE.
UH, AND, UH, WE CAN PUT MORE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.
UH, THAT'S A, A BIG WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR HOMES BY, UH, MAKING CHANGES.
AND TO YOUR POINT, UH, MARQUEZ, IF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARQUEZ, IF I HEARD YOU, UH, WE ALSO, YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, SUBSIDIZING, UH, PERMIT FEES.
UH, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE MORE, UH, HOME HEARTENING.
[ SAFETY UPDATES - Fire and Police]
UPDATES.JUST EXPANDING, UM, ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
UM, WE ARE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT, UH, COMMU, UH, EXCUSE ME, CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION 68, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR WILDLAND AREAS IS PROGRESSING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROACHING THE END OF THE GRADING PHASE OF THE PROJECT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF MY REPORT THIS EVENING.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, CHIEF GERARD, THANK YOU.
AND GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND RESIDENTS.
UH, THIS EVENING I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.
ALRIGHT, CITY MANAGER UPDATES.
[ CITY MANAGER UPDATES]
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH FROM ME.I'M GONNA DEFER MY TIME TO, UH, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND CITY ENGINEER, UH, DANIEL VIDIA FOR A UPDATE.
ALRIGHT, DANIEL, THANK YOU BEN.
UM, COUNCIL, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, UH, COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION ON A RECYCLED WATER LINE ALONG EUCALYPTUS AVENUE FROM, UH, APPROXIMATELY PEYTON, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UM, CHINOS PARKWAY AND THROUGH, UH, UP TO VETERANS PARK.
AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, THERE WAS A COMPONENT THAT, UM, UH, HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED AND THAT IS A NEW PEDESTRIAN SIGNAL, UM, AT GALLOPING HILLS.
UM, PART OF THE DELAY WAS WORKING WITH EDISON TO ENERGIZE OR PROVIDE A SERVICE PEDESTAL AND ENERGIZE THAT SERVICE PEDESTAL.
UH, THAT WORK WAS COMPLETED LAST WEEK.
UH, RECENTLY THE CONTRACTOR CAME BACK.
UH, THEY HAVE, UM, INSTALLED THE, UH, THE POLES FOR THAT SIGNAL.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE, UH, OR AN UPDATED COMPLETION DATE, UH, BUT WE DO EXPECT THEM TO CONTINUE WORK, UM, THIS WEEK.
UH, WE DO EXPECT SOME RAIN LATER ON THIS WEEK, SO THAT MIGHT DELAY THEM A LITTLE BIT.
UH, BUT WE DO, UM, WE ARE EXPECTING THEM TO COMPLETE THE, THAT WORK AND GET THAT SIGNAL OPERATIONAL BY, UH, BY THE END OF, UH, BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK HOPEFULLY.
AND WE GOT YOUR REPORT THAT THAT RAIN IS EXPECTED FRIDAY, SATURDAY, UH, THROUGH A MONDAY, I BELIEVE YOU SAID IN YOUR THAT'S CORRECT.
WE EXPECT, UH, HEAVY RAINS FRIDAY, SATURDAY WITH, UH, LINGERING SHOWERS, UH, THROUGH, UH, THROUGH MONDAY WITH ABOUT TWO INCHES OF OVERALL PRECIPITATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF DANIEL? YES.
SPEAKING OF RECYCLED WATER, DANIEL, IT'S NOT ON THAT PROJECT, BUT THE OTHER PROJECT WAS TAKING PLACE CONCURRENTLY, THAT'S ENGLISH ROAD.
HAVE ANY OF THE RESIDENTS TAKEN US UP ON THE OFFER, ALTHOUGH THEY'D HAVE TO PAY A PORTION OF IT TO TAP INTO THE RECYCLED WATER, TO, TO WATER THEIR RANCHES AND THEIR CORRALS, ET CETERA? WE, WE'VE RECEIVED SOME, UH, INQUIRIES FROM RESIDENTS.
UH, NONE OF THEM HAVE OFFICIALLY SIGNED UP, UH, TO TAP INTO THAT SYSTEM.
HOWEVER, WE SOLD OUR, UH, UH, COMPLETING SOME WORK, UH, ON THAT PROJECT.
SO ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO COMPLETION, WE WILL REACH OUT TO OTHER RESIDENTS AGAIN, UM, AND, UH, PROVIDE THEM WITH ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND BE ABLE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
UM, THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTS IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING FROM POTABLE WATER TO RECYCLED WATER.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, NUANCES THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THE USE OF RECYCLED WATER.
SO OUR JOB IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT INFORMATION AND, AND GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PROCESS.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD ESTIMATE THEIR CHANGEOVER IF IN THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING TO RECYCLED VERSUS POTABLE TO WHERE WE COULD LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE MISSING IN THE WAY OF SAVINGS BY NOT HOOKING UP THE RECYCLED 'CAUSE? MAYBE THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH MOTIVATION TO GET THEM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YEAH, WE'RE ALWAYS IN A DROUGHT IN CALIFORNIA AND ANYTIME WE CAN CON UH, CHANGE OVER FROM POTABLE WATER TO RECYCLE, THAT JUST INCLU OR INCREASES THE ACRE FOOT OF POTABLE THAT WE HAVE FOR OTHER
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DRINKING, ET CETERA, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.SO IT'S, IT'S VERY HELPFUL WHEN THEY GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAYBE SHOW THEM MONETARILY WHAT IT WOULD SAVE THEM BY DOING THAT, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS TO THEM.
[ COUNCIL REPORTS Vice Mayor Johsz Omnitrans Board Council Member Marquez San Bernardino County Transportation Authority Board General Policy Committee Legislative Policy Committee Council Member Rogers Chino Basin Desalter Authority Board]
UH, BRIAN, YOU HAVE ANY BOARDS? UH, YEAH.UH, AT OUR LAST OMNI TRANS BOARD MEETING, WE HONORED THE, SOME OF OUR DRIVERS FOR THEIR SERVICE.
AND THEN THE ONE MAJOR ITEM THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STATE'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION OR, UH, MANDATE FOR ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES.
AND WE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT, UH, THE, THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE IN TERMS OF COST AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND BASICALLY WE ARE GONNA BE STICKING WITH C AND G FOR NOW 'CAUSE IT, IT FITS THAT NEED.
AND HYDROGEN AND ALL ELECTRIC ARE A LITTLE BIT TOO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS SEEING, UH, CUTS IN RIDERSHIP AND FUNDING.
UH, SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, UH, I GUESS THE BITS CAME IN REGARDING THE TUNNEL PROJECT FROM, UH, RANCH CUCAMONGA TO ONTARIO AIRPORT.
IT'S IN EXCESS OF A BILLION DOLLARS SO DRASTICALLY IT WENT UP.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
UH, THE BRAKES PROBABLY ARE GONNA, UH, HAPPEN WITH THAT ONE PROJECT.
ALSO, WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICE.
UH, THEY GAVE A PRESENTATION AND THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF GOOD SERVICES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD MAYBE REACH OUT TO 'EM AND MAYBE EITHER A COMMISSION OR MAYBE A COUNCIL MEETING THAT THEY CAN TELL US WHAT THEY HAVE, HAVE TO OFFER, BUT THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE OUR CITY.
SO THAT'S, UH, WITH THE BOARD MEETING, THE GENERAL POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING, THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING TO REPORT.
THE LEGISLATIVE, UH, POLICY COMMITTEE, WE GOT A FEDERAL UPDATE AND THE US SECRETARY TRANSPORTATION DUFFY, UM, BASICALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S GONNA BE PULLING SOME MONEY FROM THE STATE REGARDING THE BULLET TRAIN AND THEN MONEY MIGHT BE ALLOCATED TO THE BRIGHT LINE PROJECT.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROGERS? YES, THANK YOU.
UH, THE CHINO BASIN DE SALTER AUTHORITY OR CDA, THAT'S ONE OF OUR WATER PROVIDERS.
AND CDA, THE BOARD MEETING TURNED OUT TO BE A WORKSHOP ONLY, SO THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC BUSINESS CONDUCTED.
SO I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT ALL.
[ COUNCIL COMMENTS]
REPORTS.CYNTHIA, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.
UM, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS WORKED TOGETHER TO DO OUR VETERANS BREAKFAST.
SO, UM, MR. MAYOR, IT WAS A GREAT BREAKFAST, UM, FOR THE VETERANS JONATHAN'S GROUP.
VALERIE'S, I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WORKED TOGETHER AND IT WAS, IT WAS WONDERFUL.
UM, AND JUST A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT, BOYS REPUBLIC IS HAVING THEIR THANKSGIVING BAKE SALE.
SO, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT SEE WHAT THEY SELL AT THE FARMER'S MARKET, THEY JUST STEP IT UP ONE MORE AND THEY HAVE SO MANY THINGS.
THEY'RE SELLING THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, AND ACTUALLY ON THANKSGIVING DAY UP UNTIL NOON, UM, ON CAMPUS AT THE BISTRO.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT 'CAUSE PEOPLE ASK HOW THEY CAN BUY STUFF FOR THANKSGIVING.
FIRST OF ALL, I DID ATTEND A MEMORIAL FOR CODY, JEN, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
AND, UH, CODY, WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU.
JOANNE, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION.
UM, I DID ATTEND THE ORANGE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY MEETING, AND THEN I DID ATTEND A LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND, UM, I DIDN'T GET TO GO TO THE VETERANS, UH, UM, MEMORIAL OR THE, THE, THE EVENT THAT WE HAD.
I HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, THE FIRE CHIEF AND I HAVE A HYDROGEN VEHICLE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAD 190 MILES AND THEN, UH, AS I WAS COMING ALL MY WENT DOWN TO 24.
SO I THINK I HAD A LEAK WITH MY HYDROGEN, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO DRIVE IT ANYMORE.
SO I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE A VEHICLE AND I APOLOGIZED, MR. MAYOR, I'M, I'M NORMALLY THERE, BUT I COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS TIME.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOU NOT COMING OFF AND BLOWING UP OUR EVENT.
I WOULD'VE, WITH MY LUCK, I WOULD'VE BLOWN UP.
SO DID YOU RUN OUT? DID YOU RUN OUT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, NO.
I WAS AFRAID I WAS A SCARED CAP.
ONE, I WANT TO DO A SPEAKING OF WATER, DO A LITTLE REPORT ON.
METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR PROVIDERS AND ONE OF THE AGENCIES WE'RE PARTNERED WITH IS CALLED WFA OR WATER FACILITIES AUTHORITY, ONE OF FIVE AGENCIES THAT HAVE BOUGHT IN YEARS AGO TO THIS WATER PLANT IN, UH, UPLAND.
SO THAT'S THE STATE WATER THAT COMES DOWN THROUGH THE STATE AND, AND IT'S PROCESSED AND, AND, UM, THEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE FIVE MEMBER AGENCIES.
METROPOLITAN WATER DECIDES WHAT COST WILL BE
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FOR THAT YEAR FOR AN ACRE FOOT OF WATER, WHICH IS THEN REFLECTED TO THE MEMBER AGENCIES.WHEN I WENT ON THESE BOARDS YEARS AGO, WE WERE AROUND $450 OR SO PER ACRE FOOT.
THIS YEAR, 20 20 25, WE'RE AT $912 PER ACRE FOOT.
AND STARTING THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, IT'S GONNA BE $984.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, MANY TIMES WHEN PEOPLE SAY, HOW CAN THE CITY KEEP RAISING THE RATES? IT'S JUST, WE'RE REFLECTING THE COSTS THAT ARE, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO PAY PLUS PROCESSING FEES, ET CETERA, FOR WATER RATES.
AND, UH, THE STATE WATER IS PROBABLY THE MOST WATER, ISN'T IT, DANIEL, THAT WE USE AMONG THE PORTFOLIO OF WATER THAT WE CAN DRAW FROM.
THE WFA IS ALONG WITH METROPOLITAN WATER, OR YEAH, MONTE VISTA WATER RATHER REFLECTS THOSE COSTS.
SO IT'S GOING UP TO $984 AN ACRE FOOT FROM 912.
BUT AGAIN, YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED ON THESE BOARDS, IT WAS 400 AND CHANGE.
SO THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY WATER IS EXPENSIVE, BUT WE HAVEN'T PASSED ON FOR HOW MANY YEARS BEEN A, A RATE INCREASE, EVEN THOUGH WE COULD HAVE, ARE WE IN OUR THIRD YEAR? YEAH.
WE'VE HAD NO INCREASES TO OUR RESIDENTS, UH, WA WATER RATES FOR THREE YEARS AGO, EVEN THOUGH WE VOTED ON A FIVE YEAR PLAN, UH, FIVE YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO.
SO THERE THAT TOOK PLACE, ATTENDED THE VETERANS, UH, EVENT ALSO.
AND THE VETERANS, UH, I HAD BREAKFAST ALSO WITH MANY OF 'EM, AND THEY WERE SO APPRECIATIVE OF HOW WELL DONE AND HOW IT'S EVOLVED OVER THE YEARS INTO WHAT IT IS NOW.
IT'S SIMPLE AND YET REFLECTIVE OF OUR VALUES IN CHINO HILLS AND, AND HOW PROUD WE ARE OF THE VETERANS THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUTSIDE, JUST OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, SO IT WAS A WONDERFUL EVENT AND THE BREAKFAST WAS GREAT ALSO.
UH, DON'T FORGET BRIAN, BY THE WAY.
THANK YOU FOR NOT FORGETTING ME.
UM, YES, APOLOGIES AS WELL FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND OUR VETERAN CEREMONY.
I AM TRAVELING FOR WORK AND WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO VISIT, THEY HAD A CEREMONY AT THE AMERICAN MEMORIAL PARK HERE ON SAIPAN TO HONOR, UH, HONOR THE, UH, THE ARMY AND THE MARINE CORPS, UH, UH, LOSSES THAT WE HAD DURING THAT BATTLE.
SO IT'S A NICE, IT WAS A, A BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY.
SO I, I FELT LIKE I WAS BACK HOME.
UM, WITH THAT, JUST, UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ACCOMMODATING ME, UH, BEING, UH, BEING ABLE TO CALL IN.
I CAN TELL YOU IT'S TWO O'CLOCK ON THURSDAY HERE.
SO, UH, THE WEATHER'S NICE, SO THANK YOU,
ALL RIGHTY, BRIAN, YOU TRAVEL SAFE? UH, YES.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO YESTERDAY'S,
[ ADJOURN IN MEMORIAM AND IN HOPE: Adjourn with deep gratitude, respect, and appreciation for the brave individuals who serve and have served in the Armed Forces. Their selfless contributions protect us all. May we as a community continue to support and honor them.]
UH, VETERAN'S BREAKFAST, UH, THANK YOU TO JONATHAN, ALL OF YOUR STAFF.NICOLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A SCRIPT THAT WAS SO MEANINGFUL AND, UH, UH, I, I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT IN MY OWN WORDS, NEARLY AS SUCCINCT AND, AND BEAUTIFUL AS YOU.
YOU DID THAT FOR ME, SO I DO APPRECIATE IT.
UH, TONIGHT, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, RATHER THAN ADJOURN IN THE NORMAL FASHION, UH, BE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT YESTERDAY WAS VETERAN'S DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THIS POEM.
IT'S CALLED LEAST OR LESS WE FORGET.
IT IS THE MILITARY VETERAN, NOT THE POET WHO HAS GIVEN US FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
IT'S THE MILITARY VETERAN, NOT THE PREACHER WHO HAS GIVEN US FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
IT'S THE MILITARY VETERAN, NOT THE REPORTER WHO HAS GIVEN US FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.
IT'S THE MILITARY VETERAN, NOT THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER THAT HAS GIVEN US FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY.
IT IS NOT, IT IS THE MILITARY VETERAN, NOT THE POLITICIAN WHO HAS GIVEN US THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
IT'S THE MILITARY VETERAN, NOT THE LAWYER WHO HAS GIVEN US THE RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL.
IT'S THE MILITARY VETERAN WHO SALUTES THE AMERICAN FLAG.
IT'S THE MILITARY VETERAN WHO SERVES UNDER THE AMERICAN FLAG, AND IT IS THE AMERICAN VETERANS COFFIN THAT IS DRAPED WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG, THEREBY ENSU, ENSURING A RIGHT OF LIBERTY, EXCUSE ME, LIFE, LIBERTY, AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
AT LEAST WE FORGET ALL, GAVE SOME, SOME GAVE ALL, AND WITHOUT.